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Landry's Hair

commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Give please. No reason not to. The hair available to players in this game largely SUCKS.

Also please give us all the other NPC hair we are missing.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    I approve of this suggestion.

    Note that it's been mentioned in the past that some looks (hair, costumes, etc.) aren't added to the tailor because the artists only made them work for one specific NPC body, so there would be clipping or other visual badness when used for different body sizes, head sizes and shapes, features of other races like ridges.

    I still think it's worth the effort, because a major attraction of STO is being able to create your own captain and bridge officers, your way.

    When I tried out Neverwinter, one of my first disappointments was how the companions use fixed models and costumes.
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    I approve of this suggestion.

    Note that it's been mentioned in the past that some looks (hair, costumes, etc.) aren't added to the tailor because the artists only made them work for one specific NPC body

    Yeah well maybe they should direct some of their dev time away from removing content to throw us a bone?

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Note that it's been mentioned in the past that some looks (hair, costumes, etc.) aren't added to the tailor because the artists only made them work for one specific NPC body, so there would be clipping or other visual badness when used for different body sizes, head sizes and shapes, features of other races like ridges.
    Or rather, the artists made them a built in part of that one specific NPC model so there is nothing to add to the tailor in the first place.

    Although in a game like STO, I have to question the wisdom of constantly making stuff like hair specifically for single NPCs. If they made them normal tailor parts in the first place, they could sell them to players for extra profit. There is a long standing lack of new hairstyles in the game.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Where's Martok's hair?​​
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    Where's Martok's hair?​​

    Seconded. I want Martok's hair!
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    warpangel wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Note that it's been mentioned in the past that some looks (hair, costumes, etc.) aren't added to the tailor because the artists only made them work for one specific NPC body, so there would be clipping or other visual badness when used for different body sizes, head sizes and shapes, features of other races like ridges.
    Or rather, the artists made them a built in part of that one specific NPC model so there is nothing to add to the tailor in the first place.

    Although in a game like STO, I have to question the wisdom of constantly making stuff like hair specifically for single NPCs. If they made them normal tailor parts in the first place, they could sell them to players for extra profit. There is a long standing lack of new hairstyles in the game.

    Yes, and they could also use them to add more variety in NPCs in later story episodes.

    They save time up front, but lose out in the long run.

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Just as long as they don't give us the hair types used by the lazy Romulans in the Staging area. To much afking as it is. :)
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Just as long as they don't give us the hair types used by the lazy Romulans in the Staging area. To much afking as it is. :)

    :)

    That makes me think it would be fun to have a set of macros to post those motivational speeches we give to the lazy Rs in chat, during a TFO :)

    (Except no one reads chat, and those who do probably wouldn't get the joke.)
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,664 Arc User
    Yep. Heck, even a latinum store where you can buy hairs and various outfits (I WANT THE TOS ROMULAN THIGH BOOTS, THEY GOT NICE HEELS B) )

    Will give latuinum more use
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Note that it's been mentioned in the past that some looks (hair, costumes, etc.) aren't added to the tailor because the artists only made them work for one specific NPC body, so there would be clipping or other visual badness when used for different body sizes, head sizes and shapes, features of other races like ridges.
    Or rather, the artists made them a built in part of that one specific NPC model so there is nothing to add to the tailor in the first place.

    Although in a game like STO, I have to question the wisdom of constantly making stuff like hair specifically for single NPCs. If they made them normal tailor parts in the first place, they could sell them to players for extra profit. There is a long standing lack of new hairstyles in the game.
    Apparently customizable parts are harder and more time consuming, than non-customizable.
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  • jamieblanchardjamieblanchard Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    It's well past time for more hair options. Totally support.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    smokebailey wrote: »
    Yep. Heck, even a latinum store where you can buy hairs and various outfits (I WANT THE TOS ROMULAN THIGH BOOTS, THEY GOT NICE HEELS B) )
    TOS romulan outfit is in the C-Store.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    I think somke wants to use them on Non Romulans.

    Also I support the idea of putting some cosmetics available for GPL. Hell... transfer the current DL outfits into a GPL store. I wouldn't even mind paying 1 mil GPL for one of those!
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,664 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    smokebailey wrote: »
    Yep. Heck, even a latinum store where you can buy hairs and various outfits (I WANT THE TOS ROMULAN THIGH BOOTS, THEY GOT NICE HEELS B) )
    TOS romulan outfit is in the C-Store.

    As Rattler said, look at TOS Romulan NPCs' in the quests and pves. The thigh boots have prominent, chunky heels. The TOS Klingon girls have em too.

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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,114 Arc User
    While I agree with "more hair please" - especially for Klingons and other dread-full races - I strongly disagree that the available options largely suck. There is a lot of nice choices in there, and every so often new ones get added.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    They did mention on the livestream tonight that they are working on updating and adding new hair.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    They did mention on the livestream tonight that they are working on updating and adding new hair.

    YES! THANK YOU! More options are better and always welcome!
    After all... Space Barbie is the true endgame. Even AmbassadorKael has said that. :D
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    No lice!! ;)
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    smokebailey wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    smokebailey wrote: »
    Yep. Heck, even a latinum store where you can buy hairs and various outfits (I WANT THE TOS ROMULAN THIGH BOOTS, THEY GOT NICE HEELS B) )
    TOS romulan outfit is in the C-Store.
    As Rattler said, look at TOS Romulan NPCs' in the quests and pves. The thigh boots have prominent, chunky heels. The TOS Klingon girls have em too.
    You mean these boots?
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    They did mention on the livestream tonight that they are working on updating and adding new hair.
    Oh NICE! That'll be fun to try out. Did they give a hint as to when, or was it just a note that it's in the works?
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    No timeline given. Just as they can.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    Cool, good at the very least to know they're looking at it :smile:
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Doff Binding is more important, frankly.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Doff Binding is more important, frankly.

    Artists and coders: usually not the same people.

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    I do know that.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    markhawkman wrote: »
    smokebailey wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    smokebailey wrote: »
    Yep. Heck, even a latinum store where you can buy hairs and various outfits (I WANT THE TOS ROMULAN THIGH BOOTS, THEY GOT NICE HEELS B) )
    TOS romulan outfit is in the C-Store.
    As Rattler said, look at TOS Romulan NPCs' in the quests and pves. The thigh boots have prominent, chunky heels. The TOS Klingon girls have em too.
    You mean these boots?

    There's only 2 issues I have with the TOS Romulan outfits in the game.
    1. The sleeves don't come out to loop with the thumbs like they did in the TV show. Compare your STO picture with this:
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    Compare the promotional pictures of the uniform for the LOR pack.
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    Another of the promotional pictures, you can see the extended sleeve on the female.
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    But that's not possible in game.

    2. My last problem is we don't have the color palette for the vibrant colors the NPCs use.

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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    Ummmm... This thread is not about costumes.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    The way hair is portrayed is often highly dependent on its interactions with costumes.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,664 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    smokebailey wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    smokebailey wrote: »
    Yep. Heck, even a latinum store where you can buy hairs and various outfits (I WANT THE TOS ROMULAN THIGH BOOTS, THEY GOT NICE HEELS B) )
    TOS romulan outfit is in the C-Store.
    As Rattler said, look at TOS Romulan NPCs' in the quests and pves. The thigh boots have prominent, chunky heels. The TOS Klingon girls have em too.
    You mean these boots?

    There's only 2 issues I have with the TOS Romulan outfits in the game.
    1. The sleeves don't come out to loop with the thumbs like they did in the TV show. Compare your STO picture with this:
    Cr2dpDlUEAAE6fR.jpg
    Compare the promotional pictures of the uniform for the LOR pack.
    db13d4938eeceaebd3109ef351921abc1388707944.png
    Another of the promotional pictures, you can see the extended sleeve on the female.
    fb5c02fdb4bf664a154b2c8a78f5aea01367348194.jpg
    But that's not possible in game.

    2. My last problem is we don't have the color palette for the vibrant colors the NPCs use.

    No, look at the Romulan girls in the quest, for example, with Galordan Core. Be it the Romulans or the holo disguises, their thigh boots look a lot different from the c store ones. The heels are much higher, and chunkier. They also are more sleeker.

    Check it out next time you play that story. The TOS Klingon girls have 'em as well.
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