Phaser type for the Soyuz class Starship?

lexusk19

I have been digging through pages and pages of info on the ship, she was probably using the Pulse Phasers that the Connie was using in TWoK. But im trying to figure out when the TNG style of phaser was put into full production... Want meh ship to use the right weapons. lol

smokebailey

Kreiger wave disruptors work GREAT on mine.

tyler002

No idea when the TNG-style phasers started being used on ships from the Miranda family, only that it was long before 2409.

rattler2

TNG style phasers probably started getting used around the time the Ambassador class was first deployed, as she's the first that I can think of that had Phaser strips.

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rattler2

azrael605 wrote: »

For what it's worth, the only canon Soyuz class (USS Bozemam) from 2278, didn't have the phaser strips, at least going from the model.

Neither did the Saratoga at Wolf 359. Yet she had TNG style phasers.

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lexusk19

I guess I could logic a retrofit of her phaser system for 2409.

mirrorchaos

azrael605 wrote: »

For what it's worth, the only canon Soyuz class (USS Bozemam) from 2278, didn't have the phaser strips, at least going from the model.

The Soyuz was speculated to have turrets or sensor pods on the rear between the engineering and escape pod bays, but like any Miranda and variant...

rattler2 wrote: »

azrael605 wrote: »

For what it's worth, the only canon Soyuz class (USS Bozemam) from 2278, didn't have the phaser strips, at least going from the model.

Neither did the Saratoga at Wolf 359. Yet she had TNG style phasers.

...they had dual phaser ports on both sides the saucer, they were obviously retrofitted to accept 24th century federation standard from very late TOS to early TNG era, around 2300-2360.

salvation4

Wait are you talking about the Beam array as seen in TNG or beam bank as seen in TOS and the movies excluding the TNG era? OR the visual of the beams fired????

The visuals havent changed but the equipment changed to arrays from the Ambassador class and all ships before the class, were retrofitted to the array style from the beam bank style seen on the classic ships..

jonsills

lexusk19 wrote: »

I guess I could logic a retrofit of her phaser system for 2409.

In fact, were I commanding a Soyuz post-2409, I would demand her weapons systems be retrofit to the highest standard her power and superstructure could handle. It's dangerous out there!

mirrorchaos

salvation4 wrote: »

Wait are you talking about the Beam array as seen in TNG or beam bank as seen in TOS and the movies excluding the TNG era? OR the visual of the beams fired????

The visuals havent changed but the equipment changed to arrays from the Ambassador class and all ships before the class, were retrofitted to the array style from the beam bank style seen on the classic ships..

Considering the Miranda class was in service from 2260's and the Excelsior was in service from 2280's and both classes had dual phaser ports on their saucer? These were never altered during the 2300's. Even the USS Lakota with a new upgrade meant to combat the Dominion and modernize the ship class in 2370's, it still had dual phaser ports on the saucer, not phaser strips.

rattler2

mirrorchaos wrote: »

Even the USS Lakota with a new upgrade meant to combat the Dominion and modernize the ship class in 2370's, it still had dual phaser ports on the saucer, not phaser strips.

zipagat

rattler2 wrote: »

azrael605 wrote: »

For what it's worth, the only canon Soyuz class (USS Bozemam) from 2278, didn't have the phaser strips, at least going from the model.

Neither did the Saratoga at Wolf 359. Yet she had TNG style phasers.

The original Constitution had no visible weapons of any kind either.

mirrorchaos

zipagat wrote: »

rattler2 wrote: »

azrael605 wrote: »

For what it's worth, the only canon Soyuz class (USS Bozemam) from 2278, didn't have the phaser strips, at least going from the model.

Neither did the Saratoga at Wolf 359. Yet she had TNG style phasers.

The original Constitution had no visible weapons of any kind either.

the TOS connie had the same phaser ports, most shots show them just before that white dome on the underneath not far from the neck, but the phaser ports are just above the windows, the refit connie's phaser ports were more noticable with a darker gray hull plate in roughly the same location from the one on TOS.

lordsteve1

Being a Miranda variant from the same era as Reliant we can assume that a Soyuz has at least the same armament, minus the roll bar dual-direction pulse-phaser tubular emitters and the torpedo pod in the middle.
So i'd guess it has the standard 6 dual emitter banks on the saucer (3 top & 3 bottom) which were standard to the Miranda and the Constitution, and probably emitters near the impulse engines as mentioned on the Miranda class. No idea where it's torp launchers would be though.

In fact, you can see the dual banks in this screenshot of the vessel, they are the pairs of dots at the 12, 3 and 9 o'clock positions:



The only Soyuz we've ever seen was from the TMP era and so we have no idea if the class even existed beyond that time. So the only thing we really know is what's in that one episode, and on similar ships from the period.