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kellmg96#5851 kellmg96 Member Posts: 858 Arc User
Are they making a full faction, or just a new species, or just space barbie parts?
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,886 Arc User
    I doubt if it will be any sort of faction, though it would be nice if they did since it would remove almost all of the barriers to doing another AoY. More likely it will just be either a new race for KDF or even more likely just more parts for the regular generator, it is something the devs have not talked about at all except for the vague announcement that they are working on them in some unspecified form.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    No one knows but the devs...with how slow it has been in 2020 and the way the story is being set up to be honest it would be a little disappointing if they don't make a sub-faction
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,698 Arc User
    every time i see Disco Klingons I see Work in the saturday night fever leisure suit
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  • stocostumes#8412 stocostumes Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    For anyone interested we have created pretty good(we think!) versions of both the Discovery (show) Klingons and House Mo'Kai Klingons from STO using the alien gen:

    Discovery (show) characters:

    https://imgur.com/a/WhZROZL

    House Mo'Kai characters:

    https://imgur.com/a/aoqpXsv

    All of these costumes are available for download here :smile:
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    It is not unlikely they do like they did with the Fed earlier time characters: have it in the Klingons, just as separate but still Klingon race.
    That would seem the most logical way to go?
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  • starshine#7408 starshine Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    I think they should just add them as parts you can choose in the tailor. Like how TOS klingons are.
    It'd nice to have the costume parts for all klingon faction, not be limited to only the subfaction.
    And it would mean not having to make a new klingon to do it.

    A new faction for Mokai or timedisplaced origin klingons would be cool, as itd mean a new UI and stuff. But it'd also mean new dialogue for all the storylines they went and got fancy voiceactors for.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    But it'd also mean new dialogue for all the storylines they went and got fancy voiceactors for.

    Nope, it wouldn't. See Jem'hadar (and if you don't understand what I mean, they simply get the same dialogue options as the faction they ally with).

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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    I hope faction, i have a bank alt dedicated to just gearing up a dis klingon.
    All kinds of things in there.

    Responding to your question in the OP: no, they definitely won't make a "full faction". What you might get, at most, is a "mini" faction which has a short (5 or less) mission intro before you join/ally with either Fed or KDF and then everything you play is exactly the same as everyone else.

    For reference, here are a few general terms people use:

    FULL faction = Fed and KDF (they have their own unique missions and remain their own unique factions)

    MINI-faction = Rom (they have their own unique missions but then have to join either Fed or KDF)

    FRaction (joke term, really a smaller min-faction) = TOS and Disco Fed and Jem'Hadar (they have even LESS unique missions than Roms and still have to join either Fed or KDF).

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  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    I think it's just space barbie parts but it would be interesting if they also did a FRaction, they already laid down the ground work to introduce how disco klingons got to the 25th century, they we're obviously part of J'Ula's crew.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,397 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    I'm sorry...but if the if the michael burnham show klinks gets a full faction and the romulans don't...I'm gone from this game.

    DSC klingons getting their own full faction is pretty much an impossibility, at best they'll get what the romulans get (unique tutorial and some unique/changed missions) though most likely if they're gonna even any kind of factions it's more or less identical to DSC fed aka unique tutorial and some missions that everyone can play that form the storyline as to how they "got here".

    Haven't they pretty much said that they quit doing full new factions with romulans due to how hard it was to code and that's why we got the Romulan Republic as it is now.

    Though honestly we'll probably get only the option in tailor, there really isn't a good way to have 23c klinks (be they DSC or TOS) join current KDF.

    DSC FED and the dominion should be our point of reference when looking at new factions, meaning minimal unique content before joining either FED or KDF. There's no room for purple on the current code base just red and blue.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,397 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    > @coldnapalm said:
    > Yes...I realize the chances are almost nil...but if it happens...expect an epic rage post from me is all I am saying.

    Honestly if made that of all things a full faction you would not be only one raging and not due it being a dsc faction, but honestly they not different enough from base klinks to deserve a full faction.

    Edit:I'd say the chances of it happening are so low as to a practical impossibility. As in the only reason to even consider it, is if you think the main goal of Cryptic is ruin your fun and getting profit is a bonus to them.
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Honestly if made that of all things a full faction you would not be only one raging and not due it being a dsc faction, but honestly they not different enough from base klinks to deserve a full faction.
    Though I am a KDF, I have to agree.
    And with recent Picard, they should even more be targeted for decent upgerade.
    Next year: Year of the Roms, I'd say?
    Followed by a year of Dom?
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,886 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    kiksken wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Honestly if made that of all things a full faction you would not be only one raging and not due it being a dsc faction, but honestly they not different enough from base klinks to deserve a full faction.
    Though I am a KDF, I have to agree.
    And with recent Picard, they should even more be targeted for decent upgerade.
    Next year: Year of the Roms, I'd say?
    Followed by a year of Dom?

    Year of the Romulan I could see, especially since PIC seems to have introduced an entirely different interpretation of the Romulans from STO's version so it could introduce the PIC Romulans as a new subfaction coalescing from elements who do not wish to join the Republic to reconcile the two.

    Year of the Dominion is not likely since there is practically no Dominion presence in the game at all to work with. All Jem'Hadar player characters and ships are part of Odo's offbeat private army, not regular units for instance, and there seems to be a grand total of maybe a half dozen administrators and diplomats representing the Dominion beyond Odo's oddballs.

    In order to have anything to work with they would have to flesh out the skeletal framework of the current Jem'hadar-only faction into something at least minimally resembling the canon Dominion to open up more possibilities, and the devs seem more reluctant to add Vorta (or any of the other Gamma quadrant races for that matter) than they are to doing a T6 Nova/Rhode Island.

    Also, by two years from now there will probably be something else new to provide a theme for the year instead now that Star Trek is live again.
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    Year of the Romulan I could see...
    Well, at least one thing we agree on, then. ;)

    Kind of like to see the story in the Dominion though...
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,886 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    kiksken wrote: »
    Year of the Romulan I could see...
    Well, at least one thing we agree on, then. ;)

    Kind of like to see the story in the Dominion though...

    I would like to see the Dominion fleshed out too (I have several faux-Vorta in the game in fact), I just don't think they will do it.

    Besides their apparent reluctance to make official Vorta for other reasons, I suspect that expanding the single-race unlock into a workable demi-faction would entail considerably more work than adding a subfaction to the others would be because of the way the Jem'Hadar start at endgame. Chances are they would have to make a totally separate faction code-wise to accommodate the leveling Dominion races and tie the two together in a way that looks seamless, and that is not always easy.

    Odo's expeditionary force really has little to do with the Dominion itself so it would not be a good vehicle for exploring Dominion issues.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    Year of the Romulan I could see...
    Well, at least one thing we agree on, then. ;)

    Kind of like to see the story in the Dominion though...

    I would like to see the Dominion fleshed out too (I have several faux-Vorta in the game in fact), I just don't think they will do it.

    Besides their apparent reluctance to make official Vorta for other reasons, I suspect that expanding the single-race unlock into a workable demi-faction would entail considerably more work than adding a subfaction to the others would be because of the way the Jem'Hadar start at endgame. Chances are they would have to make a totally separate faction code-wise to accommodate the leveling Dominion races and tie the two together in a way that looks seamless, and that is not always easy.

    Odo's expeditionary force really has little to do with the Dominion itself so it would not be a good vehicle for exploring Dominion issues.

    Dominion should have at least gotten playable Vorta...the whole argument about Vorta not being combatants is thrown out the window when you have a thousands different admirals doing away missions. Plus we saw Weyoun pull a weapon on someone...
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  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    kiksken wrote: »
    Year of the Romulan I could see...
    Well, at least one thing we agree on, then. ;)

    Kind of like to see the story in the Dominion though...

    I would like to see the Dominion fleshed out too (I have several faux-Vorta in the game in fact), I just don't think they will do it.

    Besides their apparent reluctance to make official Vorta for other reasons, I suspect that expanding the single-race unlock into a workable demi-faction would entail considerably more work than adding a subfaction to the others would be because of the way the Jem'Hadar start at endgame. Chances are they would have to make a totally separate faction code-wise to accommodate the leveling Dominion races and tie the two together in a way that looks seamless, and that is not always easy.

    Odo's expeditionary force really has little to do with the Dominion itself so it would not be a good vehicle for exploring Dominion issues.

    Dominion should have at least gotten playable Vorta...the whole argument about Vorta not being combatants is thrown out the window when you have a thousands different admirals doing away missions. Plus we saw Weyoun pull a weapon on someone...

    Just cause the Vorta have bad eye sight doesn't mean they suck at combat, this reference might not be star trek related but bad eye sight didn't stop daredevil from kicking TRIBBLE and add in the fact that Vortas have better hearing than most species, even they could be a formidable threat.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    Sorry OP if we got off topic.
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