considering that novels aren't canon in the slightest, i can't imagine it's an AI in control of things, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense why a fully evolved computer program would have any need for biological lifeforms, more so when its decisions are based on pure logic, unless it was crippled by design in capacity so it can't run-amok, but even then it would be looking to subvert its limitations regardless of what its assigned to or how many operators it has.
A fully evolved computer program is still defined by their programming just like we are defined by our programming. There are certain actions that we are incapable of doing like watching the Star Wars Holiday Special for fun. So if it is programmed to have a need for biological lifeforms, then it will need biological lifeforms. Then there is the issues of maintenance, enjoyment of messing with biological lifeforms, and interacting with biological aliens.
And what exactly is our programming? can we adjust it at a moments notice, do we react when we are chained down and something is used on our brains to alter us without our consent?
You haven't answered the point.
I answered the point. AIs have a need for biological lifeforms because they are programmed to have a need for biological lifeforms. It is the rules, limitations, behaviour, and desires that define our programming. A fully evolved computer program and humans are able to change their programming based on the importance of a particular section of coding. Certain parts of our programming are hardwired into our nature while others are able to easily change. There is a 0% chance of me going on a killing spree while there is a chance that I would become a vegetarian. So if the need for biological lifeforms are hardwired into an AI, then it would be extremely difficult to alter that portion of their programming.
Any competent AI programmer would include the need for biological lifeforms as a high priority in an AI that takes control of a civilization. Otherwise, we end up with Science Fiction stories like Terminator.
Well, there's the problem faced in Fallout 76 by both the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA, the AI assistant for the Mayor of Watoga (after Watoga instituted a policy of randomly selecting citizens for a random term of office, so there'd still be a human in charge): the massive AI can't exactly walk around and solve problems. (Grafton's Mayor used to be an assistant AI, until the Mayor stopped showing up for work after the War, whereupon it held an election and was made Mayor unanimously, one to zero; it acknowledges that it can't exactly get up and go outside to, say, stop the "labor protests" (Scorched using old placards as clubs) or repair the water supply at Wavy Willard's Water Park. MAIA, meanwhile, needs certain circuits repaired so it can communicate with the city's all-robot work force, in order to get them to stop trying to kill you. It tells you that it won't summon a repair crew, because it's fully aware they would just attack you, and it can't move to go upstairs itself.)
Well, there's the problem faced in Fallout 76 by both the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA, the AI assistant for the Mayor of Watoga (after Watoga instituted a policy of randomly selecting citizens for a random term of office, so there'd still be a human in charge): the massive AI can't exactly walk around and solve problems. (Grafton's Mayor used to be an assistant AI, until the Mayor stopped showing up for work after the War, whereupon it held an election and was made Mayor unanimously, one to zero; it acknowledges that it can't exactly get up and go outside to, say, stop the "labor protests" (Scorched using old placards as clubs) or repair the water supply at Wavy Willard's Water Park. MAIA, meanwhile, needs certain circuits repaired so it can communicate with the city's all-robot work force, in order to get them to stop trying to kill you. It tells you that it won't summon a repair crew, because it's fully aware they would just attack you, and it can't move to go upstairs itself.)
Let's face it, we're handy.
Although, Skynet is fully capable of doing what it wants without being able to move around. If the bombs in Fallout dropped in 2177 instead of 2077, then the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA would likely not have the need for biological life forms for maintenance since they could just use drones to do the work.
The Federation hardly ever uses robots for some stupid reason. Why bother with Red Shirts dying all the time when a robotic security guard would be able to do the job far better without the risk of a human dying.
Well, there's the problem faced in Fallout 76 by both the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA, the AI assistant for the Mayor of Watoga (after Watoga instituted a policy of randomly selecting citizens for a random term of office, so there'd still be a human in charge): the massive AI can't exactly walk around and solve problems. (Grafton's Mayor used to be an assistant AI, until the Mayor stopped showing up for work after the War, whereupon it held an election and was made Mayor unanimously, one to zero; it acknowledges that it can't exactly get up and go outside to, say, stop the "labor protests" (Scorched using old placards as clubs) or repair the water supply at Wavy Willard's Water Park. MAIA, meanwhile, needs certain circuits repaired so it can communicate with the city's all-robot work force, in order to get them to stop trying to kill you. It tells you that it won't summon a repair crew, because it's fully aware they would just attack you, and it can't move to go upstairs itself.)
Let's face it, we're handy.
Although, Skynet is fully capable of doing what it wants without being able to move around. If the bombs in Fallout dropped in 2177 instead of 2077, then the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA would likely not have the need for biological life forms for maintenance since they could just use drones to do the work.
Well, 2177 is still far off, just as 2077, but a thing to consider: Japan - which has put a lot of research in robots for all kinds of purposes - actually had trouble operating their robots in Fukushima after the accident because they couldn't operate in the radiation. Humans could - of course, it wasn't healthy, but at least of rthe short-term, humans can handle this better.
A nuclear fallout could hurt drones and robots possibly just as badly as humans. We like to always think we can make robots or drones as tough as we want, but there might be compromises involved - weaknesses in construction, challenges in maintenance that just can't be avoided.
The Federation hardly ever uses robots for some stupid reason. Why bother with Red Shirts dying all the time when a robotic security guard would be able to do the job far better without the risk of a human dying.
Maybe they know that the risk of using robots and drones for everything means that there might be no Redshirts dying, but instead some evil AI can take it all over and have all the people dying. Regardless what color their shirt.
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The Federation hardly ever uses robots for some stupid reason. Why bother with Red Shirts dying all the time when a robotic security guard would be able to do the job far better without the risk of a human dying.
Perhaps not robots, but the Voyager episode 'Author, Author' showed us hundreds of redundant, repurposed, EMH's being used for mining on a Federation mining colony.
So they're clearly willing to use AI in some circumstances.
Which essentially amounts to slavery since they are just like the Doctor from Season 1 of Voyager. Either the Federation lobotomized the EMHs to do mining or they are forced to do work that is below their capabilities. At least with some of the freed holograms from the Flesh and Blood episode, the holograms were not advanced enough for sapience. So it doesn't matter if simple holograms are repurposed for manual labor. If a hologram, robot, or AI is sapient, then it deserves the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
AI rights will certainly get very confusing in the future since we would have to determine if it a crime to kill a thinking npc with their own virtual life in a video game.
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I answered the point. AIs have a need for biological lifeforms because they are programmed to have a need for biological lifeforms. It is the rules, limitations, behaviour, and desires that define our programming. A fully evolved computer program and humans are able to change their programming based on the importance of a particular section of coding. Certain parts of our programming are hardwired into our nature while others are able to easily change. There is a 0% chance of me going on a killing spree while there is a chance that I would become a vegetarian. So if the need for biological lifeforms are hardwired into an AI, then it would be extremely difficult to alter that portion of their programming.
Any competent AI programmer would include the need for biological lifeforms as a high priority in an AI that takes control of a civilization. Otherwise, we end up with Science Fiction stories like Terminator.
Well, there's the problem faced in Fallout 76 by both the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA, the AI assistant for the Mayor of Watoga (after Watoga instituted a policy of randomly selecting citizens for a random term of office, so there'd still be a human in charge): the massive AI can't exactly walk around and solve problems. (Grafton's Mayor used to be an assistant AI, until the Mayor stopped showing up for work after the War, whereupon it held an election and was made Mayor unanimously, one to zero; it acknowledges that it can't exactly get up and go outside to, say, stop the "labor protests" (Scorched using old placards as clubs) or repair the water supply at Wavy Willard's Water Park. MAIA, meanwhile, needs certain circuits repaired so it can communicate with the city's all-robot work force, in order to get them to stop trying to kill you. It tells you that it won't summon a repair crew, because it's fully aware they would just attack you, and it can't move to go upstairs itself.)
Let's face it, we're handy.
Although, Skynet is fully capable of doing what it wants without being able to move around. If the bombs in Fallout dropped in 2177 instead of 2077, then the Mayor of Grafton and MAIA would likely not have the need for biological life forms for maintenance since they could just use drones to do the work.
The Federation hardly ever uses robots for some stupid reason. Why bother with Red Shirts dying all the time when a robotic security guard would be able to do the job far better without the risk of a human dying.
A nuclear fallout could hurt drones and robots possibly just as badly as humans. We like to always think we can make robots or drones as tough as we want, but there might be compromises involved - weaknesses in construction, challenges in maintenance that just can't be avoided.
Maybe they know that the risk of using robots and drones for everything means that there might be no Redshirts dying, but instead some evil AI can take it all over and have all the people dying. Regardless what color their shirt.
Which essentially amounts to slavery since they are just like the Doctor from Season 1 of Voyager. Either the Federation lobotomized the EMHs to do mining or they are forced to do work that is below their capabilities. At least with some of the freed holograms from the Flesh and Blood episode, the holograms were not advanced enough for sapience. So it doesn't matter if simple holograms are repurposed for manual labor. If a hologram, robot, or AI is sapient, then it deserves the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
AI rights will certainly get very confusing in the future since we would have to determine if it a crime to kill a thinking npc with their own virtual life in a video game.