> @bubblegirl2015 said: > IMO...I do hope they go back to the BORG episodes and make a redo. Why go back to the past with Iconians, Hurq or temporal wars is beyond me. The future IMO is the BORG since it does represent an evolution to what current civilizations have at that timeline.
Me too, the Borg have been very quiet too quiet. Must be time for another assault on earth.
I'd like to head to the mirror universe. I seen pictures of the mirror next generation characters in a comic and they look interesting. Data has a cannon arm and other bits, Geordi looks badass and Picard is roided out.
I'm actually reading that right now. Have been pretty impressed with it so far.
The one problem I have had with it I kind of came across this morning: The mirror universe always starts with everyone we know around but all out to kill each other, and each story shows one or more succeeding. Which begs the question: What were they doing for the decades before that particular story started? Logic would seem to suggest that almost all of the known characters we know would have been either the last survivors or dead because of all of the mortal backstabbing. It's like they froze the current team of people in a Star Trek series, transplanted them to the mirror universe and then hit play without once thinking that getting them to that point would have probably resulted in most of them having already killed each other.
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> @bubblegirl2015 said:
> IMO...I do hope they go back to the BORG episodes and make a redo. Why go back to the past with Iconians, Hurq or temporal wars is beyond me. The future IMO is the BORG since it does represent an evolution to what current civilizations have at that timeline.
Me too, the Borg have been very quiet too quiet. Must be time for another assault on earth.
I dunno constantly assaulting and failing to take earth you'd think the borg would adapt new tactics. perhaps instead attempt to get a foothold in the beta or alpha quadrant by attacking someone else first
I enjoy it when they add in voice talent done by previous Trek actors, but believe that what has gone on in the Tsenkethi arcs is more in line with what STO should be doing; charting its own path, but perhaps incorporating the actors of old in the process. Anything that Cryptic can get away with using within established Trek lore that also skews uniquely along the path that they are heading seems like a good thing to me.
If there was one thing to be culled from any of the spin-off Trek television series that might add something to Star Trek Online, for me it would be a better resolution over who (or what) "Future Guy" was in the Enterprise Temporal Cold War. Jonathan Archer never did discover who or what that entity was, which was an error on the part of the showrunners.
I enjoy it when they add in voice talent done by previous Trek actors, but believe that what has gone on in the Tsenkethi arcs is more in line with what STO should be doing; charting its own path, but perhaps incorporating the actors of old in the process. Anything that Cryptic can get away with using within established Trek lore that also skews uniquely along the path that they are heading seems like a good thing to me.
If there was one thing to be culled from any of the spin-off Trek television series that might add something to Star Trek Online, for me it would be a better resolution over who (or what) "Future Guy" was in the Enterprise Temporal Cold War. Jonathan Archer never did discover who or what that entity was, which was an error on the part of the showrunners.
the temperoal cold war was addressed pretty majorly
I dunno constantly assaulting and failing to take earth you'd think the borg would adapt new tactics. perhaps instead attempt to get a foothold in the beta or alpha quadrant by attacking someone else first
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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the future is never the past. no more Borg. no more dragging up the aliens from some terrible episode of whatever flavor star trek you don't like. It's time Cryptic got bold, just like Stargate did. we need an Atlantis analog.
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The Borg are honestly getting old. As I have said in the past, they're overused, and by STO's time period, everyone knows how to fight them effectively.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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the future is never the past. no more Borg. no more dragging up the aliens from some terrible episode of whatever flavor star trek you don't like. It's time Cryptic got bold, just like Stargate did. we need an Atlantis analog.
> @rattler2 said: > The Borg are honestly getting old. As I have said in the past, they're overused, and by STO's time period, everyone knows how to fight them effectively.
This is true. However the borg aren't the kind of loose end that you leave untied. Need an arc where we finish them off.
I'd Like to see the borg assimilate the remaining iconians (Omega particles are a big thing for the borg). Imagine borg powered iconians and having to team with T'ket to stop them. Borg powered iconians would stomp the galaxy.
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This is true. However the borg aren't the kind of loose end that you leave untied. Need an arc where we finish them off.
The problem with that is the SHEER SIZE of the territory controlled by the Borg probably makes the Dominion look small. Combine that with their decentralized nature... you'd have to basically exterminatus half the Delta Quadrant to make sure they are 100% defeated.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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The Borg trying ANYTHING against the Iconians would result in the most hilarious one sided fist fight, with the Iconians winning without breaking a sweat.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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I'd Like to see the borg assimilate the remaining iconians (Omega particles are a big thing for the borg). Imagine borg powered iconians and having to team with T'ket to stop them. Borg powered iconians would stomp the galaxy.
The Alliance had already overtaken the Borg in power before the Iconian War began, and the Iconians smoked the Alliance like it was pig.
The Borg trying ANYTHING against the Iconians would result in the most hilarious one sided fist fight, with the Iconians winning without breaking a sweat.
We've kinda seen that already in fact. One of the Romulan Republic missions has the player investigate a disabled Borg Cube... only to find out that it was disabled by an Iconian device.
The main issue right now is that literally every trope has been tried in STO and as such you will never be able to make everyone happy. As such I have always been more interested in refining ideas more the just creating a new bad guy of the season. For the service of the game, and the ST:V The Borg were hand waved away and the idea of an unstoppably doom machine was tossed.The Borg are not the only ones, the Iconians and now the Hur'q have gotten the same treatment. So its OK to reuse a bad guy as long as you do something with it.
With that in mind this is my overall outline, It’s a story in-service of underlying game changes I would like to see to improve the overall game.
Klingon Unification Wars
Under new leadership (and maybe some sort of future prophecy) the current Klingon houses would be torn down and a new Bushido style movement would emerge. During the Arc Qo'noS is wrecked, but at least has a new path and a brighter future.
Qo'noS revamp
KDF Academy revamp
KDF Space Station revamp
Klingon Renaissance
With the Unification Wars over the new KDF joins the FED, As Qo'noS recovers, old enemies (Remnants of the old House, Star Empire and Section 31, etc…) begin to conspire, and additional internal threats start to emerge. A new player choice emerges between the Popups Bureaucratic Alliance, or the Morally Flexible Conspirators. Players now choose their actions to gain favor with the new mechanic. Mission wise, the player is still playing the same missions, but structure changes to be more paragon/renegade in missions. Actions taken or not taken during the missions can lead to increased mission difficulty and gain/loss of respect in the factions
KDF/FED disbanded in favor of a unified STO community with a new paragon/renegade + bureaucracy/rebel mechanic + multi faction respect. (BTW it should be possible although difficult to be respected by all) Respect reduced the EC/DIl/Time cost of in game items.
Nimbus III would be Revamped, relocate Arena of Sompek to the Stronghold?
Fall Event (Halloween themed)
Borg Remnants
The Borg have returned with assimilated races. It is implied that Borg have been orchestrating all the major arcs before the events in STO by manipulating the timelines (The Temporal Cold War was a distraction) Even though this is arc, the arc should not contain “Borg specific Missions” rather all missions have the specter of the Borg. The Borg realizing that a direct assault was no longer effect, adapted and started to use subversion as a tactic. This also makes the Borg more than a one note villain, In fact anyone can be subverted by the Borg in this outline.
Existing Borg Queue get updated, Now One Cube is able to take on a team.
Delta Quadrant is expanded, with a much larger Borg presence.
New Quadrants events like the Hur'q. Final boss could be a full size V’Ger trench run like Mission: Breach,
Solanae Dyson Sphere revamp (one map)
Voth adventure revamp
Undine Battlezone revamp
Kobali adventure zone revamp
Borg Invasion of Defera revamp
Multi-Dimensional Temporal Mechanics
A new time war with Resurgence Borg threatens all quadrants. The only way to combat the threat is to cheat the timeline by allowing all the events in STO to happen.. A new mission might revolve around the events of a previous missions where you have to “save people” that were thought killed in the main storyline, So yeah all the previous episodes are still in play, revamped when necessary
Iconians are saved in the past, though the surviving main timeline Iconians still think they died. This group of Iconians with the help of the Solanae and splinted faction of the Tholians Assembly Secret the beginning of a new Temporal Fleet the long way around because they realize that the Borg from this universe if not stopped will begin the threaten the multiverse.
Mission to save Old Romulus and replace it right before its destruction
Missions to address some of the questionable destruction of the STO DOOM FLEETS!
All missions across all factions become accessible by all players though Temporal Intervention Missions. In these missions you assume whatever character/race to blend in with the timeline.
New Romulus revamp, (add spring event)
New Frontiers
Getting back to the basic of exploration
Procedurally generated missions, exploration. On the edges of the existing sector’s, Still deticated story miisions
Unified Sector map to System Maps. (i.e. go from Sector space directly into system map)
There are other things like dropping the current slots in favor of a simplify one weapon type per load out. making ship class really matter, I find it hilarious that an Enterprise-J is zipping around faster than my pilot ship, and yet my Pilot ship is doing way more DPS. Yeah I know wishful thinking.
Why wouldn't the FEDS join the KDF? Or why doesn't the KDF and the FEDS join the Roms?
Why is it always same one way thinking?
Seriously....you are asking for different....but doing the same darn thing!!!
Frankly, I really don't like the new revamped DS9...I keep crashing into doors and stairs...so I wouldn't want First city or anyplace else using the current style.
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na it’s all cool, I was just thinking of a way to orchestrate the dismantling of the KDF vs Fed to factions for fluid and that your player character is not locked into one path. If anything one could argue that it would be cool that each major faction (Fed, KDF, Rom, Dom, Icon, Voth, etc.. was tracked, and as a bonus to maxing out the rep with those factions, you obtain access to their space.
I know a lot of the limitations are both higher up bureaucracy and some poor design in the early creation of the game. I also understand that there is effort to fix some of the underlying issue with the game and that it takes time.
3. Mechanical differences between the factions. Klingons could use the addition of a "Klingon morality system" to showcase how Honor/Glory actually matter (in a KLINGON context), beyond being words tacked onto mission text. Giving KDF players actual choices to make and alternatives to cross-faction content that is frankly out-of-character for the faction.
Klingons? you mean the stupid gross, smelly space orks? Orions are better! Also Orions are smart enough to NOT kill their enemies and instead capture them alive so that they can sell them later. I mean seriously, killing your enemies is like throwing Latinum into a black hole! See! This is what a competent space pirate crew looks like:
a "glory system" sounds great, but my experiance with alignment in SWTOR is that it cuts down on roleplaying as people choose whatever choice nets them the most alignment points they need. eliminating all thought from the process.
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> IMO...I do hope they go back to the BORG episodes and make a redo. Why go back to the past with Iconians, Hurq or temporal wars is beyond me. The future IMO is the BORG since it does represent an evolution to what current civilizations have at that timeline.
Me too, the Borg have been very quiet too quiet. Must be time for another assault on earth.
I'm actually reading that right now. Have been pretty impressed with it so far.
The one problem I have had with it I kind of came across this morning: The mirror universe always starts with everyone we know around but all out to kill each other, and each story shows one or more succeeding. Which begs the question: What were they doing for the decades before that particular story started? Logic would seem to suggest that almost all of the known characters we know would have been either the last survivors or dead because of all of the mortal backstabbing. It's like they froze the current team of people in a Star Trek series, transplanted them to the mirror universe and then hit play without once thinking that getting them to that point would have probably resulted in most of them having already killed each other.
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I dunno constantly assaulting and failing to take earth you'd think the borg would adapt new tactics. perhaps instead attempt to get a foothold in the beta or alpha quadrant by attacking someone else first
My character Tsin'xing
If there was one thing to be culled from any of the spin-off Trek television series that might add something to Star Trek Online, for me it would be a better resolution over who (or what) "Future Guy" was in the Enterprise Temporal Cold War. Jonathan Archer never did discover who or what that entity was, which was an error on the part of the showrunners.
the temperoal cold war was addressed pretty majorly
They probably already did. Vega Colony.
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> The Borg are honestly getting old. As I have said in the past, they're overused, and by STO's time period, everyone knows how to fight them effectively.
This is true. However the borg aren't the kind of loose end that you leave untied. Need an arc where we finish them off.
The problem with that is the SHEER SIZE of the territory controlled by the Borg probably makes the Dominion look small. Combine that with their decentralized nature... you'd have to basically exterminatus half the Delta Quadrant to make sure they are 100% defeated.
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So basically it would look like this?
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My character Tsin'xing
With that in mind this is my overall outline, It’s a story in-service of underlying game changes I would like to see to improve the overall game.
Klingon Unification Wars
Under new leadership (and maybe some sort of future prophecy) the current Klingon houses would be torn down and a new Bushido style movement would emerge. During the Arc Qo'noS is wrecked, but at least has a new path and a brighter future.
Klingon Renaissance
With the Unification Wars over the new KDF joins the FED, As Qo'noS recovers, old enemies (Remnants of the old House, Star Empire and Section 31, etc…) begin to conspire, and additional internal threats start to emerge. A new player choice emerges between the Popups Bureaucratic Alliance, or the Morally Flexible Conspirators. Players now choose their actions to gain favor with the new mechanic. Mission wise, the player is still playing the same missions, but structure changes to be more paragon/renegade in missions. Actions taken or not taken during the missions can lead to increased mission difficulty and gain/loss of respect in the factions
- KDF/FED disbanded in favor of a unified STO community with a new paragon/renegade + bureaucracy/rebel mechanic + multi faction respect. (BTW it should be possible although difficult to be respected by all) Respect reduced the EC/DIl/Time cost of in game items.
- Nimbus III would be Revamped, relocate Arena of Sompek to the Stronghold?
- Fall Event (Halloween themed)
Borg RemnantsThe Borg have returned with assimilated races. It is implied that Borg have been orchestrating all the major arcs before the events in STO by manipulating the timelines (The Temporal Cold War was a distraction) Even though this is arc, the arc should not contain “Borg specific Missions” rather all missions have the specter of the Borg. The Borg realizing that a direct assault was no longer effect, adapted and started to use subversion as a tactic. This also makes the Borg more than a one note villain, In fact anyone can be subverted by the Borg in this outline.
- Existing Borg Queue get updated, Now One Cube is able to take on a team.
- Delta Quadrant is expanded, with a much larger Borg presence.
- New Quadrants events like the Hur'q. Final boss could be a full size V’Ger trench run like Mission: Breach,
- Solanae Dyson Sphere revamp (one map)
- Voth adventure revamp
- Undine Battlezone revamp
- Kobali adventure zone revamp
- Borg Invasion of Defera revamp
Multi-Dimensional Temporal MechanicsA new time war with Resurgence Borg threatens all quadrants. The only way to combat the threat is to cheat the timeline by allowing all the events in STO to happen.. A new mission might revolve around the events of a previous missions where you have to “save people” that were thought killed in the main storyline, So yeah all the previous episodes are still in play, revamped when necessary
- Iconians are saved in the past, though the surviving main timeline Iconians still think they died. This group of Iconians with the help of the Solanae and splinted faction of the Tholians Assembly Secret the beginning of a new Temporal Fleet the long way around because they realize that the Borg from this universe if not stopped will begin the threaten the multiverse.
- Mission to save Old Romulus and replace it right before its destruction
- Missions to address some of the questionable destruction of the STO DOOM FLEETS!
- All missions across all factions become accessible by all players though Temporal Intervention Missions. In these missions you assume whatever character/race to blend in with the timeline.
- New Romulus revamp, (add spring event)
New FrontiersGetting back to the basic of exploration
There are other things like dropping the current slots in favor of a simplify one weapon type per load out. making ship class really matter, I find it hilarious that an Enterprise-J is zipping around faster than my pilot ship, and yet my Pilot ship is doing way more DPS. Yeah I know wishful thinking.
Quality of Life Improvements for the Mission Journal
Enhancement for the Duty Office Assignments
Enhancement for Admiralty Missions
Enhancement for Accolades and Reward
Enhancement Bridge Officers
Why is it always same one way thinking?
Seriously....you are asking for different....but doing the same darn thing!!!
Frankly, I really don't like the new revamped DS9...I keep crashing into doors and stairs...so I wouldn't want First city or anyplace else using the current style.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
I know a lot of the limitations are both higher up bureaucracy and some poor design in the early creation of the game. I also understand that there is effort to fix some of the underlying issue with the game and that it takes time.
Quality of Life Improvements for the Mission Journal
Enhancement for the Duty Office Assignments
Enhancement for Admiralty Missions
Enhancement for Accolades and Reward
Enhancement Bridge Officers
My character Tsin'xing