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Wait...what? No, don't tell me Omega mission was bugged!

tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
edited August 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
From today's patch notes:
Resolved an issue that was causing the Omega Molecule Stabilization to list all 20 locations.

I vote to leave in the bug! :p
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    It was nice, once you figured out a good path, to be able to do that good path every time. Now it'll go back to giving some of the tedious sets (anything involving DS9 or Bajor, for instance). Ah, well.


    Which reminds me of my other issue with the game this year - is there any way to call Q remotely to get the quest, like we used to be able to, or do you have to teleport back to ESD/Qo'nos every time?
  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    kiralyn wrote: »
    It was nice, once you figured out a good path, to be able to do that good path every time. Now it'll go back to giving some of the tedious sets (anything involving DS9 or Bajor, for instance). Ah, well.


    Which reminds me of my other issue with the game this year - is there any way to call Q remotely to get the quest, like we used to be able to, or do you have to teleport back to ESD/Qo'nos every time?

    You can, it just takes a few clicks.

    On the Overview page of the Journal, click Info under the 11th anniversary event window. Then click Hail to talk to Q, then "Tell me about the anniversary".
  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps
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    Admittedly, it did teach me all the places I could go to Farm them after. But it was overwhelming for many people. I can see why the change.
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  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    eladonwarps#6040 wrote: »
    Admittedly, it did teach me all the places I could go to Farm them after. But it was overwhelming for many people. I can see why the change.

    The only change it needed was a line in the text saying you only had to complete 3 of the locations.
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  • nathairxnathairx Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    Wow, this was (what I thought) probably the best Quality of Life change to the anniversary event in my opinion...
  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    I almost thought I was going to go the whole event without being forced to hunt the omega particle on Andoria.

    Whew. Glad THAT oversight is now fixed! :p
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    Sigh. Cryptic, you accidentally made things better instead of forcing us to transwarp to the other quadrant and often do a long warp slog cross-map.

    You stumbled onto a nice improvement to the event, why couldn't you just pretend it was intentional?
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,688 Community Moderator
    While it was nice... odds are the reason they have particles in some places is to give people incentive to visit them. Although I personally wish Andoria wasn't a case of "Run across the map only to get there as the particle fades, and have to run all the way back to the new one".
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While it was nice... odds are the reason they have particles in some places is to give people incentive to visit them. Although I personally wish Andoria wasn't a case of "Run across the map only to get there as the particle fades, and have to run all the way back to the new one".

    That, and it forces new players to get particles in all 3 colors so they learn how to craft the green ones.

    Still for STO Geezers like me this was a nice change :cry:
  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While it was nice... odds are the reason they have particles in some places is to give people incentive to visit them. Although I personally wish Andoria wasn't a case of "Run across the map only to get there as the particle fades, and have to run all the way back to the new one".

    If that is the reason, I'm not sure it is a very good one. If there isn't a reason people want to go to an area (or, there is a reason they don't want to go there), forcing the issue like this isn't likely to engender much positivity toward those areas anyway.

    Now, one reason I can think of they'd want the mission structured like this is so people will, on average, get a mix of blue, red, and yellow to craft with as opposed to all red by staying around ESD/Qo'noS. I can see that, but think the solution is to give that bit of extra info in the mission so people are informed enough to have the choice.
  • victusrhul#9173 victusrhul
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    edited February 2021
    I wished they kept all the locations in. There are new players that don't know there is locations in Alpha quadrant you can go to. Also, they have reduced the amount of spawns for the Red Omega Traces from all the maps? Is Crypted planing on removing omega upgrades all together?
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  • ironman7#2509 ironman7
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    What happened to the choice? I thought that we are all adults and capable to make our own decisions so we can decide whether to stay in one place(/one sector space) rather than running all over the places for it? If the people want to run all over for those, let them. If the people want to do it in one place/one sector space, let them.

    This new update is making omega game more grinding and less fun.

    And for goodness sake - REMOVE that bloody map of Andoria from omega game. It's super annoying and buggy (not to mention that it's hard to see blue omega against blueish environment.).
  • victusrhul#9173 victusrhul
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    ironman7#2509 wrote: »
    What happened to the choice? I thought that we are all adults and capable to make our own decisions so we can decide whether to stay in one place(/one sector space) rather than running all over the places for it? If the people want to run all over for those, let them. If the people want to do it in one place/one sector space, let them.

    This new update is making omega game more grinding and less fun.

    And for goodness sake - REMOVE that bloody map of Andoria from omega game. It's super annoying and buggy (not to mention that it's hard to see blue omega against blueish environment.).

    I agree with Ironman7 totally. Before I could hit the academy, dock and space and be done. Now you have us running all over the place and it's setup picking a planet system but just one location out of that system? Either space or ground? Plus if it's on ground you have one or two traces to FIND if they are not hid under a bridge or in a shrub?

    I know dev's like to make things harder not smarter but this is ridicules

    una Salus Victis
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  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    Another drawback to the "fix" is that now you have bigger groups of people clustered in just a few spots. We already had players complaining about lag in the mini-game, now you deal with crowds and a good chance some lovely person will put up a dance sphere to cause even more issues.

    Did not have that happen once when I could pick where to go.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,688 Community Moderator
    IMO a good compromise would have been to split the listed locations between blue, yellow, and red, then said you had to get one of each. That way you still have to get one of each, but you can actually choose where to go for each one.
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  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    rattler2 wrote: »
    IMO a good compromise would have been to split the listed locations between blue, yellow, and red, then said you had to get one of each. That way you still have to get one of each, but you can actually choose where to go for each one.

    I could live with that, if they can change the quest mechanics to allow for it. I'm not sure it wouldn't break in a new way, though. :p
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    The worst one I've found so far is the one on ESD ground. That minigame lags no matter what I try. The others seem to be fine.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    IMO a good compromise would have been to split the listed locations between blue, yellow, and red, then said you had to get one of each. That way you still have to get one of each, but you can actually choose where to go for each one.

    That would be OK with me. It would teach new players about the three seashells and might still spread out players more to reduce lag.
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,536 Arc User
    Agreed... Give us back the QoL improvement...
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    And I already got used to the convenience.
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  • alexvio1alexvio1 Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    After that fix I will better do single Starbase 1 TFO instead of 2 omega missions.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee
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    I would vote to make the "bug" a feature too. I liked it & just thought it was another stealth QoL improvements Cryptic has been doing a bit at a time.
    rattler2 wrote: »
    IMO a good compromise would have been to split the listed locations between blue, yellow, and red, then said you had to get one of each. That way you still have to get one of each, but you can actually choose where to go for each one.

    That idea has merit.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    They could've just changed the text to tell you you only had to do 3 of the following.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Not at all happy about this "fix" when they make you do it twice to get credit this year.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    foxrockssocks wrote: »
    Not at all happy about this "fix" when they make you do it twice to get credit this year.

    Still less annoying than two Patrols, an STF, or one of those super-long missions. Plus, daily rewards on two characters. I'd likely have done it on multiple characters anyway, just for the Dil and/or other stuff.
  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps
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    My big gripe is that some of the areas are still bugged! Defera Ground was part of my requirements for Q today, and on my KDF Recruit it would not count until I warped all the way back to DS9 for a particle I knew wouldn't count, and came all the way back and did another Particle at Defera

    Before the fix, I could at least be sure the DS9 one would work, too.

    I realize why they did it, especially with how easy it would be for a Fed player to never leave home with having 3 valid locations right by Q (ESD, Starfleet Academy, Sol System).

    I'll probably go back to running one of the unfailable TFOs, and on the weekend finish a few more story missions and save them for mid-week turn ins.
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  • tagentagen Member Posts: 547 Arc User
    eladonwarps#6040 wrote: »
    My big gripe is that some of the areas are still bugged! Defera Ground was part of my requirements for Q today, and on my KDF Recruit it would not count until I warped all the way back to DS9 for a particle I knew wouldn't count, and came all the way back and did another Particle at Defera

    Before the fix, I could at least be sure the DS9 one would work, too.

    I realize why they did it, especially with how easy it would be for a Fed player to never leave home with having 3 valid locations right by Q (ESD, Starfleet Academy, Sol System).

    I'll probably go back to running one of the unfailable TFOs, and on the weekend finish a few more story missions and save them for mid-week turn ins.

    It can't be that they fixed it just for how easy it was to complete by staying in one area. Getting only one color was a big downside to doing that.

    I'd also seen some players asking things like "why am I getting only red?" It makes more sense that it was fixed because of this and they wanted it to go back to pointing to three different colors each day.

    If that is the case, though, I'd rather they add to the text of the mission to provide information on colors and number needed (there was also confusion when players thought they needed to complete the whole list). Maybe the devs will look at the feedback and consider "breaking" this mission again either this year or next.
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