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[PC] The Stats of the DS9 Lock Box and Lobi Ships!

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,673 Community Manager

You've seen the new ships of the DS9 Lock Box, coming with #VictoryisLife. Now find out all about their stats, including the Battlecruiser's Commander Universal seat, and the Maquis Raider's place as our first Miracle Worker Raider.

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10914763
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Holy TRIBBLE on a cracker. Dual Commander seats.

    And on the other the effective ability have 6 tax consoles.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I know I want the Dominion Battle cruiser for my Ferasan Tact. I'll be using the Vanguard ships with my Jem'Hadar. I however presume this ship is going to start out quite expensive based on demand and Boff Seating, so may end up waiting until it hits the infinity box or after it settles down at least.

    The console on it is also universal, and can be used on any ship, so ought to be fun on the t6 Jem'hadar HEC or Ferasan Escort he normally uses.

    Now I am curious is the Jem'Hadar Battle cruiser can equip the consoles from the JHEC & JHDC, as I have both those. No Bug Ship, but honestly with the Jem-Hadar Shields, the Ferasan Escort looks a lot like a Dominion Space Tick.

    Being Able to use the Wormhole Generater as the 3rd party of the Dominion Console Set without having a Bug Ship would be a Fantastic IMHO. A great consolation(Console, get it)? for those who have never had the luck of wealth to get a Bug Ship regardless of tier, what with the Frigates behind a Paywall.

    I don't think Bug-ship owners would mind too much, as they keep their precious ship and Frigates to themselves.
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  • tiberius183tiberius183 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,253 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Whatever happened to the DEFIANT?

    Come on guys why a Maquis ship? DS9 and the Defiant go together. They should have buffed or made a super uber Defiant and lost that opportunity to return STO to its roots. I mean how many versions of Jems ships are out there....Ok, I might be enticed in another Jem ship but the Maquis or even a Bajoran does not do justice to a Defiant class ship.​​
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?

    If it was a Destroyer it would have an Experimental Weapon Slot, so likely just and oversight.
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  • tiberius183tiberius183 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?

    If it was a Destroyer it would have an Experimental Weapon Slot, so likely just and oversight.

    Not necessarily. If you look at the stats for the Vanguard Warship, it's a destroyer, but has a 5/3 setup...
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    OOOPS wrong place.
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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2018
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?

    Oops! Just an oversight. This ship has access to two Cruiser Command Auras: Shield Frequency Modulation and Weapon System Efficiency.

    EDIT: The blog has been updated. Thanks, AmbassadorKael!
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?

    Oops! Just an oversight. This ship has access to two Cruiser Command Auras: Shield Frequency Modulation and Weapon System Efficiency.

    Whoah. That is an uber ship, at least on paper. I predict it will be very expensive for a while...
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,867 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    storules wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the DEFIANT? ​​

    ...it was released to the C-store?

    So what that the Defiant isn't an uber-destroyer capable of pushing meta to points hitherto unimagined by STOreddit? If it's special to you then it's more flyable than anything released in this lock box.



    Anyway, what are the prospects that we'll see the [unfortunate] Yeager class added to STO someday (ie. glue Intrepid parts to the Maquis raider and call it a day)? I hate it, but I'd love to see it in-game (added customization parts for the raider or future promo pack?)
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  • tiberius183tiberius183 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?

    Oops! Just an oversight. This ship has access to two Cruiser Command Auras: Shield Frequency Modulation and Weapon System Efficiency.

    EDIT: The blog has been updated. Thanks, AmbassadorKael!

    Thanks Kael!
  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?

    Oops! Just an oversight. This ship has access to two Cruiser Command Auras: Shield Frequency Modulation and Weapon System Efficiency.

    EDIT: The blog has been updated. Thanks, AmbassadorKael!

    Dang it, that just makes this ship even more spiffy.
  • wherrold#3824 wherrold Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    Two commander seats AND a 5/3?! I need this.
  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 670 Arc User
    I actually wanted a Maquis Raider in this game
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    > @tiberius183 said:
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    > One thing that stuck out to me about the JHBC is there's no mention of cruiser commands. AFAIK, that's something that all battlecruisers have (otherwise, they're just a slow destroyer). Was this an oversight?
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    > Not necessarily. If you look at the stats for the Vanguard Warship, it's a destroyer, but has a 5/3 setup...

    Oh, somehow it slipped my mind or I missed that it was 5/3.
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  • thatsgottahurtthatsgottahurt Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    Out of all the races in Star Trek, I've always found the Dominion and the Jem'Hadar to be the least interesting. It's unfortunate this is what was chosen for the next expansion. The whole idea of intelligent beings, technologically advanced, believing the Founders are gods is ludicrous.
    Now we are seeing the new ships that will be available have a huge advantage over all the ships I have purchased over the years, namely the second fourth-level skill slot being available to a second Commander bridge officer station.

    This is unacceptable. I have purchased many $30 variants of some of the tier 6 ships that don't even have a command station of their variation. That is to say, Command ships that are science variants with no science command officer station, or a tactical Star Cruiser flagship with an engineering command station instead of tactical.

    I have purchased over $300 worth of ships, and many of them had this flaw. Now, not only do these new Jem'Hadar ships not have this flaw, but they get two command stations.

    The word unbalanced comes to mind. These ships will be able to carry two top-of-the-line skills while everyone else is relegated to one.

    I am not planning on purchasing any of the new ships, lock boxes or anything else because I have never cared for the style of the Dominion ships. But now I see they are making these ships so much better than the current T6 ships.

    I hope they are going to make an upgrade for the ships I have purchased, that will change one of the current bridge officer stations into a Command level station, and I would hope they do this to make that new command level station match the variant of the ship. It's really stupid to pay $30 for a Science variant of a Star Cruiser flagship when it doesn't even have a Science Command level bridge officer station. The only thing that makes it a science variant is it has a few more science console slots. Otherwise, it's the same ship.

    In protest, I am not purchasing anything from the new expansion unless they address this issue with an upgrade for the T6 ships I have already purchased.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Out of all the races in Star Trek, I've always found the Dominion and the Jem'Hadar to be the least interesting. It's unfortunate this is what was chosen for the next expansion. The whole idea of intelligent beings, technologically advanced, believing the Founders are gods is ludicrous.
    Now we are seeing the new ships that will be available have a huge advantage over all the ships I have purchased over the years, namely the second fourth-level skill slot being available to a second Commander bridge officer station.

    This is unacceptable. I have purchased many $30 variants of some of the tier 6 ships that don't even have a command station of their variation. That is to say, Command ships that are science variants with no science command officer station, or a tactical Star Cruiser flagship with an engineering command station instead of tactical.

    I have purchased over $300 worth of ships, and many of them had this flaw. Now, not only do these new Jem'Hadar ships not have this flaw, but they get two command stations.

    The word unbalanced comes to mind. These ships will be able to carry two top-of-the-line skills while everyone else is relegated to one.

    I am not planning on purchasing any of the new ships, lock boxes or anything else because I have never cared for the style of the Dominion ships. But now I see they are making these ships so much better than the current T6 ships.

    I hope they are going to make an upgrade for the ships I have purchased, that will change one of the current bridge officer stations into a Command level station, and I would hope they do this to make that new command level station match the variant of the ship. It's really stupid to pay $30 for a Science variant of a Star Cruiser flagship when it doesn't even have a Science Command level bridge officer station. The only thing that makes it a science variant is it has a few more science console slots. Otherwise, it's the same ship.

    In protest, I am not purchasing anything from the new expansion unless they address this issue with an upgrade for the T6 ships I have already purchased.

    For the record, making ships that are better than regular c-store ships is what they've always done. That's why they make them rare or hard to get.

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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    is it weird I'm not impressed with the Battlecruiser? yeah it has basically every min/maxer must have. but I can't find myself thinking of anything really fun to do with it. the 2nd commander slot even more so I can't really picture using it for anything that actually works with the rest without something being else useless or just redundant.

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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @wardcalis said:
    > Why does this light cruiser have intel seating >.< its almost perfect. that should of been a command boff seat

    I assume to make it different from the JV Dreadnought which has the Command Seat.
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,164 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    is it weird I'm not impressed with the Battlecruiser? yeah it has basically every min/maxer must have. but I can't find myself thinking of anything really fun to do with it. the 2nd commander slot even more so I can't really picture using it for anything that actually works with the rest without something being else useless or just redundant.
    The ship its self doesn't interest me, more so as its lacking command and has intel. But for me the trait is amazing. For carrier based pilots this is going to be the best expansion in a very long time. The size of our fleet will more then double from all the new combos and if that wasn't enough our ally pets will be doing a lot more damage per pet.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I just want it for the Eye-Candy Factor, loved this ship since DS9 was on the air and the Dominion war was ongoing.

    At the very least using that Console and Starship Mastery Trait on my Jem'Hadar HEC would be loads of fun. Strange just noticed the HEC has more hull, while the Light Battle Cruiser has a better shield modifier.

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  • wherrold#3824 wherrold Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    > @potasssium said:
    > I just want it for the Eye-Candy Factor, loved this ship since DS9 was on the air and the Dominion war was ongoing.
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    > At the very least using that Console and Starship Mastery Trait on my Jem'Hadar HEC would be loads of fun. Strange just noticed the HEC has more hull, while the Light Battle Cruiser has a better shield modifier.

    Totally agree. The look of it is the key factor for me (wanted this ship for years) and the fact that all the layouts fit perfectly for the type of build I’ve been aiming for is just icing on the cake.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I'm in between, its powerful and unique feature to have two commander seats, but it has no innate abilities like Intel ships, Command Ships, Miracle Worker Ships, Pilot Ships, or Temporal Ships, or like the Galaxy X's Javalin, Grumba's Seige Mode, or Hangar Bays, and it sacrifices of boff station.

    Compare it to say the JV Dreadnought which has the Hangar Bay and Vanguard Mechanics and 1 ensign power, vs The Jem'hadar Light Battlecruiser which only has 1 extra command universal power over it. I mean which a fight between them the Vanguard Feature alone will see more use and be more varsitile.

    But you can create some cool combos with two command seats.
  • sanatobasanatoba Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Why does the Maquis Raider not have the option of using a cloaking device console? The Klingons gave the Maquis cloaking technology to put on their ships. Yeah, they claimed they put them on some missiles in one episode but then it turned out to be a ruse to get help. So in the end they probably did use it on their ships, though it didn't stop them from being mostly wiped out. So why can't we use a cloaking device console on them? We are talking about something cannon here....

    Edit: And PS. I'm not talking about a built in cloak. No, I'm talking exclusively about the cloaking device console like comes on the Galaxy Dreadnought Cruiser. A built in cloak would be too overkillish (and certainly not a battle cloak either), but giving up a console slot for a simple regular cloak makes some sense.
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