Undine continuity

jarenkincaid

So, after the Academy mission series, you have Diplomatic Orders, in which mission you have to collect the Vulcan diplomat using a shuttle because, as it turns out, he's an Undine (Species 8472) imposter, and so can't risk being identified as such by the transporter pattern buffer. OK... so how come when you beam off the Dyson sphere with Doctor Eric Cooper in A Step Between Stars, he ISN'T identified as an Undine infiltrator?

naabal421

Plot hole, or they got better at disguising themselves so that didn't work?

Didn't we beam Cooper off of the escape pods in "Fluid Dynamics" mission, and we didn't catch it there either?

legendarylycan

Maybe the one impersonating Sokketh didn't think to use their psionic abilities to manipulate the minds of the transporter operators so any odd readings would've been ignored and subsequently erased by them and the one impersonating Cooper did...or maybe the former COULDN'T, since they were Vulcans. The Undine are psionically strong, but not that strong, despite their claims to the contrary, and other psionically gifted races might be able to resist any attempts at manipulation enough that such a move wouldn't work.​​

thay8472

Didn't they find the body of the real Vulcan as we arrived at P'Jem?

saurializard

jarenkincaid wrote: »

So, after the Academy mission series, you have Diplomatic Orders, in which mission you have to collect the Vulcan diplomat using a shuttle because, as it turns out, he's an Undine (Species 8472) imposter, and so can't risk being identified as such by the transporter pattern buffer. OK... so how come when you beam off the Dyson sphere with Doctor Eric Cooper in A Step Between Stars, he ISN'T identified as an Undine infiltrator?

It's not actually confirmed Undine can be detected with the transporter pattern buffer and in the same mission, when the impostor does beam down, the officer warning you doesn't say it detected Undine DNA or whatever they have, just that the ambassador beamed down.

My first guess is this Undine avoided transporters because he thought they might compromise him, but transporters actually can't spot them. He just took too many precautions for nothing and didn't get the memo.

My other related guess is at first Undine were supposed to be spotted with transporters but Cryptic either forgot or decided it'd bring too many questions about how Undine would manage to infiltrate 2 quadrants who use transporters all the time.

vetteguy904

well, as long as cooper was on the station, he had plenty of time to override the detection systems in the transporter, he sorta made an ID saying he was 21 when he was 15 to get into the bar