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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    valoreah wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    2020 has certainly been great for corporations. It is getting to the point where science fiction dystopias like Cyberpunk 2077 and similar science fiction stories with Megacorporations are the government are predicting the future. It is startling how much corporations control our lives like Amazon and Google and it is just getting worse.

    While true to an extent, big tech companies only have as much power as the consumers give them. No one needs to buy anything from Amazon, nor do they need to use Facebook or Google. Most people choose to do so. Stop voting for and electing politicians who continually vote to provide more power to these companies.

    Politicians are selected, not elected.


    I think Samuel Clemens once said that if voting was legit, it would be illegal. And given how the MEDIA announced who 'won' the recent election....it's all a TRIBBLE shoot, right now.

    Which is why lots of people regained faith in the US election during 2016. There is no way the establishment would allow someone like the current US President in office if they controlled the election. It is possible that the establishment never thought that the current US President would win and decided to slack off that year.

    However, this is getting too political for these forums.

    The MEDIA said who won. It ain't over yet.

    *Plops on her Trump cap* B) I am for neither side, I just support Donnie.
    The fight continues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Nk323Mnto



    Anyhow, I look foreword to Axanar. The FASA 4 years war is far more interesting to see than what Discovery gave us with the so-called Klingon war.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    I thought Axanar had been cancelled?
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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    Oh boy...

    Hollywood studio acts in its business interests over what is ethically/legally right: "Ugh, what disgusting evil corporatists!"

    Hollywood studio acts in the ethical interest at the expense of its business interests: "Ugh, what hypocrites!"

    #darnedifyoudodarnedifyoudont
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,848 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    valoreah wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    2020 has certainly been great for corporations. It is getting to the point where science fiction dystopias like Cyberpunk 2077 and similar science fiction stories with Megacorporations are the government are predicting the future. It is startling how much corporations control our lives like Amazon and Google and it is just getting worse.

    While true to an extent, big tech companies only have as much power as the consumers give them. No one needs to buy anything from Amazon, nor do they need to use Facebook or Google. Most people choose to do so. Stop voting for and electing politicians who continually vote to provide more power to these companies.

    Politicians are selected, not elected.


    I think Samuel Clemens once said that if voting was legit, it would be illegal. And given how the MEDIA announced who 'won' the recent election....it's all a TRIBBLE shoot, right now.

    Which is why lots of people regained faith in the US election during 2016. There is no way the establishment would allow someone like the current US President in office if they controlled the election. It is possible that the establishment never thought that the current US President would win and decided to slack off that year.

    However, this is getting too political for these forums.

    The MEDIA said who won. It ain't over yet.

    *Plops on her Trump cap* B) I am for neither side, I just support Donnie.
    The fight continues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Nk323Mnto



    Anyhow, I look foreword to Axanar. The FASA 4 years war is far more interesting to see than what Discovery gave us with the so-called Klingon war.

    The original TOS writers guide (there were several as the series evolved over the seasons), instead of going on for pages and pages of fictional history to bring outside writers up to speed simply stated that the general recent history of the show was similar to the 20th century in the placement of conflicts on the timeline, though the nature of them weren't always the same and they had so far avoided anything corresponding to the Vietnam war (probably at the insistence of NBC).

    Going by that, the Four Years War and Burham's war would map to WWII and the Korean conflict respectively. There would have been no intrinsic problem to both existing if Moonves was not so short-sighted and spiteful that DSC had such anti-TOS gatekeeping as statements like "the Klingons have been quiet for 100 years", the inclusion of cloaks (some kind of ECM to make long range detection difficult would have worked just as well), and forcing a totally different and deliberately incompatible narrow look (for example the sign in the design room that screamed "NO ROUND ENGINES!!!" in big block letters) instead of a more inclusive and realistic mix of aesthetics.

    Of course, while CBS made a big thing about it being a "war story" in the season one runup they never delivered on it since the show focused on other things instead (as one of the lead writers put it, on the "the kind of seriously screwed up characters which do not go over well with regular TV viewers") while with few exceptions the war only happened off camera. There is an axiom in writing called "show, don't tell" and the excessive "telling" bit them on the behind, they simply ever sold the idea of it being a desperate war, it comes across as little more than a short blitz of extreme psychotic murderer level vandalism at most, which makes all the "desperate measures" the characters do seem silly and pointless.

    In fact, even with only one ship the Xindi conflict in ENT did a much better job of conveying the feel of a desperate war than DSC did. While Prelude to Axanar had a few rather serious flaws in their compatibility with Trek too, it even did a better job with the war feel than DSC season one.
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