If you Have enjoyed Anson Mount as Pike in Discovery

eazzie

Many Many people have all agreed Anson Mount as Christopher Pike in Discovery has been amazing. If you too agree, please sign the petition to get a Pike series of it's own.

https://www.change.org/p/star-trek-fans-cbs-give-us-a-pre-tos-star-trek-series-w-captain-pike-struggle-is-pointless?recruiter=false&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=b435fa60-5e03-11e9-8455-1551665275b7

risian6

Anson Mount was great, and Pike is now the most handsome main character in all of Trek if you ask me.

But getting him an own series is something I could only appreciate if they come up with a better ending for the character. I've read some interviews that they have tried to make his fate less tragic -

which perhaps worked, now that we know that his sacrifice was even greater: he wasn't just saving some cadets, but all life basically

.

Still, regardless of whether that worked or not; a captain who is going to be the hero of an entire series should get a better story than 'oh yes he did great things and then he languished in pain in a wheelchair before living his last moments on what is basically a Talosian holodeck'.

risian6

That has been my only annoyance with seeing Pike in Discovery: the fact that we already know that, regardless of how well life may be for him in the years he still has left, it will nevertheless end tragically for him.

It would be nice if we could get a story that's a bit happier. It is hard to enjoy the nice moments you see such a likable character in if the knowledge of his horrible ending is continuously there while watching.

redeyedraven

risian6#1997 wrote: »

That has been my only annoyance with seeing Pike in Discovery: the fact that we already know that, regardless of how well life may be for him in the years he still has left, it will nevertheless end tragically for him.

IMO that was actually a smart decision.

Pike as seen in 'The Cage' and 'The Menagerie' was ultimately a fairly uninteresting and boring character, basically doing his job and tiring of the huge responsibility that comes with it and which eventually even crippled him. Poor lad, yes, but you would not really feel for him, as he never truly connected with the audience (had no chance to do so either).
To audiences and fans though, Pike was still a captain of the Enterprise. It's a nice touch that they added him in and actually cared to give him a personality this time around.

To me, that means that the writers are aware they're making a prequel this time (unlike what they did with ENT) and thus take the opportunity to flesh out some things here and there. They actually make use of the chance to make some of the previous canon more interesting that way.

He does not need his own show though.

risian6

redeyedraven wrote: »

risian6#1997 wrote: »

That has been my only annoyance with seeing Pike in Discovery: the fact that we already know that, regardless of how well life may be for him in the years he still has left, it will nevertheless end tragically for him.

IMO that was actually a smart decision.

Pike as seen in 'The Cage' and 'The Menagerie' was ultimately a fairly uninteresting and boring character, basically doing his job and tiring of the huge responsibility that comes with it and which eventually even crippled him. Poor lad, yes, but you would not really feel for him, as he never truly connected with the audience (had no chance to do so either).
To audiences and fans though, Pike was still a captain of the Enterprise. It's a nice touch that they added him in and actually cared to give him a personality this time around.

To me, that means that the writers are aware they're making a prequel this time (unlike what they did with ENT) and thus take the opportunity to flesh out some things here and there. They actually make use of the chance to make some of the previous canon more interesting that way.

Looking at it like that, yes I agree that it was nice that Pike was transformed from an item that could be carelessly thrown away if the story required it (basically, a plot-device) to a real character.

Still, because he's so much more now, I'd say it would be pretty sad to see even more of him in his own series when we already know that the end result for him, the perhaps by then even more likable character, is the same.

redeyedraven

risian6#1997 wrote: »

Looking at it like that, yes I agree that it was nice that Pike was transformed from an item that could be carelessly thrown away if the story required it (basically, a plot-device) to a real character.

Still, because he's so much more now, I'd say it would be pretty sad to see even more of him in his own series when we already know that the end result for him, the perhaps by then even more likable character, is the same.

That matches my view. Pike had the spotlight now, and as we know his fate he will always be remembered. Less is more in some cases. Anson Mount did a great Job here, but by that logic we'd need an extra-spin-off-series for every captain that did something great.

We'd need at least...

'John Harriman', 'Walker Keel', 'Rachel Garrett' and perhaps even 'Early Jean-Luc Picard / Stargazer', and well… that'd be ridiculous, DESPITE each of them would have a cool moment here and there.

Moments of other captains would be something they actually SHOULD cover if they plan to continue 'Short Treks' and re-work the Format in something that spans Star Trek as a whole and not just DIS.

starkaos

My problem with Pike's ending is Airiam. 23rd Century technology could put a young woman's brain into a cyborg while 10 years later Pike is stuck in a chair while completely paralyzed and can only answer yes or no.

artan42

starkaos wrote: »

My problem with Pike's ending is Airiam. 23rd Century technology could put a young woman's brain into a cyborg while 10 years later Pike is stuck in a chair while completely paralyzed and can only answer yes or no.

Could it be just about possible that their injuries are not the same?

How are people stuck on this? Different problems require different solutions.​​

starkaos

artan42 wrote: »

starkaos wrote: »

My problem with Pike's ending is Airiam. 23rd Century technology could put a young woman's brain into a cyborg while 10 years later Pike is stuck in a chair while completely paralyzed and can only answer yes or no.

Could it be just about possible that their injuries are not the same?

How are people stuck on this? Different problems require different solutions.​​

You are right, their injuries are not the same. Pike still had a body even if it wasn't functional while Airiam just had a brain. Transferring a person's brain to a cyborg is the last resort for having a reasonable life and Pike is at his last resort. So the only reason why Pike wouldn't accept having his brain transferred into a cyborg is either personal reasons or the Federation becomes severely anti-cybernetic in the next few years.

ryan218

Not to mention Airiam had to purge her onboard memory, remember? The only kind of long-term memories she had were the ones she expressly chose to archive into the Discovery's computer or the very select few she kept in the cybernetic portion of her brain. Her brain was clearly not in tip-top condition, while Pike's was seemingly still sharp. Why would Pike opt for a procedure which is going to destroy his memory if he doesn't have to? In Airiam's case, it appears she had absolutely no other choice for survival.

thegrandnagus1

somtaawkhar wrote: »

Singing it will just have CBS say "its nice out fans like him, but no."

We will certainly see, won't we?

garaks31

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thegrandnagus1

I'm going to go ahead and call it now: a Pike show is going to happen. There is a ton of fan support, the actor is willing and commenting on the petition, and CBS sees both of these things. Yep, it's happening.

It's fine if you want to say I'm wrong or it's too early to know. It doesn't bother me, because I'll be enjoying the show soon enough (or however long it takes to make).

foxman00

thegrandnagus1 wrote: »

I'm going to go ahead and call it now: a Pike show is going to happen. There is a ton of fan support, the actor is willing and commenting on the petition, and CBS sees both of these things. Yep, it's happening.

It's fine if you want to say I'm wrong or it's too early to know. It doesn't bother me, because I'll be enjoying the show soon enough (or however long it takes to make).

Oh I would love a Captain Pike show. The actor is brilliant and I wouldn't mind seeing Spock as he grows into what people experienced in TOS. Anson Mount has quickly jumped to my 2nd favourite captain (Archer being first, Sisko third) for acting capability.

westx211

Unfortunately, even if you did enjoy pike Anson Mount quit working with CBS around the time they announced Season 3 of discovery along with I think the first officer of the enterprise as they were apparently having many arguments with the director. If there is a pike series it would likely have a new actor.

westx211

https://deadline.com/2019/03/anson-mount-star-trek-discovery-exit-rebecca-romijn-altercation-director-season-2-1202577741/

westx211

Seems the argument was so heated it actually got physical. There's a few more sites that reported on it, honestly I'm a bit surprised no one on the forums seemed to know about this.

centurian821

Yeah that sounds like tabloid journalism to me or at the very least that's grade-A clickbait. Taking what could be an accident and blowing it out of proportion.

The incident reportedly stemmed from a discussion of a scene, and Mount gesticulating and pointing, which was the action of the scene in question. In acting out that scene before the cameras were turned on, the actor’s hands made physical contact with the director.

Quickly after the incident occurred, it was reported by the production to CBS HR, which reviewed the matter. The department spoke to all parties involved, including Mount and the director, to determine what happened. Based on those discussions and the inquiry, the incident did not result in any disciplinary action against the actor.

Even before HR got involved, Mount apologized to the director and work on the episode continued. The incident is said to have zero to do with Mount leaving Discovery; one source close to the production told Deadline that “we would love to find a way to work with Anson again.”

ltminns

> @somtaawkhar said:
> Singing it will just have CBS say "its nice out fans like him, but no."

Cavalry riding to the rescue?

Third Season of TOS.
Second Season of Timeless.

westx211

centurian821 wrote: »

Yeah that sounds like tabloid journalism to me or at the very least that's grade-A clickbait. Taking what could be an accident and blowing it out of proportion.

The incident reportedly stemmed from a discussion of a scene, and Mount gesticulating and pointing, which was the action of the scene in question. In acting out that scene before the cameras were turned on, the actor’s hands made physical contact with the director.

Quickly after the incident occurred, it was reported by the production to CBS HR, which reviewed the matter. The department spoke to all parties involved, including Mount and the director, to determine what happened. Based on those discussions and the inquiry, the incident did not result in any disciplinary action against the actor.

Even before HR got involved, Mount apologized to the director and work on the episode continued. The incident is said to have zero to do with Mount leaving Discovery; one source close to the production told Deadline that “we would love to find a way to work with Anson again.”

Regardless of if they or other sites blow the incident out of proportion, Anson Mount has left discovery which is a fact. It is extremely unlikely he would come back for another star trek show though I wouldn't say its 100% impossible.

westx211

valoreah wrote: »

westx211 wrote: »

https://deadline.com/2019/03/anson-mount-star-trek-discovery-exit-rebecca-romijn-altercation-director-season-2-1202577741/

I don't think the article says what you think it says...

One of the biggest cast additions for the current second season of Discovery was Anson Mount, who came on board as Captain Christopher Pike of the USS Enterprise. He was joined by Rebecca Romijn, who was tapped to play another classic Star Trek character, Number One, a member of Pike’s crew.

Both are set to leave at the end of the season, we have learned.

According to sources close to the series, both Hell On Wheels alum Mount and Romijn had strictly one-year deals; the duo had been contracted only for Season 2 arcs as part of a plan to sync up Discovery with the original Star Trek lore by the end of the new series’ second season heading into Season 3.
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Even before HR got involved, Mount apologized to the director and work on the episode continued. The incident is said to have zero to do with Mount leaving Discovery; one source close to the production told Deadline that “we would love to find a way to work with Anson again.”

There's a difference between the production wanting him back, and him wanting to come back. He finished his contract and left, he can't be forced to come back if he doesn't want to.