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ayexeyenayexeyen Member Posts: 230 Arc User
Hello. Yesterday I completed the Crystalline TFO event twice with 2 different characters. By chance I got the first place in both cases.
Usually there is a price for the first place, 2 very rare objects Mk XII.
I received four, each time. Is this a bug or the reward has been improved?
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  • rndfluctuation#1470 rndfluctuation Member Posts: 813 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    I declare it happened to me (on Ethelene) though since I am not used to getting 1st place (am a bad player) I didn't realize it was different that it should have been and only noticed the clutter in inv and distributed those elsewhere already... (to chars which had more place)

    It was at least 4 rewards, vr all IIRC, yes.
  • whiteknight1xwhiteknight1x Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    It happen to me too.
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,333 Arc User
    Thank you for reporting something beneficial to the playerbase, potentially getting it fixed and ruining it for everyone else. The items you recieve are virtually worthless for anything other than salvage.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Well, maybe because it is now a 'Featured' TFO which has extra mechanics (stupid static that did not even show up in my run last night).
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  • ayexeyenayexeyen Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    westx211 wrote: »
    Thank you for reporting something beneficial to the playerbase, potentially getting it fixed and ruining it for everyone else. The items you recieve are virtually worthless for anything other than salvage.

    You welcome. You know, there are people that prefer honesty over personal gain. Moreover we don't know the extend of such bug, it may affect parts of the game we don't know.
    Not only hidden mechanics may be broken but the overall balance of the game may be compromised.
    Always report a bug, even if it is "beneficial".
  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    Today I won both 2nd and 3rd place (I mean on one character in one TFO). No idea how. Each awarded a MK X gear piece (purple and blue, respectively).

    No idea what's with two places simultaneously, though. Seems something is wonky with it.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    The system is rebelling against Cryptic for deleting all those TFO 'Tokens' unceremoniously and without compensation. ;)

    It's its way of trying to make it up.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    I also got a blue and purple reward when I did it this morning. Was kind of confusing.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,333 Arc User
    ayexeyen wrote: »
    westx211 wrote: »
    Thank you for reporting something beneficial to the playerbase, potentially getting it fixed and ruining it for everyone else. The items you recieve are virtually worthless for anything other than salvage.

    You welcome. You know, there are people that prefer honesty over personal gain. Moreover we don't know the extend of such bug, it may affect parts of the game we don't know.
    Not only hidden mechanics may be broken but the overall balance of the game may be compromised.
    Always report a bug, even if it is "beneficial".

    I can't possibly disagree more. This isn't a case of honesty, since nothing is improved by you being honest in fact, if anything the experience of other players is negatively impacted by your decision.
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  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    westx211 wrote: »
    ayexeyen wrote: »
    westx211 wrote: »
    Thank you for reporting something beneficial to the playerbase, potentially getting it fixed and ruining it for everyone else. The items you recieve are virtually worthless for anything other than salvage.

    You welcome. You know, there are people that prefer honesty over personal gain. Moreover we don't know the extend of such bug, it may affect parts of the game we don't know.
    Not only hidden mechanics may be broken but the overall balance of the game may be compromised.
    Always report a bug, even if it is "beneficial".

    I can't possibly disagree more. This isn't a case of honesty, since nothing is improved by you being honest in fact, if anything the experience of other players is negatively impacted by your decision.

    The experience of other players will be fine without bugged double rewards. Heck, the experience of other players would be fine without the gear rewards at all. You said it yourself, they are virtually worthless. Nothing needs to be improved by people being honest, as it is its own reward, or so the saying goes. A bug being removed, even one that benefits the player, is an improvement, though, so that also doesn't apply.

    There is all kinds of weirdness in those rewards right now. You can get a normal single reward for Third place sometimes, or a double Third place, or a Third place and a Second place, or a double Second place. I haven't seen a single Second place reward, or gotten a First place to see if there's a version that's single or a version that's First and Second place together.
    ltminns wrote: »
    The system is rebelling against Cryptic for deleting all those TFO 'Tokens' unceremoniously and without compensation. ;)

    It's its way of trying to make it up.

    By the way, I didn't say it in the announcement thread, but I actually agree with you that there should have been some kind of conversion for old vouchers that were deprecated, even if it was just to convert them into the new vouchers. The work was done to earn them, so it would have only been fair.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    I got third place last night and no other place. So apparently for me it was ok. Usually I don't place any place in the TFO. Also, a bug is a bug is a bug. The point is something is not working properly and needs to be fixed.
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  • mechaczmechacz Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Same here. On one toon i was 2nd and then 3rd in one TFO.
    Then on another two, 1st place, got double reward.

    Edit: screenshot https://imgur.com/4N0sTVV
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I got Third Place on all four runs in Advanced last night. One time the award listed Third Place twice and I got two different Rare Items.
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    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Yesterday, I got the bug that a person was talking about and got third place twice in the Crystalline Cataclysm TFO.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    Last night, got third place again but not twice on that run like the previous night.
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  • tazurensavulentazurensavulen Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    I wonder if there was an update where it looks at your place on the team and the place in the instance. That is the only thing I can think of that would be what is causing it.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,401 Arc User
    guljarol wrote: »
    Today I won both 2nd and 3rd place (I mean on one character in one TFO). No idea how. Each awarded a MK X gear piece (purple and blue, respectively).

    No idea what's with two places simultaneously, though. Seems something is wonky with it.
    there's several metrics you can qualify in so it's possible you ended 2nd in one and 3rd in another (for example damage and healing).

    Though previously it showed only the "best" so it might be bugged so that it's showing all your rankings and rewarding for them rather then just the best.
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    Last night, I got third place twice again. So this must be a situational bug not sure how it is happening. It still needs to be fixed though.
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  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Not sure why you guys are so hard on fixing it? It's not like the loot is anything worth other then salvage or whatever the replicator will give you for it.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    A bug is a bug is a bug.
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    Having run it now numerous times, and "placing" almost every time, I have yet to receive a "single" reward. 1st place always lists twice, with a total of 4 items given, 2nd and 3rd almost always list twice, with 2 items awarded, and the "almost a;ways" is due to a few times giving a 2nd place and a 3rd place at the same time.

    It can't be just a double reward bug or it would always award the same "place" twice. Receiving both a 2nd place and 3rd place simultaneously suggests that it is looking at 2 different metrics, with me (and others) placing 2nd based on one metric and 3rd based on the other. One metric of course being the standard DPS with the other being ???

    Sheer speculation, maybe the devs are experimenting with being able to track something other than just DPS, like maybe healing as someone suggested, so that players acting as tanks/healers are no longer "penalized" for not being DPS chasers ?

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  • tazurensavulentazurensavulen Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    arionisa wrote: »
    Having run it now numerous times, and "placing" almost every time, I have yet to receive a "single" reward. 1st place always lists twice, with a total of 4 items given, 2nd and 3rd almost always list twice, with 2 items awarded, and the "almost a;ways" is due to a few times giving a 2nd place and a 3rd place at the same time.

    It can't be just a double reward bug or it would always award the same "place" twice. Receiving both a 2nd place and 3rd place simultaneously suggests that it is looking at 2 different metrics, with me (and others) placing 2nd based on one metric and 3rd based on the other. One metric of course being the standard DPS with the other being ???

    Sheer speculation, maybe the devs are experimenting with being able to track something other than just DPS, like maybe healing as someone suggested, so that players acting as tanks/healers are no longer "penalized" for not being DPS chasers ?

    I have gotten double placements without healing. I think it is just Team and Instance placement.
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    AHAHAHA! Eat it Borg!
    [09/15 11:01] [Combat (Self)] You lose 12187085 Cold Damage from Death.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    Last night got third place twice again.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    Yes, from time to time, it rewards 2 items, 3 place once, 2 ítems, then 3 place again, only 1 item.. it's not always
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I got that double Third Place again last night.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    Last night got third place twice again.
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  • borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    Here's how it's bugged/how it works:

    I assume that the bug calculates you for each team so instead of the reward of your team, you get rewards from both teams entering.

    So basically, if you get a 1st place, you get 4 items instead of 2.

    It may happen that you get a 2nd and a 3rd place, meaning that in a team you were considered 2nd and in the other 3rd.
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Last night got second place twice.
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  • lexers615#4253 lexers615 Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited June 2019
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,029 Arc User
    We are not arguing. I am stating what is happening to me. Also, Cryptic does read these. Got third place twice again last night.
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