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Jem'Hadar will not use White on the ground

I've seen multiple people post about this, so it's not just me. The Jemmies your VIL toon is issued at the start will not consume White on the ground. In one way this is good I suppose because you don't run through as much of it although if you have Dathan that doesn't matter. But they also never get their super combat boost, which is kind of really annoying.
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  • trench216#3693 trench216 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    And this does NOT affect the Cardassian Struggle Jemmie, who will still use his White as usual. Just the ones you're issued at game start as a VIL toon.
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,807 Community Moderator
    Are there any specific areas that you're noticing this on more than others or anything like that? so far I haven't noticed that particular issue but can definitely try to reproduce it.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Are there any specific areas that you're noticing this on more than others or anything like that? so far I haven't noticed that particular issue but can definitely try to reproduce it.

    This kinda started over on my thread about Tribbles eating my Ketracel White.

    Then, I noticed the Jem'Hadar's BOFFs had a stack of 10....but turned out most people were saying the new BOFFs did not use them at all and 10 is what they came with. Then, @trench216#3693 came by and mentioned the BOFFs don't get the buff from the Ketracel White that the reward BOFF does.

    So, we were wondering if this is another bug? Because that buff for our entire away team sounds pretty useful.

    I am not even sure there is a buff on the BOFFs for consuming Ketracel White...because I don't see it in the Wiki and I do not have the Jem'Hadar BOFF from the Mission.

    (...because I am bored to tears of "Of Bajor" after doing it on a couple of characters and haven't got there, yet, on most of my toons. Now, I am stuck going backwards to do "Yesterday's War" Blah Blah Blah...)


    OOPs...forgot to add: seemed odd that all the BOFFs come equipped with Ketracel White IN their DEVICES but they are not using them.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Q: Jem'Hadar BOFFs quit shrouding after Ketracel White wears off? But they are not consuming it.

    I am not sure if anyone out there has noticed if this is a thing? Or just me worrying about another possible bug.

    Info on Ketracel White lifted from the Wiki:
    Consumed by Jem'Hadar:
    +10% All Damage for 5 min
    +20% Max Hit Points for 5 min
    +25% Increased Run Speed for 5 min
    Empowers Shroud for 3 Hours of Game-Time
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  • thestunningmask#0685 thestunningmask Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    My BOFF's have not been using their White either. Is this a bug? Thank you.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    My BOFF's have not been using their White either. Is this a bug? Thank you.

    Do not know. Trying to figure it out.
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  • iamjmphiamjmph Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    My Boffs still have the ten they started with... do they not go through withdraw like your toon does? I noticed my toon looking kinda creature stanced, so looked and saw he had a negative based on not having used KW for awhile. Fixed it right up by using one.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I been watching my Jem'Hadar BOFFs all day. And I sat their butts in that mission called: Armistice. On the ground map. Watching to see if they get a buff, watching to see if their Shrouds fail. Don't ask me how many hours. MY character is on her second dosing of Ketracel white....that is how long.

    The BOFFs NEVER show a buff via Ketracel White....none of the Ketracel White leaves their inventories.
    They go through the hypos, shield batts and energy cells like crazy though.....(dang I need to set up a Sci healer BOFf on one of them).

    I do not know why these BOFFs even come with Ketracel White as one of their default devices. They never touch the stuff.

    Still don't know if it is working as intended or if it is a bug.

    (I will assume, eventually, NONE of the Jem'Hadar will be using....they will have evolved beyond it.)
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  • trench216#3693 trench216 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    This is the absolute best description of what I was talking about. They do not use it. On mine, they seem to shroud as normal. They never get a "Sated" buff. They never get a White buff. They never get any buffs that aren't generated by their regular powers, or buffs that get laid on them. They're like regular characters.

    The Jemmie you get from the Cardassian arc seems to work the way he always did, except now he gets a "Sated" icon and consumes White as usual.

    I can take some video tonight and provide some kind of link if it's still doing it. One of my VIL team and one of the older mission reward Jemmie. I think the new guys are supposed to work the same way he does.
    where2r1 wrote: »
    I been watching my Jem'Hadar BOFFs all day. And I sat their butts in that mission called: Armistice. On the ground map. Watching to see if they get a buff, watching to see if their Shrouds fail. Don't ask me how many hours. MY character is on her second dosing of Ketracel white....that is how long.

    The BOFFs NEVER show a buff via Ketracel White....none of the Ketracel White leaves their inventories.
    They go through the hypos, shield batts and energy cells like crazy though.....(dang I need to set up a Sci healer BOFf on one of them).

    I do not know why these BOFFs even come with Ketracel White as one of their default devices. They never touch the stuff.

    Still don't know if it is working as intended or if it is a bug.

    (I will assume, eventually, NONE of the Jem'Hadar will be using....they will have evolved beyond it.)

  • preikopreiko Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    As of the first days of "Victory is Life" the Jem'Hadar Bridge Officers used their "Ketracel White"
    i had to get it out of their inventories
    BUT now .... nothing !

    You can dump 80 Ketracel White on each and everyone .... NOTHING!
    not a single vial is missing after hours and hours of playing
  • trench216#3693 trench216 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    Okay so here's links to my videos on this subject.

    Video one, the Victory is Life ground team refusing to use White. They Shroud as normal. And it's not just this map, it's any map, anywhere in the game, and it's been doing it since day one.

    https://www.facebook.com/TabbyJTTF/videos/979919562168755/

    Video two, the standard Facility 4028 mission reward Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer on a routine outing to New Romulus. He also shrouds as normal but he takes his spinach too, sucking down White like a champion the way he always did. He'll even suck it down if he's standing around doing nothing in a non-combat area just like he always has.

    https://www.facebook.com/TabbyJTTF/videos/979927735501271/

    I feel kind of cheated by this, and not just because they're not as strong as they should be. I'm assuming part of this experience was supposed to be having to ration out the White to hungry officers, watching their Sated meters and gauging carefully how much to feed them and having to run all the way back to Loriss on DS9 for more, at least until you finished the Cardassian arc and acquired Dathan. This HAS to be a glitch because I'm almost done with the Breen arc as you can see, I've also gone as far as Time and Tide to drop Chronometric Calculations on him so he can use the Krenim Chroniton Torpedo and in all that fighting I still haven't consumed all the White Odo gave me for doing first runs of the Gamma arc missions. That's a HECK of a lot of White for one toon, but it wouldn't be all that much if they behaved like the Facility 4028 version. I just feel like something is missing that was supposed to be there, an element of drama that would have made the whole experience much more interesting. :(
  • mez83mez83 Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    I have noticed this as well. All my boffs still have the white they started with.
  • trench216#3693 trench216 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    The last patch did not address this issue. Bump.
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