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Midnights Edge: Star Trek 4 Cancelled ?

lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
https://youtu.be/d96RFiA-x3M

Take what they say with a huge grain of salt.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Or...just ignore the moron maybe?

    A broken clock is right twice a day while Midnight's Edge is probably right twice in their lifetime. Time will tell if this is one of the few times that they are correct.
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    khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
    How to test if a “news” story is true: Is anyone else carrying the story?
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    khan5000 wrote: »
    How to test if a “news” story is true: Is anyone else carrying the story?

    Not quite. Only by independent verification of three or more sources using sufficient journalistic integrity can it be determined if a news story is true or at least more likely to be true. With something involving a TV show, it just requires the creator or the studio executive for verification in a video not multiple publications. So if Midnight's Edge somehow was able to convince the Director for Star Trek 4 or the Studio Executive responsible for Star Trek 4 to come on his show and mention that Star Trek 4 was scrapped, then that is verification. Otherwise, it is just internet rumors that should be ignored.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    The studio is so worried about 'Picard' that they confirmed that they renewed it for a second season; and keep in mind they've done so before the first season has aired.

    Yeah..... no. Midnight's Edge shouldn't be taken seriously - its nothing more than one persons consipiracy theories at this point and he's almost always wrong.

    Midnight's Edge should be watched for the same reason that people watched Alex Jones, comedic value and maybe one or two of his conspiracy theories will be proven to be true. Although if I remember correctly according to the Book of Revelation, Midnight's Edge being correct is one of the signs of the apocalypse.
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    theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
    Take it with an industrial bucket sized pinch of salt.
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      markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
      Take it with an industrial bucket sized pinch of salt.
      Maybe this much salt:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaa8xL6scwE
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      angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
      1. Get a reputation
      2. Make clickbait youtube videos
      3. Ad revenue!
      4. ???
      5. Boredom​​
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      starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
      edited January 2020
      > @starkaos said:
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      > Midnight's Edge should be watched for the same reason that people watched Alex Jones, comedic value and maybe one or two of his conspiracy theories will be proven to be true. Although if I remember correctly according to the Book of Revelation, Midnight's Edge being correct is one of the signs of the apocalypse.

      Lying morons don't deserve to get ad revenue from me watching them be lying morons.
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      starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
      starswordc wrote: »
      > starkaos said:
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      > Midnight's Edge should be watched for the same reason that people watched Alex Jones, comedic value and maybe one or two of his conspiracy theories will be proven to be true. Although if I remember correctly according to the Book of Revelation, Midnight's Edge being correct is one of the signs of the apocalypse.

      Lying morons don't deserve to get ad revenue from me watching them be lying morons.

      That must seriously limit what you are able to watch.
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      rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
      Midnight's Edge is clickbait toxic ranting. Best ignored.
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      khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
      > @starkaos said:
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      > Not quite. Only by independent verification of three or more sources using sufficient journalistic integrity can it be determined if a news story is true or at least more likely to be true. With something involving a TV show, it just requires the creator or the studio executive for verification in a video not multiple publications. So if Midnight's Edge somehow was able to convince the Director for Star Trek 4 or the Studio Executive responsible for Star Trek 4 to come on his show and mention that Star Trek 4 was scrapped, then that is verification. Otherwise, it is just internet rumors that should be ignored.

      Did the creator or the studio exec go on ME to say the movie was cancelled?
      Nope.
      When the director of Star Trek 4 was announced the news was carried by the trades...Hollywood’s newspapers (The Hollywood Reporter, Deadline and Variety). Is anyone else reporting that Star Trek 4 is cancelled? No.
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      starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
      khan5000 wrote: »
      Did the creator or the studio exec go on ME to say the movie was cancelled?
      Nope.
      When the director of Star Trek 4 was announced the news was carried by the trades...Hollywood’s newspapers (The Hollywood Reporter, Deadline and Variety). Is anyone else reporting that Star Trek 4 is cancelled? No.

      Did I ever say that a creator or studio exec went on Midnight's Edge? I mentioned it because that is the only way for Midnight's Edge to be correct. It is far more likely for Star Wars and Star Trek to combine into a single franchise than for Midnight's Edge to be correct and if he is then it is one of the signs of the apocalypse.

      As far as verification goes, some news is picked up by only one outlet. Anything to do with an announcement or cancellation and major actors involved would be covered by numerous outlets. However, something minor about the movie could be covered by only one outlet.
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      rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
      starkaos wrote: »
      As far as verification goes, some news is picked up by only one outlet. Anything to do with an announcement or cancellation and major actors involved would be covered by numerous outlets. However, something minor about the movie could be covered by only one outlet.

      And frankly Midnight's Edge is not a reliable outlet anyways. He's a Clickbait Toxic Ranter who tries to pass off his ideas as credible news.

      He's been saying Discovery's doomed for years, he's been saying Picard is doomed... he's, frankly, a biased doommongering conspiracy idiot who's only in it for the ad revinue and view count to make him look more legit.

      I'd sooner believe Trekyards over ME because at least they would admit if they're a bit biased in their opinion, and clearly state that it is their opinion.
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      starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
      starkaos wrote: »
      starswordc wrote: »
      Lying morons don't deserve to get ad revenue from me watching them be lying morons.

      That must seriously limit what you are able to watch.

      Nah, pretty much just means avoiding certain YouTube channels and cable news -- the latter of which isn't hard since I don't have cable to begin with.
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      starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      starkaos wrote: »
      As far as verification goes, some news is picked up by only one outlet. Anything to do with an announcement or cancellation and major actors involved would be covered by numerous outlets. However, something minor about the movie could be covered by only one outlet.

      And frankly Midnight's Edge is not a reliable outlet anyways. He's a Clickbait Toxic Ranter who tries to pass off his ideas as credible news.

      He's been saying Discovery's doomed for years, he's been saying Picard is doomed... he's, frankly, a biased doommongering conspiracy idiot who's only in it for the ad revinue and view count to make him look more legit.

      I'd sooner believe Trekyards over ME because at least they would admit if they're a bit biased in their opinion, and clearly state that it is their opinion.

      It would be interesting to see if they actually believes or at least partially believes what they spews or if they are just playing a character on their channel.
      starswordc wrote: »
      starkaos wrote: »
      starswordc wrote: »
      Lying morons don't deserve to get ad revenue from me watching them be lying morons.

      That must seriously limit what you are able to watch.

      Nah, pretty much just means avoiding certain YouTube channels and cable news -- the latter of which isn't hard since I don't have cable to begin with.

      There are very few credible cable news shows. I mostly stick with a few Youtube channels for my news. I find with most of the shows with one moderator and a bunch of different people that is far too common on cable news shows kills brain cells. The ones with one interviewer and guest is too short for a specific point to get across or they bring on the worst guest to champion for a specific side. Podcasts like Dave Rubin or Joe Rogan where they have one decent guest speak for an hour or more is far more effective and not possible with cable news. In 10 to 20 years, there might not be a cable news network anymore or even cable.
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      rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
      starkaos wrote: »

      It would be interesting to see if they actually believes or at least partially believes what they spews or if they are just playing a character on their channel.

      Considering how heated things get on the forums... I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he believes what he peddles as news.
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      mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
      Star Trek IV: Midnight's Edge Channel Cancelled?
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      tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
      oh please... ST4 died ages ago when they couldnt pony up the money they promised the stars... they pre-announce to drum up interest in funding. in the old days... a movie is announced it is already funded. 3 either bombed or under preformed... investors did not bite and hell there are virtually no Kelvin toys/licensing deals/products compared to the TNG or Original ST. Just cause a series is green lit does not mean it is a success. We are in the streaming wars... need content even if it is junk. Discovery is a bomb/under performing if you look at the licensing deals or lack of. I still enjoy the ST movies... but it's not real ST. It's like Bay Transformers... it's not Gen1 Transformers... but it's a nice pop corn flick, see and forget. If they do fund ST4 good, if not /shrug no biggie. I am looking forward to all new trek with the TV and Movie license rejoined with Shari Redstone.
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      lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
      starkaos wrote: »
      coldnapalm wrote: »
      Or...just ignore the moron maybe?

      A broken clock is right twice a day while Midnight's Edge is probably right twice in their lifetime. Time will tell if this is one of the few times that they are correct.

      Except that have been right more often than twice, but I understand that people are salty and will flat out lie because they don't like them.
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      khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
      > @lianthelia said:
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      > Except that have been right more often than twice, but I understand that people are salty and will flat out lie because they don't like them.

      Sure I’ll bite...what have they been right about? Discovery being cancelled after season 1? Discovery being cancelled after season 2?
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      khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
      Update:
      Noah Hawley talks about his Star Trek movie. I guess he didn’t get the memo that his movie was scrapped.

      https://deadline.com/2020/01/star-trek-movie-noah-hawley-doctor-doom-cats-cradle-1202826468/
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      markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
      khan5000 wrote: »
      > @lianthelia said:
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      > Except that have been right more often than twice, but I understand that people are salty and will flat out lie because they don't like them.

      Sure I’ll bite...what have they been right about? Discovery being cancelled after season 1? Discovery being cancelled after season 2?
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      theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
      Take it with an industrial bucket sized pinch of salt.
      Maybe this much salt:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaa8xL6scwE

      That's a lot of salt.
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        mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
        lordgyor wrote: »
        https://youtu.be/d96RFiA-x3M

        Take what they say with a huge grain of salt.

        You mean you don't believe the tripe being stated within. So why bring it here?
        Is it because you can, or because you are just looking for some amusement? whatever the issue, if you aren't convinced, then i got no reason to pay any attention to it.
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        lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailystartreknews.com/read/noah-hawley-has-his-own-take-on-star-trek-4-says-star-trek-is-about-exploration-and-humanity-at-itsbest?format=amp

        Interesting, so its not dead,but its also not a done deal yet. This version of ST4 is still very early stages, nothing has been signed and no script. So Midnight's edge might not be wrong, but overstating it.
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        jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,366 Arc User
        Nope, they're wrong. A dude that busy isn't doing a potential ST4 script on spec; if there isn't a signed contract, he's got about four other things to do right now that are paying gigs.
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        khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
        First paragraph of the article I posted said Star Trek was his next gig
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