i'd like to know what the hell kind of NASA-grade modem you have that it takes a cat KNOCKING IT ON THE FLOOR before you even start to notice minor issues...because i want one
Might be one of those old "brick" styles which you could use to knock down the sealed vault at Fort Knox and the modem would not have a scratch
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After the long server maintenance across all servers the lag has only got worse for me. Cryptic really need to get this fixed and should look at the other MMO's like Eve-Online and how they fix it.
LAG, RUBBERBANDING are testing us players how much we can cope under the stress, they watching us.
Tinfoil caps aside, this is likely a contract and cost issue that Cryptic will likely be very unwilling to discuss until/if/when they are able effect a change to it.
At no time in any thread have I ever claimed to never have any lag. I am responding directly to people talking about last night and this afternoon and only about last night and this afternoon.
I have no lag whatsoever on STO so once again as usual the actual problem is between you and Cryptic not the servers.
I guess you were talking about one night... it sounded to me like you meant that you never have lag ever.
Apologies if I read that incorrectly, I'm just annoyed because to me the Lag actually seems to be getting worse and is a big part of why I am hardly playing STO right now.
I guess like myself you must visit the Dyson Sphere often, the rubberbanding in that Zone esp the Ground and Space zone with the tower control mission is abysmal
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
rubber banding for me has been an small issue since the discovery content 1st went live. before that i has so few issues i wouldn't have complained. but today has to be the worst i've ever had since yesterdays update. other games on pc/xbox/ps4 and other internet tasks such as streaming music/tv shows have no issues.
so i would hope a fix is coming soon. but i wont hold my breath
LAG, RUBBERBANDING are testing us players how much we can cope under the stress, they watching us.
Tinfoil caps aside, this is likely a contract and cost issue that Cryptic will likely be very unwilling to discuss until/if/when they are able effect a change to it.
I adore STO and love the work Cryptic has done, but I want to point out that the contract (it's conjecture on my part if there even is one) with Akamai has been around for maybe 5 years? This is certainly a long standing problem that goes back for ages, so it's not new.
whether this is a popular statement or not but the servers at present are an absolute disgrace. Rubberbanding and Lagging all over the place
Cute and funny as this image is, it is ignorant to think any IT department is able to wave some magic wand and fix every issue immediately. From the data being shared here, quite clear this isn't a simple fix. Changing/moving servers, network upgrades, hardware fixes are not as simple as plug and play.
As has been pointed out in a few other posts by others including myself this has been ongoing for many months over 9 for me, so expecting some sort of at the least acknowledgement beyond a very recent post tracerts isn't beyond the realms of realism.
I know you are advocating for patience but Cryptic are not a company when it comes to fixing bugs that have a good track record you can't poke them with a stick you have to beat them with it for the Community Manager to then ask for data and examples of the reported problem and hope once he passes that information on its doesn't get filed under trash and never dealt with
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This is the best tracert I've ran in the last fortnight and but especially today and yesterday is the worst lag/rubberbanding I've experienced in that time period.
Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.184.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ttrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms host-78-151-230-227.as13285.net [78.151.230.227]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms host-78-151-230-240.as13285.net [78.151.230.240]
5 17 ms 16 ms 12 ms host-78-144-0-69.as13285.net [78.144.0.69]
6 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms akamai.prolexic.com [195.66.224.31]
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms po110.bs-a.sech-lon2.netarch.akamai.com [72.52.60.192]
8 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms a72-52-1-189.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [72.52.1.189]
9 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms ae120.access-a.sech-lon2.netarch.akamai.com [72.52.60.197]
10 98 ms 93 ms 90 ms 93.191.173.11
11 92 ms 92 ms 92 ms a72-52-27-212.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [72.52.27.212]
12 105 ms 100 ms 97 ms 198.49.243.237
13 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.184.200]
Trace complete.
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Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
LAG, RUBBERBANDING are testing us players how much we can cope under the stress, they watching us.
Tinfoil caps aside, this is likely a contract and cost issue that Cryptic will likely be very unwilling to discuss until/if/when they are able effect a change to it.
I adore STO and love the work Cryptic has done, but I want to point out that the contract (it's conjecture on my part if there even is one) with Akamai has been around for maybe 5 years? This is certainly a long standing problem that goes back for ages, so it's not new.
I never stated it was new. Rather I stated that, as a person who has run a company with contracts and cost controls, that they will likely not discuss (nor admit) to the issues associated with Akamai until they are in a position to, or are in the process of currently effecting said. As this has been ongoing since PWE acquired Cryptic I would hazard a guess that there is little Cryptic itself can or will do without permissions from higher up.
LAG, RUBBERBANDING are testing us players how much we can cope under the stress, they watching us.
Tinfoil caps aside, this is likely a contract and cost issue that Cryptic will likely be very unwilling to discuss until/if/when they are able effect a change to it.
I adore STO and love the work Cryptic has done, but I want to point out that the contract (it's conjecture on my part if there even is one) with Akamai has been around for maybe 5 years? This is certainly a long standing problem that goes back for ages, so it's not new.
I never stated it was new. Rather I stated that, as a person who has run a company with contracts and cost controls, that they will likely not discuss (nor admit) to the issues associated with Akamai until they are in a position to, or are in the process of currently effecting said. As this has been ongoing since PWE acquired Cryptic I would hazard a guess that there is little Cryptic itself can or will do without permissions from higher up.
Ok, understandable.
Only have my personal experience to judge but my fleet is older than dirt and this rubberbanding/disconnects issue is the #1 topic. It's painfully obvious that priorities need to change, what use is all the fancy new ships and lockbox items they sell if people are leaving the game due to the constant heartache? I would gladly trade more rubberbanding as opposed to getting constantly kicked out on a map change or joining a tfo. I'm rapidly approaching the stage where I need to make a decision and the complete lack of communication over years, multiple pc's, locations, and ISP's leads me to believe that they just don't care as long as the credit card machine's continue to work.
> @tom40s said:
> Well I guess I am done playing for a while and if they do not fix this forever. maybe the Orville will come up with a online game that is like startrek online but actually works. After todays update, the excessive lag is back along with the rubber banding, attempted to play ground and kept getting turned around because of it could not play at all, space too, uninstalled twice, force verified, the game is now unplayable.
None of this is true. It may be happening to you but it is not happening to me or many others therefore it is not the game that is the problem.
You may be right and you may be wrong I have been playing this game for 8 years and there has always been lag, I have an Omen computer now before that alien ware and that computer had lag but not as bad as this, before that I had a regular dell which worked great, maybe it is the more expensive gaming computers and not built for STO, I am checking it on my end, my GPU is over heating when I play STO which is part of the problem when I get to 99C I crash, so yes you are partly right, some one suggesting uninstalling my omen command center but until I can talk to some one from HP I will continue to investigate, but depending on your location you might just be lucky, so bully for you - great going chum - hip hip horary for you, but there is obviously a issue here for some people playing this game I am playing from Pennsylvania USA, where are you playing from are you close to the main server or something, I do not know, but again because you keep boasting about your great game play great for you, I am sooooooo happy for you, now back off.
Lag - specifically rubber-banding - has been a problem for me for some time now. It's all the time, especially in places like DS-9. A couple of nights ago I tried to get through the doors of the exchange, and it took me 8 attempts to do so, the rubber-banding was so bad.
It doesn't matter who or what is to blame, only Cryptic has the means to fix the problem. I can only hope they are actually working on it.
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As has been pointed out in a few other posts by others including myself this has been ongoing for many months over 9 for me, so expecting some sort of at the least acknowledgement beyond a very recent post tracerts isn't beyond the realms of realism.
I know you are advocating for patience but Cryptic are not a company when it comes to fixing bugs that have a good track record you can't poke them with a stick you have to beat them with it for the Community Manager to then ask for data and examples of the reported problem and hope once he passes that information on its doesn't get filed under trash and never dealt with
Even if they were to acknowledge an issue, it seems abundantly clear not everyone will like the answer and will take every opportunity to berate them no matter what they do.
Again, if it is something within a server farm they are contracted to use or are using because it fits their budget, it isn't a simple amount of work to just up and move nor does it mean it is financially feasible to do either.
I don't buy that because none of the other space MMO's have these kinds of problems for these length of times and when they do they manage to fix them on a budget a fraction of the size of Star Trek Online. They should stop wasting money on actors and other minor things that don't really matter but cost a lot and spend that money on getting this fixed. Then when its fixed go back to luxuries like hiring actors.
This is well beyond minor lag and is impacting player retention and player quality of life.
I've been considering making my own thread for the next rubber-banding issue that occurs; as a way to keep people interested in the phenomenon I've been researching various alternative adjectives to use in the thread title and discussion itself.
These are just a few of my most splendid ideas, I have many more (which I shall of course share with you all in due course).
As rubberbanding is such a rare issue and is spoken on the forums very infrequently, I regret it may be a very long time, before I get the chance to fully realise this most cherished idea of mine.
If wish it was only rubberband lag. Game is totally unplayable by now. Had rubberband yesterday, dialogs didn't work. Any menu click you press takes ages to respond. Switch toons takes ages. But today, it was even worse. At the end I got SNR and disconnects. No way to get the daily mushroom junk to get the starship. I guess they will be happy if we'll need to spend zen for it.
I log in every day and get some form of rubberbanding and/or SNR and/or d/cs.
Today it wasn't too bad. Very playable. I have the ship on my main, tomorrow will get it on my alt and due to trouble with Tribble (lol, pun intended), I'll have it on there in about five days.
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
Lag is the worst now I have seen it in the 5 years on Holodeck. Lag even in the mini-games, up to 2 minutes just to load a map, and then consecutive map-loading times like this, not even being able to cross the Academy grounds in less that a minute, because my 'toon in being snapped back several times, even being snapped backwards through or inside of walls. I've got the fastest internet connection I've ever had, and still...chaos. Time for Cryptic to dump their ISP for a real one... -_-
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> @samargatha said:
> If wish it was only rubberband lag. Game is totally unplayable by now. Had rubberband yesterday, dialogs didn't work. Any menu click you press takes ages to respond. Switch toons takes ages. But today, it was even worse. At the end I got SNR and disconnects. No way to get the daily mushroom junk to get the starship. I guess they will be happy if we'll need to spend zen for it.
I'm logged in right now and not having any of those problems.
I get all those but not all the time it comes and goes depending on time of day and depending what area of the game I am in. It could well be you don't play in the areas that have problems or the time you play means you are avoiding the lag patchs. As you know server based lag doesn't effect all players or even happen all the time. Its intermittent and sometimes only effects part of the player base. That and perhaps you are getting lag just not noticing it. Not everyone is sensitive to lag.
The NPC's I was just shooting just paused mid firing on ground for 5 seconds with the phaser beam stuck in mid air until they unlagged out. 5mins later I an out a building only to rubberband back inside.
I have given up running HSE as 100% of the time the entire group over many runs have ran into problems. That's server lag right there.
It has indeed been a lot worse lately, whatever Cryptic thought it was doing on implementing improvements to "fix" this, has either not worked at all or has somehow made it worse (in typical Cryptic fashion no less)! I think they have been avoiding the actual cause of this (akamai) and have resorted to putting a band-aid on a dam that has cracks the size of tall buildings and is spewing leaks all over the place.
It irks me when you have a 6 page thread about lag and rubberbanding where each person has
1. a different PC,
2. is in a different location,
3. different timezones,
4. Different Countries
5. multiple ISP's and different broadband speeds being used
But all have one thing in common Lag/rubberbanding/game freezing/snr and powertray misfires
Yet others dismiss it as I have no issues so it must be your end.
I've heard this tinpot argument before where in the past we had misfiring powertrays in space and people were saying its user end problems but was proven to be Cryptic's fault due to poor optimisation of powers being used.
When Agents of Yesterday dropped some players myself included could play every part of the game except the Dyson Ground Battlezone which was causing random memory spikes and crashing the game to desktop. And what was I told ? its your end, your PC but guess what it was proven once again to be a Cryptic coding issue.
If you are not having lag/rubberbanding/powertray misfires/game freezes/snr issues at all great you're the luckiest people on the planet. But do not dismiss the people reporting issues here, in game, on other forums or social media and saying it is a fault at thier end.
This i'm all right jack who cares what issue you are having attitude doesn't help anyone.
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
Isn't it normal for it to be this way for a day or two after a patch? By normal I mean it usually happening then it will clear up quickly sort of like acne or something not that it should be happening normally in the first place. In my experience it has been worse in the last few months compared to previously, but only one time was it really bad, for me, that made STO unplayable so I just logged out for the day. Thankfully nothing needed to be completed in a timely manner or would lose out that one time.
Isn't it normal for it to be this way for a day or two after a patch? By normal I mean it usually happening then it will clear up quickly sort of like acne or something not that it should be happening normally in the first place. In my experience it has been worse in the last few months compared to previously, but only one time was it really bad, for me, that made STO unplayable so I just logged out for the day. Thankfully nothing needed to be completed in a timely manner or would lose out that one time.
The lag we are talking about is not just the "normal" patch day lag or new content day lag. My main play time is when the server population is at the lowest point which normally would be 100% lag free as the server is under no stress. But even that playtime has in recent months become unplayable. No matter what time of day 100% of my HSE runs over the past 8months have gone wrong with lag, rubberbanding, fail powers and ships disappearing and graphics disappearing for the entire group. I don't see how that can be anything but server related. Although I don't believe all the lag problems are server related.
> @tom40s said:
> (Quote)
> You may be right and you may be wrong I have been playing this game for 8 years and there has always been lag, I have an Omen computer now before that alien ware and that computer had lag but not as bad as this, before that I had a regular dell which worked great, maybe it is the more expensive gaming computers and not built for STO, I am checking it on my end, my GPU is over heating when I play STO which is part of the problem when I get to 99C I crash, so yes you are partly right, some one suggesting uninstalling my omen command center but until I can talk to some one from HP I will continue to investigate, but depending on your location you might just be lucky, so bully for you - great going chum - hip hip horary for you, but there is obviously a issue here for some people playing this game I am playing from Pennsylvania USA, where are you playing from are you close to the main server or something, I do not know, but again because you keep boasting about your great game play great for you, I am sooooooo happy for you, now back off.
I'm playing in South Dakota, you are a lot closer to the servers than I am. And no I will not back off.
Hem well I thought South DAKOTA is closer to California then Pennsylvania oh wait it is so your closer to the servers so no YOU BACK OFF!
How about you both back off and stop attacking each other?
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> @tom40s said:
> (Quote)
> You may be right and you may be wrong I have been playing this game for 8 years and there has always been lag, I have an Omen computer now before that alien ware and that computer had lag but not as bad as this, before that I had a regular dell which worked great, maybe it is the more expensive gaming computers and not built for STO, I am checking it on my end, my GPU is over heating when I play STO which is part of the problem when I get to 99C I crash, so yes you are partly right, some one suggesting uninstalling my omen command center but until I can talk to some one from HP I will continue to investigate, but depending on your location you might just be lucky, so bully for you - great going chum - hip hip horary for you, but there is obviously a issue here for some people playing this game I am playing from Pennsylvania USA, where are you playing from are you close to the main server or something, I do not know, but again because you keep boasting about your great game play great for you, I am sooooooo happy for you, now back off.
I'm playing in South Dakota, you are a lot closer to the servers than I am. And no I will not back off.
Hem well I thought South DAKOTA is closer to California then Pennsylvania oh wait it is so your closer to the servers so no YOU BACK OFF!
1) The servers are in Massachusetts. No, I'm not clear on why the server farm is located 3000 miles away from the offices either, but I'm sure it makes perfect sense to someone.
2) Physical distance is not entirely meaningful on the internet. Data is transmitted through several different nodes, which bear logical relation to each other, not necessarily physical relation. As has been noted, most of the delay recently appears to have to do with Akamai Technologies and their anti-DDoS software, which in my opinion appears to be mistaking MMO traffic for a DDoS attack.
Emotions have their place - but seldom is that place "in a discussion of computer technology".
Isn't it normal for it to be this way for a day or two after a patch? By normal I mean it usually happening then it will clear up quickly sort of like acne or something not that it should be happening normally in the first place. In my experience it has been worse in the last few months compared to previously, but only one time was it really bad, for me, that made STO unplayable so I just logged out for the day. Thankfully nothing needed to be completed in a timely manner or would lose out that one time.
The lag we are talking about is not just the "normal" patch day lag or new content day lag. My main play time is when the server population is at the lowest point which normally would be 100% lag free as the server is under no stress. But even that playtime has in recent months become unplayable. No matter what time of day 100% of my HSE runs over the past 8months have gone wrong with lag, rubberbanding, fail powers and ships disappearing and graphics disappearing for the entire group. I don't see how that can be anything but server related. Although I don't believe all the lag problems are server related.
Even though I haven't suffered it as much as you & others have stated experience-wise I do agree it has gotten worse, noticeably, over the last few months just not unplayable, for me, except that one time. Hopefully Cryptic will address it & can fix it or make it smoother.
> @tom40s said:
> (Quote)
> You may be right and you may be wrong I have been playing this game for 8 years and there has always been lag, I have an Omen computer now before that alien ware and that computer had lag but not as bad as this, before that I had a regular dell which worked great, maybe it is the more expensive gaming computers and not built for STO, I am checking it on my end, my GPU is over heating when I play STO which is part of the problem when I get to 99C I crash, so yes you are partly right, some one suggesting uninstalling my omen command center but until I can talk to some one from HP I will continue to investigate, but depending on your location you might just be lucky, so bully for you - great going chum - hip hip horary for you, but there is obviously a issue here for some people playing this game I am playing from Pennsylvania USA, where are you playing from are you close to the main server or something, I do not know, but again because you keep boasting about your great game play great for you, I am sooooooo happy for you, now back off.
I'm playing in South Dakota, you are a lot closer to the servers than I am. And no I will not back off.
Hem well I thought South DAKOTA is closer to California then Pennsylvania oh wait it is so your closer to the servers so no YOU BACK OFF!
1) The servers are in Massachusetts. No, I'm not clear on why the server farm is located 3000 miles away from the offices either, but I'm sure it makes perfect sense to someone.
2) Physical distance is not entirely meaningful on the internet. Data is transmitted through several different nodes, which bear logical relation to each other, not necessarily physical relation. As has been noted, most of the delay recently appears to have to do with Akamai Technologies and their anti-DDoS software, which in my opinion appears to be mistaking MMO traffic for a DDoS attack.
Emotions have their place - but seldom is that place "in a discussion of computer technology".
My route trace placed the servers in California. Don't know where you get Massachusetts from. The only thing routed through Boston was Cogent.
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> @leemwatson said:
> (Quote)
>
> My route trace placed the servers in California. Don't know where you get Massachusetts from. The only thing routed through Boston was Cogent.
The servers have always been in massachussetts, since forever.
That's not what my route trace said. It came up with Cryptic's offices in California. Could be that a different route is taken for UK/EU traffic, but it makes no sense for Cryptic's servers to be in Massachussetts.
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Might be one of those old "brick" styles which you could use to knock down the sealed vault at Fort Knox
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Tinfoil caps aside, this is likely a contract and cost issue that Cryptic will likely be very unwilling to discuss until/if/when they are able effect a change to it.
Then I misunderstood. When you said..
I guess you were talking about one night... it sounded to me like you meant that you never have lag ever.
Apologies if I read that incorrectly, I'm just annoyed because to me the Lag actually seems to be getting worse and is a big part of why I am hardly playing STO right now.
I guess like myself you must visit the Dyson Sphere often, the rubberbanding in that Zone esp the Ground and Space zone with the tower control mission is abysmal
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
so i would hope a fix is coming soon. but i wont hold my breath
I adore STO and love the work Cryptic has done, but I want to point out that the contract (it's conjecture on my part if there even is one) with Akamai has been around for maybe 5 years? This is certainly a long standing problem that goes back for ages, so it's not new.
As has been pointed out in a few other posts by others including myself this has been ongoing for many months over 9 for me, so expecting some sort of at the least acknowledgement beyond a very recent post tracerts isn't beyond the realms of realism.
I know you are advocating for patience but Cryptic are not a company when it comes to fixing bugs that have a good track record you can't poke them with a stick you have to beat them with it for the Community Manager to then ask for data and examples of the reported problem and hope once he passes that information on its doesn't get filed under trash and never dealt with
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This is the best tracert I've ran in the last fortnight and but especially today and yesterday is the worst lag/rubberbanding I've experienced in that time period.
Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.184.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ttrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms host-78-151-230-227.as13285.net [78.151.230.227]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms host-78-151-230-240.as13285.net [78.151.230.240]
5 17 ms 16 ms 12 ms host-78-144-0-69.as13285.net [78.144.0.69]
6 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms akamai.prolexic.com [195.66.224.31]
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms po110.bs-a.sech-lon2.netarch.akamai.com [72.52.60.192]
8 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms a72-52-1-189.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [72.52.1.189]
9 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms ae120.access-a.sech-lon2.netarch.akamai.com [72.52.60.197]
10 98 ms 93 ms 90 ms 93.191.173.11
11 92 ms 92 ms 92 ms a72-52-27-212.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [72.52.27.212]
12 105 ms 100 ms 97 ms 198.49.243.237
13 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.184.200]
Trace complete.
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
I never stated it was new. Rather I stated that, as a person who has run a company with contracts and cost controls, that they will likely not discuss (nor admit) to the issues associated with Akamai until they are in a position to, or are in the process of currently effecting said. As this has been ongoing since PWE acquired Cryptic I would hazard a guess that there is little Cryptic itself can or will do without permissions from higher up.
Ok, understandable.
Only have my personal experience to judge but my fleet is older than dirt and this rubberbanding/disconnects issue is the #1 topic. It's painfully obvious that priorities need to change, what use is all the fancy new ships and lockbox items they sell if people are leaving the game due to the constant heartache? I would gladly trade more rubberbanding as opposed to getting constantly kicked out on a map change or joining a tfo. I'm rapidly approaching the stage where I need to make a decision and the complete lack of communication over years, multiple pc's, locations, and ISP's leads me to believe that they just don't care as long as the credit card machine's continue to work.
It doesn't matter who or what is to blame, only Cryptic has the means to fix the problem. I can only hope they are actually working on it.
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This is well beyond minor lag and is impacting player retention and player quality of life.
Some of the candidates are:
"SUPER EPIC ELASTIC-LOOP DISASTER"
"LATENT ELASTIC BANDING FOLLY"
"ELONGATED GUM-BASED LOOP LUNACY"
"ELASTICISED LOLLY LAGGING"
"RUBBERY RECALL RAGE"
These are just a few of my most splendid ideas, I have many more (which I shall of course share with you all in due course).
As rubberbanding is such a rare issue and is spoken on the forums very infrequently, I regret it may be a very long time, before I get the chance to fully realise this most cherished idea of mine.
Ah, but we can dream. Can we not?
Today it wasn't too bad. Very playable. I have the ship on my main, tomorrow will get it on my alt and due to trouble with Tribble (lol, pun intended), I'll have it on there in about five days.
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The NPC's I was just shooting just paused mid firing on ground for 5 seconds with the phaser beam stuck in mid air until they unlagged out. 5mins later I an out a building only to rubberband back inside.
I have given up running HSE as 100% of the time the entire group over many runs have ran into problems. That's server lag right there.
1. a different PC,
2. is in a different location,
3. different timezones,
4. Different Countries
5. multiple ISP's and different broadband speeds being used
But all have one thing in common Lag/rubberbanding/game freezing/snr and powertray misfires
Yet others dismiss it as I have no issues so it must be your end.
I've heard this tinpot argument before where in the past we had misfiring powertrays in space and people were saying its user end problems but was proven to be Cryptic's fault due to poor optimisation of powers being used.
When Agents of Yesterday dropped some players myself included could play every part of the game except the Dyson Ground Battlezone which was causing random memory spikes and crashing the game to desktop. And what was I told ? its your end, your PC but guess what it was proven once again to be a Cryptic coding issue.
If you are not having lag/rubberbanding/powertray misfires/game freezes/snr issues at all great you're the luckiest people on the planet. But do not dismiss the people reporting issues here, in game, on other forums or social media and saying it is a fault at thier end.
This i'm all right jack who cares what issue you are having attitude doesn't help anyone.
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
Hem well I thought South DAKOTA is closer to California then Pennsylvania oh wait it is so your closer to the servers so no YOU BACK OFF!
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2) Physical distance is not entirely meaningful on the internet. Data is transmitted through several different nodes, which bear logical relation to each other, not necessarily physical relation. As has been noted, most of the delay recently appears to have to do with Akamai Technologies and their anti-DDoS software, which in my opinion appears to be mistaking MMO traffic for a DDoS attack.
Emotions have their place - but seldom is that place "in a discussion of computer technology".
Even though I haven't suffered it as much as you & others have stated experience-wise I do agree it has gotten worse, noticeably, over the last few months just not unplayable, for me, except that one time. Hopefully Cryptic will address it & can fix it or make it smoother.
My route trace placed the servers in California. Don't know where you get Massachusetts from. The only thing routed through Boston was Cogent.
That's not what my route trace said. It came up with Cryptic's offices in California. Could be that a different route is taken for UK/EU traffic, but it makes no sense for Cryptic's servers to be in Massachussetts.