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lapprenticel
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Another day another nerf request. 
This week's Endeavour is Gravity Kills. I'd run this before and had an inkling it was hard so chose the basic version instead of my usual choice which is advanced. Since I was running a toon with MK XIV Epic\Ultra Rare weapons, tactical consoles etc I expected to hit fairly hard. The others in my group were also level 65 toons, but I couldn't tell what their loadouts were like.
While the early stage seemed to go fairly smoothly we not only ran through the allotted mission time, we spent an additional 20 minutes! Any mission that take 30+ minutes is quite simply broken!
Yes I appreciate co-ordinated teams can complete the mission a lot quicker, and on harder settings, but PUGs are very different to teams. Seems like this needs a nerf if folk are supposed to play this again.
This week's Endeavour is Gravity Kills. I'd run this before and had an inkling it was hard so chose the basic version instead of my usual choice which is advanced. Since I was running a toon with MK XIV Epic\Ultra Rare weapons, tactical consoles etc I expected to hit fairly hard. The others in my group were also level 65 toons, but I couldn't tell what their loadouts were like.
While the early stage seemed to go fairly smoothly we not only ran through the allotted mission time, we spent an additional 20 minutes! Any mission that take 30+ minutes is quite simply broken!
Yes I appreciate co-ordinated teams can complete the mission a lot quicker, and on harder settings, but PUGs are very different to teams. Seems like this needs a nerf if folk are supposed to play this again.
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(unnecessary vulgarity removed) darkbladejk
All depends on the team here really. If peeps know what to do and play a bit aggressive the task gets done fast, the Juppiter gets not in danger and the aggro of the critters on map distributes evenly between the players.
I suggest OP you check out the Normal version of it when going for a full pug. Advanced only makes sense when at least parts of the group know what to do and for elite a good team is needed.
If you ask me it’s as things should be.
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Ok, there is no subtle way of saying this.. so I am not going to try. I'm sorry man, but the 'kid gloves' are coming off.
You are a bad player.
I know this just sounds like I am being mean and trying to insult you, but that's not it.. there is just no other way to make the point. You constantly call for nerfs to the game because YOU personally cannot succeed. It's selfish, shortsided and frankly.. pathetic. You are struggling because you're a bad player, that's all there is to it. There is no way to white wash it, and while I normally try to avoid calling people 'bad,' there is just no way around it in your case.
Stop calling for nerfs and get some help with your build and play style. Gravity Kills Advanced is not a hard queue.. at all. You are struggling because you don't know what you're doing and asking to punish the rest of the player base so that you don't have to learn something is selfish.
Suck it up and fix your own problems. If you want help, we're here.. we'll try and help.. but these constant calls to have everything dumbed down to your low level is an embarrassment and it's time it stopped.
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From what you've described it sounds like you just had a bad luck of the draw in terms of teammates. That's not the fault of the queue, it just means you had bad teammates which will happen from time to time in any game and with any system. There are various channels setup in game if you need help with queues.
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I think what makes people dislike it (and the Tzenkethi content in general) is that they are an enemy you need to actually think about how to defeat rather than just blasting away without a though with everything you have on your build.
(Sure those guys with the 200k+ builds will have no problems with that tactic, but hey, they don't have an issue with any content anyway so they are the outliers here.)
So a lot of people just expect to go in spam BFAW, GW or whatever their chosen trick is and think it'll win the day.But the Tzeks need some planning and thought to defeat; their flank shields are almost too tough to get through, their torps are lethal, they are immune when grouped up together.
So you have to use alternative tricks to get the better of them; going head-to-head, using TBR to split them up, ignore them and use fast movement to grab particles without being killed.
Honestly I rather enjoy the queue because I can play a different role each time if i chose. I can play the pinball wizard using TBR to clear the path for the escorts to grab particles. I can play the torp bomber nuking the station or the ships attacking the Jupiter. I can play the nippy escort using movement immunity to grab particles and get in/out without taking damage.
More queues need to be designed with more than just mindless shooting in mind. And players would do well to learn to play better than just expecting everything to die in seconds or call for nerfs if that doesn't work.
But on the other hand it hoovered up all the enemies from the stations so me and one other guy collected the particles pretty easily without any worry of getting shot.
Even managed to shove the dreadnought into the singularity without a bother as everyone was sucked into a big mass elsewhere, so not too bad really i guess.
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I did it on Advanced with my jemmy with the starter gear, and it went very smoothly just flying around the mobs picking particles most of the time.
One person dropped out after the Timer Optional was lost. I managed to deliver a couple of Hawking Particles but it seemed most of the time I picked one up I couldn't get my Ship to move much at all towards the Jupiter even at full.
I seemed to be a bit slow on the uptake on hitting the Warp out button to escape the Black Hole, blowing up all but one time after hitting the button (the last). I realized you have to hit it immediately after it appears for it to get you out of the jam.
I used the Protomatter Console quite a bit, both on myself and near the Jupiter.
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I also notice the OP hasn't come back in to address those comments directed at offering help or even calling them a bad player. Which I really have to agree with as it's said by someone I usually listen to and the others I take advice from who say it needs no nerfs.
It's sounding more like the OP is just trying to get a rise out of people and sitting back to see what kind of rise they get.
*looks at posts*
*finds no responses from OP*
Most likely.
ESPECIALLY with an opening line like:
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If they were serious they would have come back in to address the various posts directed at them. They're not.
If I have an issue I make sure that I visit the thread at least once a day, usually more. And I respond to helpful advice with thanks.
actually with how terrible my builds are I probably shouldn't be able to do that, even if it took a while and was only on normal.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
If you'd like some advice on how to improve your builds... just ask. There are several veteran players who would be willing to help. Some might even try and help hash out a build that fits your playstyle too.
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nah, I like my terrible builds and they work for what I need em to do, not interested in dps chasing or bragging rights. just good enough for story mission on normal and very rarely do an advance mission in a reasonable amount of time works for me.
besides I am very lazy. ;P
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
My builds are capable of handling most Advanced STFs relatively comfortably. Struggles with a few, but still pretty decent all around.
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I see so many dps players sacrificing hull and shields for dps getting blown up by jumping into the middle of enemy fire like they are tanks.
if you ask me the Borg need to be nerfed to be even more powerful at least 2 times more powerful then they are now in hull and shields, going into a Borg combat area and popping borg ships like balloons is not true to star trek, a borg ship even with all the new traits and consoles should be a challenge to take destroy and take a group effort of several players to take down.
To be fair, they are complaining about the shield draining of the Borg now. Even though that's canon and i enjoy that threat. But people complain "shields are useless now if i cant resist it with minimum effort, or fully specced" Well, in my opinion, sometimes there should be ships and abilities out there, that should be treated as high threat regardless of how well built your ship is