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therealblackkaostherealblackkaos Member Posts: 121 Arc User
Is the new “Legendary” criteria going to be the “new normal”? Will we get more Legendary versions of ships, and if so, which ones? Anyone looking forward to Legendary versions of their favorite ships? If so, what ships would you recommend get the Legendary status?
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    therealblackkaostherealblackkaos Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    > @somtaawkhar said:
    > Cryptic has previously stated there are no plans to make all, or even most, ships into Legendary ships. And their criteria for Legendary is usually based around it being a famous ship, or a ship that carried an episode.
    >
    > Hence all the hero ships from the shows, the various Enterprises, and some major alien ones like the Romulan TOS BoP, or the main Klingon ships.

    Thanks for the info. I was just curious as to what the criteria was. Personally, I’d love for them to either make more than just the “famous” ships Legendary. If not, at least allow more customization. I wish they’d allow more or customizable ships weapon slotting. If I could turn my 4/3 into a 5/2 would work wonders from a pinch standpoint. Or add a experimental weapon slot in lieu of a weapon slot. But I’m sure that’s a coding nightmare to tackle but one can dream.....
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,355 Arc User
    > @somtaawkhar said:
    > Cryptic has previously stated there are no plans to make all, or even most, ships into Legendary ships. And their criteria for Legendary is usually based around it being a famous ship, or a ship that carried an episode.
    >
    > Hence all the hero ships from the shows, the various Enterprises, and some major alien ones like the Romulan TOS BoP, or the main Klingon ships.

    Thanks for the info. I was just curious as to what the criteria was. Personally, I’d love for them to either make more than just the “famous” ships Legendary. If not, at least allow more customization. I wish they’d allow more or customizable ships weapon slotting. If I could turn my 4/3 into a 5/2 would work wonders from a pinch standpoint. Or add a experimental weapon slot in lieu of a weapon slot. But I’m sure that’s a coding nightmare to tackle but one can dream.....

    Allwing for the addition or reformatting of weapons slots would almost remove the need to buy ships, and there's option enough to make a 4/3 into an effective 8/3, so it's not really necessary.
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    therealblackkaostherealblackkaos Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    > @leemwatson said:
    > Allwing for the addition or reformatting of weapons slots would almost remove the need to buy ships, and there's option enough to make a 4/3 into an effective 8/3, so it's not really necessary.

    Really? How is that possible?
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    thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,165 Arc User
    Is the new “Legendary” criteria going to be the “new normal”?

    Probably so, yes. Many countries are discussing moves against gambling mechanics in video games, and while it may still be years before it ever effects this game, I think Cryptic is experimenting with alternate ways to appeal to the same whales that currently support the game through lockboxes. Regular releases of massively priced 'legendary' bundles will probably be one of those ways.

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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,070 Community Moderator

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.
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    doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,195 Arc User
    Is the new “Legendary” criteria going to be the “new normal”? Will we get more Legendary versions of ships, and if so, which ones? Anyone looking forward to Legendary versions of their favorite ships? If so, what ships would you recommend get the Legendary status?

    It's a sales gimmick to avoid to use the Term T7 ship it is that simple. It works and that all there is to it.

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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.

    Pfft - the KCB is a complete waste of time. Just about anything would be better in the slot that deadweight excuse for a weapon would occupy.

    I still have a fond memory for it. Wasn't it along with another or two other pieces that created that Borg tractor-beam & if you timed it well it would do extra damage? Might be remembering it incorrectly. I mostly just go turrets in the aft nowadays anyways unless broad-siding.
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.

    There are no 'secret' builds.. all the builds that people think are some big secret held only by a select few are actually published on web sites with build advice for anyone to use anytime they want.

    And @reyan01 is right, the KCB is awful. :lol:
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    therealblackkaostherealblackkaos Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    > @rattler2 said:
    > For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    > For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    Every time I ask a question I end up learning something new. Thanks for the tip!





    > @reyan01 said:
    > Agreed - and 'Mudds' seems as if it's another way.


    If that’s the case, then there’s a good chance that they will make more Legendary ships to float the market. If they do, I hope that they at least make them interesting enough to buy and use. Most of the ships in the C-store don’t interest me in one bit except for the Jem’hadar ones but I’m grinding for the pack for that one. I use my Temporal Cross faction Dreadnought for all my alts since it works for me. May grab the T6 Flagship cross faction bundle at some point unless they plan on making a Legendary bundle for them as well. Part of the reason for asking is I don’t want to “invest” in a T6 if there’s the chance of a “upgrade” on the horizon. But I do love and appreciate the insights from the community!
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    peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited February 2021

    There are no 'secret' builds.. all the builds that people think are some big secret held only by a select few are actually published on web sites with build advice for anyone to use anytime they want.

    You have no idea as you still do not belong to the inner circle yet. Neela sold her very soul for a low raking position there! The black forge, the dark fleet called Naeramarth of the secret Armada Set Sail for Fail. So many secrets are kept, so many strings are still pulled by diabolic DPSer long gone. >:)

    The path for DPS Diamond is laid out for years in advanced to have players purposely go for wrong items and leave them deliberately clouded towards every meta shift that awaits us.

    It is so hard to live with it for just a few K of DPS more, but hey, Neela obviously can! :D
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    You have no idea as you still do not belong to the inner circle yet. Neela sold her very soul for a low raking position there!

    If Neela is already there, I don't want in anyway. :lol:
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    jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    You have no idea as you still do not belong to the inner circle yet. Neela sold her very soul for a low raking position there!

    If Neela is already there, I don't want in anyway. :lol:

    You're just jealous she beat you there :p
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,355 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.

    Pfft - the KCB is a complete waste of time. Just about anything would be better in the slot that deadweight excuse for a weapon would occupy.

    The KCB isn't a waste of time. Using the Quantum Phase Torp (and Tac Beam, even without the Torp) instantly makes KCB powerful and potent, and if you are, like most, using Lorca's Console, the Shield Pen alone bumps it's effectiveness.
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    You're just jealous she beat you there :p

    Yeah.. truth hurts. :lol:
    leemwatson wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.

    Pfft - the KCB is a complete waste of time. Just about anything would be better in the slot that deadweight excuse for a weapon would occupy.

    The KCB isn't a waste of time. Using the Quantum Phase Torp (and Tac Beam, even without the Torp) instantly makes KCB powerful and potent, and if you are, like most, using Lorca's Console, the Shield Pen alone bumps it's effectiveness.

    The Quantum Phase Torp does nothing directly for the KCB. By 'Tac Beam' if you mean the set bonus 'Quantum Destabilizing Beam' that also does nothing for the KCB.

    Nothing helps the KCB.. it's arguably the worst weapon in the game. It's only function is if you have 3 aft slots in a Dual Beam Build and even then you would still do better just putting a turret back there. At least that would be boosted by your tac consoles and + Phaser (or whatever) consoles.

    It could have a use on a pure kinetic build, but it makes no sense on a standard energy build.

    The KCB is terrible.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,355 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.

    Pfft - the KCB is a complete waste of time. Just about anything would be better in the slot that deadweight excuse for a weapon would occupy.

    The KCB isn't a waste of time. Using the Quantum Phase Torp (and Tac Beam, even without the Torp) instantly makes KCB powerful and potent, and if you are, like most, using Lorca's Console, the Shield Pen alone bumps it's effectiveness.

    The Quantum Phase Torp does nothing directly for the KCB. By 'Tac Beam' if you mean the set bonus 'Quantum Destabilizing Beam' that also does nothing for the KCB.

    Nothing helps the KCB.. it's arguably the worst weapon in the game. It's only function is if you have 3 aft slots in a Dual Beam Build and even then you would still do better just putting a turret back there. At least that would be boosted by your tac consoles and + Phaser (or whatever) consoles.

    The KCB is terrible.

    The torp does. It strips shields.
    The Tachyon Beam does. It also strips shields.
    And since you mention it, the QDB actually would as it will take down the shields and resistances of almost every NPC ingame.

    My Sci runs this, and I see the KCB as great value in a Sci ship, especially when running a full Assimilated set.
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    leemwatson wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »

    Really? How is that possible?

    For a Cannon build... Turrets in the back. 360 arc.
    For a beam build... 1 Crafted Omni, 1 Rep/Mission Omni, and 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam in the back. 360 arc.

    SHHH that build recipe is suppose to be a secret.

    Pfft - the KCB is a complete waste of time. Just about anything would be better in the slot that deadweight excuse for a weapon would occupy.

    The KCB isn't a waste of time. Using the Quantum Phase Torp (and Tac Beam, even without the Torp) instantly makes KCB powerful and potent, and if you are, like most, using Lorca's Console, the Shield Pen alone bumps it's effectiveness.

    The Quantum Phase Torp does nothing directly for the KCB. By 'Tac Beam' if you mean the set bonus 'Quantum Destabilizing Beam' that also does nothing for the KCB.

    Nothing helps the KCB.. it's arguably the worst weapon in the game. It's only function is if you have 3 aft slots in a Dual Beam Build and even then you would still do better just putting a turret back there. At least that would be boosted by your tac consoles and + Phaser (or whatever) consoles.

    The KCB is terrible.

    The torp does. It strips shields.
    The Tachyon Beam does. It also strips shields.
    And since you mention it, the QDB actually would as it will take down the shields and resistances of almost every NPC ingame.

    My Sci runs this, and I see the KCB as great value in a Sci ship, especially when running a full Assimilated set.

    Alright man.. if you say it works for you then great.

    I won't touch it, even against unshielded it's damage is next to none. :lol:
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    peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    Main problem with the cutting beam is that it does not get buffed by many (oh, if any?) stuff you can slot. The more stuff we can slot (and its getting more and more) the further it will be left behind.

    Reason why the cutter was on DPS builds for so long (well up to 2015 I think) was the 2-piece bonus with the assimilated module having a good impact on weapon’s energy levels. Nowadays that is being take care of via traits & aux2bat for the most part.

    Even on DBB ships I’d look out for a turret or other set pieces for the third aft slot to fill. Especially the boff power Mixed Armaments Synergy shines with a single turret and its already available at a Lt. boff ability on more and more ships.

    The Assimilated Module on the other hand is still a very prudent option today when lobi or past event ship gear is not available.

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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Sounds like that Kinetic Cutting Beam would gets boosts from normal sources like most other items do it would be in a more viable consideration.
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