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I do as well! Regardless of how good or poor the stats of a ship are in this game. For PvE, It will easily do the job with some half decent gear. We are probably the minority though, which is why PWE seems content in releasing some of the ugliest ships that Star Trek has ever seen!
Fed Universe Class, those nacelles look like someone took microsoft paint and stretched out the bits (if that's not what actually happened). The saucer also has an optical illusion making it appear bent. Good thing Cryptic made the Valkis as an alternative for Roms, but I dislike the stats when it lacks enough sci consoles to power it, forcing it into a cruiser/carrier role.
Crossfield, excellent stats but only looks good from certain angles, which means it's a poor CBS design (IMO). It's a shame, it has something going for it, if only they reworked the proportions of existing shapes, and I also like the hollow circle in the saucer, like on the Scryer.
Dewan ships. Worst of the worst.
KDF Command Battlecruiser.
Qul'poH KDF temporal science destroyer.
Deleth Advanced Light Warbird Battlecruiser. I thought it looked good on release day, but in game I really dislike it.
Cardassian Intel Sci Dread.
Many KDF ships, too many to list, and it's not that the styling isn't appealing, it is, but they just fall short.
Zahl heavy cruiser, poor CBS design.
Na’kuhl Daemosh Science Vessel, the incessant engine sound doesn't help.
Doesn't bother me in the least as I have all the C-Store Ships.
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Ships too ugly to buy: The Jupiter. Not only is it aesthetically displeasing, with its unbalanced T-Rex Arm Nacelles, but the stats are rather bad, and, as a single-item ship offering nothing to the other f(r)actions, it has a very poor ship-to-Zen value. Not even a 30% off flash sale on this item ALONE was enough to get me to touch it.
This is how I roll also, which is why the winner winner (chicken dinner!) for this is the Jupiter: It's aesthetically displeasing AND of poor functionality. At least the Excelsior which I also passed on was merely dysfunctional rather than hideously ugly, because you can never really give a canonical ship too much flak for its looks no matter how it looks: It's not Cryptic's fault if it isn't to your taste, after all.
I wasn't all that fond of the Jupiter design for the longest time, and only recently it grew on me along with its stats to get it, and I can't stop flying it on my Fed-Sci Main and Tac-alt. It's like a science-y Odyssey. Yes it would be nice if they gave us the option to remove or modify the small warp nacelles.
Shield modifier: 1.375 for the fleet variant with 57,200 hull, shield-specific starship mastery & +10% hull hp means it can shield tank better than a cruiser and nearly as good as a Sci ship and still reach the diminishing returns of dmg res using consoles & traits. I built one with tetryons, energy & shield draining, and Aeon timeships, so any big ship that's the choice of focus gets melted real quick, especially if it's console pet focus fire is also off cool-down along with the other science captain buffs.
The other isn't fleet grade, on a Tac with I think AP and Scorpions, and it seems to do just as well surprisingly with the plasma torps everywhere and focused fire. They are also built to tank with hull & shields so manage to feel like zombies against anything so far.
As it's been said above, each to his own, but as far as i'm concerned, the least visually appealing ship in the C-Store has to be the Daedalus class. Now, i know it's supposed to be a somewhat antique design, but honestly, the whole ping-pong-ball-glued-on-milk-bottle design really isn't helping...
Now as far as performances go, i cannot pass judgement on it since i didn't buy it anyway. One thing is certain, though, i'd much rather fly a ship that i find visually appealing with average performances, rather than having to cope with some flying eyesore on the account of it being more efficient.
Fed Universe Class, those nacelles look like someone took microsoft paint and stretched out the bits (if that's not what actually happened).
Yeah, the fed Universe really is a blight on the system. It looks like a cartoon ship, flattened by a hammer, where you expect a bunny to pop up any time, with a pump, to inflate it again. *insert looney tunes here*
It was simply a very bad design. The optical illusion kinda works when put in a mission, where Cryptic can show it at predefined angles, so as to fake enormous size. But as a playable ship, it's a downright atrocity. And no, LOL, I'm not really going to call CBS about it, but wouldn't mind at all if they nixed future Cryptic design of this nature.
The Universe-Class in canon was literally a placeholder since there were only hours to the deadline and there had to be something. I am annoyed and impressed equally that they stood by it instead of remastering it.
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Meh, I'm more focused on performance than looks.
And some ships looks can be improved by kit-bashing (I think that's the term) in ships taylor - like the Romulan Command Warbirds.
That being said I really do not like the looks of the Breen designs - not symetrical, metalic grey monstrosities that looks like it was welded toogether from scrap. And while someone will tell me that symetrics are not important in space, here is my answer: The balance between center of mass of a ship and thrust variables and vectors is very important in space - Breen ships must waste much computational processing resources on balancing the drive… but their performance in-game is rather high - especially for carrier and dread ones.
Sort of. I won't buy an ugly ship period. And to me, that's most of the ships in the game.
But I do like some. For example- Fed side, the Connie, Excelsior, the command battlecruisers. I have a handful of Klingon, Romulan, and others too- but not many.
Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is ugly.
Quite a few ships that have been called ugly by some, I don't find ugly. About the only ships I would consider not pretty at all are the Breen ships, though they are also great performers and I fly the Rezreth and the Chel Boalg and my F2P flies the Chel Grett warship that she got from the Phoenix Box.
So if it performs and I can get it, then looks come secondary.
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I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
I think that is almost impossible, because sometimes, ugliness is the point.
However, based on that I own most C-Store ships and some lockbox/lobi ships, I think the price might go towards the Federation Dyson Science Destroyer. I have the KDF and ROM one, but never bought the FED one. (Yep, that makes me a pack breaker). Maybe I would have if there hadn't been the Vesta or Tier 6 ships at some point, though.
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For me its about 95% of all Cryptic designed ships. I dont know what their artists are smoking. lol The textures and colors all are great, but the hulls just dont flow or look like they belong in Trek.
I don't buy based on looks, but on how they work with my playstyle. But there is not any ship design I have seen that I would say is ugly. But some are better looking than others.
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Honestly I think the Nautilus has the better looking ship design out of all the temporal ships in the C-Store including the 31st century ships, the other temporal ships look like pancakes with nacelles and the 31st century ships look awfully generic.
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I don't know. When I look at the Starfleet ships all I see is the same coffee table that's been redesigned for the 1000th time.
Unless it the Galaxy class, especially the new one. Then all I see and think with it is.
I do as well! Regardless of how good or poor the stats of a ship are in this game. For PvE, It will easily do the job with some half decent gear. We are probably the minority though, which is why PWE seems content in releasing some of the ugliest ships that Star Trek has ever seen!
Crossfield, excellent stats but only looks good from certain angles, which means it's a poor CBS design (IMO). It's a shame, it has something going for it, if only they reworked the proportions of existing shapes, and I also like the hollow circle in the saucer, like on the Scryer.
Dewan ships. Worst of the worst.
KDF Command Battlecruiser.
Qul'poH KDF temporal science destroyer.
Deleth Advanced Light Warbird Battlecruiser. I thought it looked good on release day, but in game I really dislike it.
Cardassian Intel Sci Dread.
Many KDF ships, too many to list, and it's not that the styling isn't appealing, it is, but they just fall short.
Zahl heavy cruiser, poor CBS design.
Na’kuhl Daemosh Science Vessel, the incessant engine sound doesn't help.
Sphere Builder Edoulg Science Vessel.
Son'a Command Science Vessel.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I wasn't all that fond of the Jupiter design for the longest time, and only recently it grew on me along with its stats to get it, and I can't stop flying it on my Fed-Sci Main and Tac-alt. It's like a science-y Odyssey. Yes it would be nice if they gave us the option to remove or modify the small warp nacelles.
Shield modifier: 1.375 for the fleet variant with 57,200 hull, shield-specific starship mastery & +10% hull hp means it can shield tank better than a cruiser and nearly as good as a Sci ship and still reach the diminishing returns of dmg res using consoles & traits. I built one with tetryons, energy & shield draining, and Aeon timeships, so any big ship that's the choice of focus gets melted real quick, especially if it's console pet focus fire is also off cool-down along with the other science captain buffs.
The other isn't fleet grade, on a Tac with I think AP and Scorpions, and it seems to do just as well surprisingly with the plasma torps everywhere and focused fire. They are also built to tank with hull & shields so manage to feel like zombies against anything so far.
Now as far as performances go, i cannot pass judgement on it since i didn't buy it anyway. One thing is certain, though, i'd much rather fly a ship that i find visually appealing with average performances, rather than having to cope with some flying eyesore on the account of it being more efficient.
Yeah, the fed Universe really is a blight on the system. It looks like a cartoon ship, flattened by a hammer, where you expect a bunny to pop up any time, with a pump, to inflate it again. *insert looney tunes here*
It was simply a very bad design. The optical illusion kinda works when put in a mission, where Cryptic can show it at predefined angles, so as to fake enormous size. But as a playable ship, it's a downright atrocity. And no, LOL, I'm not really going to call CBS about it, but wouldn't mind at all if they nixed future Cryptic design of this nature.
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Not THAT design.
Agreed!
And some ships looks can be improved by kit-bashing (I think that's the term) in ships taylor - like the Romulan Command Warbirds.
That being said I really do not like the looks of the Breen designs - not symetrical, metalic grey monstrosities that looks like it was welded toogether from scrap. And while someone will tell me that symetrics are not important in space, here is my answer: The balance between center of mass of a ship and thrust variables and vectors is very important in space - Breen ships must waste much computational processing resources on balancing the drive… but their performance in-game is rather high - especially for carrier and dread ones.
Sort of. I won't buy an ugly ship period. And to me, that's most of the ships in the game.
But I do like some. For example- Fed side, the Connie, Excelsior, the command battlecruisers. I have a handful of Klingon, Romulan, and others too- but not many.
Quite a few ships that have been called ugly by some, I don't find ugly. About the only ships I would consider not pretty at all are the Breen ships, though they are also great performers and I fly the Rezreth and the Chel Boalg and my F2P flies the Chel Grett warship that she got from the Phoenix Box.
So if it performs and I can get it, then looks come secondary.
However, based on that I own most C-Store ships and some lockbox/lobi ships, I think the price might go towards the Federation Dyson Science Destroyer. I have the KDF and ROM one, but never bought the FED one. (Yep, that makes me a pack breaker). Maybe I would have if there hadn't been the Vesta or Tier 6 ships at some point, though.
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