@garaffe you using a normal Plasma or the Hyper Plasma?
All manner of plasma torp: hyper, omega, particle emission, big red, little red, you name it.
@garaffe
In that case, TS all the way. Plasma Torpedo high Yield is a slow target-able torpedo.
Only the 23c plasma torpedo and the altamid (i think) torpedo avoid the targetable torpedo trap on high Yield.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
@garaffe you using a normal Plasma or the Hyper Plasma?
All manner of plasma torp: hyper, omega, particle emission, big red, little red, you name it.
@garaffe
In that case, TS all the way. Plasma Torpedo high Yield is a slow target-able torpedo.
Only the 23c plasma torpedo and the altamid (i think) torpedo avoid the targetable torpedo trap on high Yield.
This is a very specialized build that include the temp HP for torps, temp immunity for torps, increased flight speed, and increased defense rating for plasma torps. It does just fine and hits BIG.
Each torpedo have special modes that are exclusively enabled by each skill differently, MKI and MKIII also make differences, sometimes MK I is actually better, sometime high yield does better AoE damage. You need to be extra specific, like what torp you use and want you want to achieve with it.
In what situation would a TS/HY 1 be better than TS/HY 3?
Tbh I think spread looks better, especially at Ensign level, so I just go with that. I'm not trying to top the DPS charts so that's good enough for me.
Generally speaking spread is better for most builds in most situations. On an DEW build you’ll usually benefit from hitting as many targets as possible. On an anomaly build with plasma or gravimetric torps you mostly care about the plasma cloud or rift which is always triggered by either spread or high yield but spread will trigger multiples.
I’d only tend to use high yield on a build specifically and deliberately intended for single target DPS.
@garaffe you using a normal Plasma or the Hyper Plasma?
All manner of plasma torp: hyper, omega, particle emission, big red, little red, you name it.
@garaffe
In that case, TS all the way. Plasma Torpedo high Yield is a slow target-able torpedo.
Only the 23c plasma torpedo and the altamid (i think) torpedo avoid the targetable torpedo trap on high Yield.
This is a very specialized build that include the temp HP for torps, temp immunity for torps, increased flight speed, and increased defense rating for plasma torps. It does just fine and hits BIG.
I know the build and it can be lots of fun, but if you're aiming to increase your damage output then TS is far superior to HY for plasma torpedoes.
Instead of covering for the weakness of the HY plasma torpedo you can boost TS with a command primary.
The HY plasma build with temporal etc can work in normal/advanced content, but higher numbers can be achieved through TS with command primary.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
Each torpedo have special modes that are exclusively enabled by each skill differently, MKI and MKIII also make differences, sometimes MK I is actually better, sometime high yield does better AoE damage. You need to be extra specific, like what torp you use and want you want to achieve with it.
In what situation would a TS/HY 1 be better than TS/HY 3?
It is only better when you can do something better with a LTC slot, usually BO 3 or FAW 3.
I usually go with Spread. Simply because I think it looks better; I like throwing out many torpedoes in all directions at once on my dedicated torp boats.
And on most maps there is usually more than one target, so it also helps with destroying multiple smaller targets quickly without having to focus fire on them.
Generally speaking spread is better for most builds in most situations. On an DEW build you’ll usually benefit from hitting as many targets as possible. On an anomaly build with plasma or gravimetric torps you mostly care about the plasma cloud or rift which is always triggered by either spread or high yield but spread will trigger multiples.
I’d only tend to use high yield on a build specifically and deliberately intended for single target DPS.
Good answer. And you're right about the plasma cloud. On my megawell builds the PEP torpedo always has its plasma cloud near the top of the CLR report.
@garaffe you using a normal Plasma or the Hyper Plasma?
All manner of plasma torp: hyper, omega, particle emission, big red, little red, you name it.
@garaffe
In that case, TS all the way. Plasma Torpedo high Yield is a slow target-able torpedo.
Only the 23c plasma torpedo and the altamid (i think) torpedo avoid the targetable torpedo trap on high Yield.
This is a very specialized build that include the temp HP for torps, temp immunity for torps, increased flight speed, and increased defense rating for plasma torps. It does just fine and hits BIG.
I know the build and it can be lots of fun, but if you're aiming to increase your damage output then TS is far superior to HY for plasma torpedoes.
Instead of covering for the weakness of the HY plasma torpedo you can boost TS with a command primary.
The HY plasma build with temporal etc can work in normal/advanced content, but higher numbers can be achieved through TS with command primary.
I've experienced the opposite command is basically a pointless tree for dedicated torp boats, even command power concentrate firepower isn't overly useful as stuff dies too quick. HY 3 with plasmas and grav well is hits the aoe quite well by themselves. But this is from a science+plasma torp build, if your going with any other torps TS3 is better.
I usually go with Spread..... on most maps there is usually more than one target, so it also helps with destroying multiple smaller targets quickly without having to focus fire on them.
This was my point. Spread is usually more useful because in most situations, you're faced with multiple small to medium size targets, not one big one. High Yield is meant for one large target, and yes on paper might result in more DPS, but how often are you in that situation?
Its not just meant for one large target. Its also meant for large AoE and so if you shoot it into a grav well or other groups of targets you can do more damage to multiple ships then you can with Spread.
Spread is just that its for targets that are spread out. High Yield is for single targets or grouped up targets. Given how common grav well is in TFO's I find High Yield provides better muti target damage. Though it does depend on what base torpedo we are talking about. I find AoE from High Yield often kills those multiple smaller targets faster.
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@garaffe
In that case, TS all the way. Plasma Torpedo high Yield is a slow target-able torpedo.
Only the 23c plasma torpedo and the altamid (i think) torpedo avoid the targetable torpedo trap on high Yield.
This is a very specialized build that include the temp HP for torps, temp immunity for torps, increased flight speed, and increased defense rating for plasma torps. It does just fine and hits BIG.
In what situation would a TS/HY 1 be better than TS/HY 3?
I’d only tend to use high yield on a build specifically and deliberately intended for single target DPS.
I know the build and it can be lots of fun, but if you're aiming to increase your damage output then TS is far superior to HY for plasma torpedoes.
Instead of covering for the weakness of the HY plasma torpedo you can boost TS with a command primary.
The HY plasma build with temporal etc can work in normal/advanced content, but higher numbers can be achieved through TS with command primary.
It is only better when you can do something better with a LTC slot, usually BO 3 or FAW 3.
And on most maps there is usually more than one target, so it also helps with destroying multiple smaller targets quickly without having to focus fire on them.
Good answer. And you're right about the plasma cloud. On my megawell builds the PEP torpedo always has its plasma cloud near the top of the CLR report.
Spread is just that its for targets that are spread out. High Yield is for single targets or grouped up targets. Given how common grav well is in TFO's I find High Yield provides better muti target damage. Though it does depend on what base torpedo we are talking about. I find AoE from High Yield often kills those multiple smaller targets faster.