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With all the run modifiers it is no longer competitive.
* Jem on White (+25% Increased Run Speed for 5 min)
* Traits
* Endeavor
* Reputation Gear
* Tribble
* Frosted Boots
* Run Modifier
* Edit: Weekly Project: Combat Performance Boost
On Summer it just depends on the Floater (+Tribble) / Powerboard
* Jem on White (+25% Increased Run Speed for 5 min)
* Traits
* Endeavor
* Reputation Gear
* Tribble
* Frosted Boots
* Run Modifier
* Edit: Weekly Project: Combat Performance Boost
On Summer it just depends on the Floater (+Tribble) / Powerboard
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And I oppose your suggestion. Everyone has equal access to these boosts, with work.
There are a few tribbles
The White Bonus works only on Jem Hadar.
Consumed by non-Jem'Hadar:
-40% All Damage for 1 min
-40% Maximum Hit Points for 1 min
Reduced movement speed for 10 sec
Consumed by Jem'Hadar:
+10% All Damage for 5 min
+20% Max Hit Points for 5 min
+25% Increased Run Speed for 5 min
Empowers Shroud for 3 Hours of Game-Time
Q's Winter Wonderland is accessible to all captains that have completed their tutorial and selected an allegiance.
Therefore all level should have a chance to win. In the first years it was a equal competition.
Perhaps to satisfy everyone, there could be a second race right after the first, one that allows boosts (minus White speed boost), with higher rewards.
the endeavor boost, the Jem boost, and the roll boost are potent.
maybe endeavor is even strongest.
haven't seen any hoppers this year. maybe all these boosts finally top that cheat.
Anyway, I say have at it and boost awaaaayyyyy
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
I just don't see how you can turn things like that off without causing some kind of problem like a bug at best, or just total shutdown of those stats EVERYWHERE at worst.
Its messing with code that is intertwined with so many other things... I personally would not risk it. Besides... you're racing for Epohh Tags. Unless you absolutely MUST have every Epohh variant as soon as possible... is it really necessary to try and nerf things that may have a far broader impact than intended?
Besides... going faster doesn't always mean you win. You're sliding around on ice. Unless you are a master at maneuvering on ice at high speeds, human error is always a factor, and someone who doesn't have those stats can still come out on top because they're not sliding all over the place out of position. Add to that the flag mechanic... its still anyone's race if the guys who get there first can't recover fast enough to spam the interact to get it. And even if they can and someone else takes it, the flag moves forcing them to respond.
For the record, I don't do the PvP race. I got an Epohh. I just don't have the bank space to try and have an Epohh Ranch.
TL;DR version: When dealing with code, if it ain't broke, don't "fix" it. Might just break it worse instead.
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There are many games that use a global effect on endgame raids/dungeons. "Demon Lords Fury" while in the realm of the demon lord defense -25% and health-30%, as an example. Setting a global "run speed=base" or setting a run speed equal to all, could be a "Q condition" on just the map.
Of course your worry of game breaking would still exist because of "Cryptic Programing Magic". It still might be a valid way of addressing the concerns of fairness.
This exactly.
Two more points -
1) Winter Event is sponsored by Q, and Q is all about trickeration.
2) If you're worried about fairness, encourage Cryptic to do something about people jumping over the starting gate before it drops. I am seeing that more and more this year, and that is definitely cheating. Though I must confess it's extra satisfying to beat someone who cheats the start like that. In my observation thus far, they are usually not very skillful racers.
Other than the fleet project (because it requires a fleet leader to load the project, something a player can't directly control) everything else you could obtain and use.
All the stuff that any player can control and use and enable:
Make a Jem
Get the traits and enable them
Focus your Endeavor points and spend them on run speed.
Get more rep gear and use
Get a tribble and use
Get frosted boots and use
Enable any run modifiers (ground weapons, available at vendor trash cost of around 4,000 ECs, have RUN)
If you refuse to use advantages that are available to you, that's a YOU problem not a game problem.
By your logic, all advantages on all contests should be wiped because you can't be bothered to get them and/or use them.
Hard pass, I worked for my stuff, you should work for your stuff too.
All the the OP was asking for fair chance across the board no mater how long you played the game.
It is a "fair chance across the board". I'm pretty sure all the items & abilities that provide a run boost can be earned, not sure since I only have a couple otherwise it is luck with lag &/or skill determining winning & losing the race.
Keep complaining &/or educate yourself about the items & abilities that provide a run boost get motivated & earn them.
This is right up there with the Summer & Winter Event race complainers about: "I really won the race but I didn't click the flag".
Brand new players don't automaticaly get all the items & abilities long-term players have earned over the years & this race is a microcosm of the STO game overall so you can take your self-entitlement & buy a participation trophy with it.
wow grow up the person who feels self entitled is you, someone make a suggestion and you go all out MINE MINE MINE this is supposed to be an event where everyone should be able to compete and enjoy it equally, but take comfort you are the reason new players leave this game, soon you will have it all for yourself
Why because I suggest you could possibly complain less & work more to acquire those run-boosters that are available? By the way it is only "MINE MINE" since I already stated I only use a couple of the run-boosters. Do you comprehend it is a competition? I think it even has "competitive" in the mini-event title so no matter how "equally" you want it, which usually just means you want it placated until you win. I stand by my analogy of that race being a microcosm of the overall game. Everyone can compete & if your enjoyment is predicated on only winning then that is on you. Invest the time to acquire the run-boosters &/or get better at racing. Also, switching instances to a less filled instance for racing works sometimes too.
So... um... what's the point now?
Respectfully, I feel like this whole thing is turning into a debate on what is considered fair, with everyone having different opinions.
One person basically says nerf everyone to the same stats, another says that everyone can obtain the boosts that exist so no nerfs...
IMO its getting to the point where I wouldn't be surprised for calls to nerf all the Risian Hoverboards down to Tier 1 levels so that everyone has a chance to get all the monkey tags because top tier hoverboards are unfair to those who don't have them.
Its turning into a have/have not argument. Which is not going to solve ANYTHING.
foppotee is right in that everyone can get the boosts. The only thing inhibiting someone from doing it is probably a personal drive to do so.
As they say: Where there's a will there's a way. STO doesn't stop one from getting those boosts, so they are fair game for those who did get them. Dumbing down everything to basically brand new player levels, while technically fair for said demographic, is also unfair to those who put in the time and effort to get those things. And unfortunately if Cryptic caves on this... where does it stop? This is a can of worms best left alone.
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The point of the Epohhs is to turn them in for marks, same as you do the monkeys and birds in the Summer Event. Seriously, rattler, you didn't know that?
There's a little thing like a birdbath just to the left of the Epohh Lady as you are facing her. TRIBBLE the stupid epohhs, I'm in it for the marks.
But back to the basic point - character advancement is a central concept of the MMORPG. You invest time and effort, and your character becomes more effective. If you are attacking that, then you have no business playing any MMORPG.
really? why not just give everyone a participation trophy?
I can't run the race to save my soul. I'm not demanding that the game be changed to suit me. I want the ship I grind the fishing or chase Krampiri around.
actually it boils down to what you said early on.. TL;DR Don't FECK with the programming.
If what you are calling "unfair advantages" are the items & abilities providing run-boosts do you realize they're in-game & all of them can be earned by all?