Hello everyone. I wanna ask if anyone else noticed something strange about the phoenix box drop rates. I used to buy like 10 packs a day with daily dil. During the former events it was extremely rare I haven't got a single purple token (very rare). Usually I had like 1-2 of those per 10 pack. Right now it's really common I don't get any purples or even get 10 greens in a row. Am I extremely unlucky or did the odds change? If so I somehow missed it...
I would say yes, but I'd also say the odds have improved.
The first time I got an ultra rare token was during the event before the previous one.
I now have two ultra rare (I got three in the last couple of weeks) and two epic tokens. I'm even using the ultra rare ones now for upgrades because I get more than I need.
Even though I'm not buying more packs, I'm probably buying fewer of them even.
The last time I bought 100 Packs, I cleared 163 Phoenix Upgrades from them.
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Statistical testing says any percieved changes are just that, percieved, not actual.
That depends. It's probably better to say, 'Perceived changes, when taken from too small a sample, are only perceived, not actual.' It is, however, quite possible to notice a change in the odds (in a large enough sample) when such a change is actual.
The likelihood of Cryptic actually having changed the odds are very slim, though.
400+ boxes, nothing above very rare tokens for me...
That is about par for the course actually, the odds of anything higher are truly abysmal. I have opened more than twice that many, and while I have gotten one epic and one ultra rare, neither of them came out of one of the boxes, both were directly from the Ferengi on Drozanna.
I had 4 epics in the past couple of days so decided to buy a lotto ticket. Hope I haven't used up all my luck for the year already
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I only had 3 epics in the past years. I don't know exactly how much boxes I opened but it was definitely 3000+ I had a bunch of ultra rares though. At least 10 of those. They give some nice admiralty card ships - I can't complain
I only had 3 epics in the past years. I don't know exactly how much boxes I opened but it was definitely 3000+ I had a bunch of ultra rares though. At least 10 of those. They give some nice admiralty card ships - I can't complain
In all the years the Phoenix Boxes have been around, I have never gotten even an Ultra-Rare, let alone an Epic.
I only had 3 epics in the past years. I don't know exactly how much boxes I opened but it was definitely 3000+ I had a bunch of ultra rares though. At least 10 of those. They give some nice admiralty card ships - I can't complain
In all the years the Phoenix Boxes have been around, I have never gotten even an Ultra-Rare, let alone an Epic.
I think more & more of the remaining players feel this way &/or have that experience so don't gamble as much with it anymore. They are good for upgrade tokens & some of the lower tier items are nice for characters if not account-unlocked or not have. I think Cryptic is pushing to have Mudd's be primary over Phoenix so I wouldn't doubt a slower pace of additions to Phoenix &/or odds being changed for better or worse.
In all the years the Phoenix Boxes have been around, I have never gotten even an Ultra-Rare, let alone an Epic.
It depends on how many boxes you open, I guess... Can you remember or guess how much it was? I'm pretty sure I was preparing for every event. I didn't know exactly when it was ofc, but I started collecting dil when I had the feeling in the next month or two will be the day X. So I had decent amounts of it for every event, buying like 300-500 boxes each time or nearly each time. It the last few events I even bought some zen and converted to dil because the dilex rates were good for selling zen. (That's what I'm not doing anymore) So I had loads, loads of those boxes. Even so, those drop rates are kinda crazy. I got all of my epics in the same event. Out of the same +/-500 boxes. And since than never again...
I think Cryptic is pushing to have Mudd's be primary over Phoenix
Honestly, that's a shame. The game needs dilex fixed and Cryptic is killing the only event that could manage it. With new stuff constantly getting added to p-boxes the interest for those would eventually never fade. But now, well... I think people don't buy as much p-boxes as they used to.
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The first time I got an ultra rare token was during the event before the previous one.
I now have two ultra rare (I got three in the last couple of weeks) and two epic tokens. I'm even using the ultra rare ones now for upgrades because I get more than I need.
Even though I'm not buying more packs, I'm probably buying fewer of them even.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
That depends. It's probably better to say, 'Perceived changes, when taken from too small a sample, are only perceived, not actual.' It is, however, quite possible to notice a change in the odds (in a large enough sample) when such a change is actual.
The likelihood of Cryptic actually having changed the odds are very slim, though.
That is about par for the course actually, the odds of anything higher are truly abysmal. I have opened more than twice that many, and while I have gotten one epic and one ultra rare, neither of them came out of one of the boxes, both were directly from the Ferengi on Drozanna.
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
In all the years the Phoenix Boxes have been around, I have never gotten even an Ultra-Rare, let alone an Epic.
I think more & more of the remaining players feel this way &/or have that experience so don't gamble as much with it anymore. They are good for upgrade tokens & some of the lower tier items are nice for characters if not account-unlocked or not have. I think Cryptic is pushing to have Mudd's be primary over Phoenix so I wouldn't doubt a slower pace of additions to Phoenix &/or odds being changed for better or worse.
It depends on how many boxes you open, I guess... Can you remember or guess how much it was? I'm pretty sure I was preparing for every event. I didn't know exactly when it was ofc, but I started collecting dil when I had the feeling in the next month or two will be the day X. So I had decent amounts of it for every event, buying like 300-500 boxes each time or nearly each time. It the last few events I even bought some zen and converted to dil because the dilex rates were good for selling zen. (That's what I'm not doing anymore) So I had loads, loads of those boxes. Even so, those drop rates are kinda crazy. I got all of my epics in the same event. Out of the same +/-500 boxes. And since than never again...
Honestly, that's a shame. The game needs dilex fixed and Cryptic is killing the only event that could manage it. With new stuff constantly getting added to p-boxes the interest for those would eventually never fade. But now, well... I think people don't buy as much p-boxes as they used to.