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What a tier six Vor'cha should look like

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  • gaalomgaalom Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    As for the qib that was one drawn out definition but I know from flying it that it is all true. I will work my way up to the Upgraded tier 5 fleet vorcha, but that will mean finding a strictly KDF fleet if they still exist. For now I will continue to fly the Qib like a warbird it works somewhat. I found most people fly warbirds like other ships but they were designed with the same flaws as the qib. The idea behind them is you fire cloak, decloak, fire, and repeat. The big difference is the qib does not have singularity abilities, and before someone goes too far, I am not saying the Romulans should lose or have those abilities nerfed.

    As for the tier six vor'cha. You could lose a seat for the commander universal to balance it out, the reason I came up with that thought, was to allow any KDF spec player to fly it effectively. I got a idea for a console for that ship. TNG Gowron's vor'cha is under attack by either two bird of preys or two D12s. His ship fires a one distinctive disruptor shot that we never see in star trek again. Put that animation shot into a console, call it a heavy disruptor blast, that does heavy kinetic damage to a unshielded section of a ship.
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  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    I don't own the Tor'Kaht myself. I've thought about it, but perhaps one day. I wish that it got the purchase discount applied if you owned the Vor'kang. Just as I wish that the Bortasqu' wasn't a Fed led sabotage job. It took a lot of work to make the Bortasqu' less clunker(aux2ID3, EptE3, Pilot Spec, consoles, stuff like that).
  • gaalomgaalom Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    Working on that ship right now and yea I do not understand what happened to the Bortasqu' because they even made a one time event/episode for that ship. They did this for the fed version also, and I believe the Romulan version. All that work to make a klingon ship act like a fed ship? Seems like bad management to me.
  • zorky63zorky63 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    the fed counterpart thats the problem. the most logical one the galaxy, which was the flagship at the same time, is in a paired release with the Negh'Var .

    Here lies the crux of the problem .

    If we go by Negh'Var > Vor'cha , then Cryptic has already boxed us in (in a bad way) with :

    Fleet Negh'Tev (T6 Fleet Negh'Var)

    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_Negh'Tev_Heavy_Battlecruiser


    Which is somewhat inferior to the already existing :

    Gorkon Science Battlecruiser

    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Gorkon_Science_Battlecruiser_(T6)


    ... thanks to a slew of abilities (Sensor Analysis, More Tac seating options , More Tac consoles) -- plus getting the T6 Bortasqu' Bundle gives you more good looking skin options then any T6 Vor'cha can muster .
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    The threat an updated Tor'kaht/T6 Vor'cha poses, is that it upsets the paradigm of "Lockbox>Romulan>Fed>Klingon>nothing", because it can do BOTH PvE well, and PvP, and it isn't a lockbox, gamblebox, or premium gamblebox ship. it breaks the artistic vision of the game's show-runners too hard to be permitted.

    Thing is, that paradigm's already pretty dead - because of exactly the balancing subtleties you mention, there are C-store ships which generally outcompete lockbox ships. And the Roms' advantage has been reduced as other factions have got more decent (fleet) BOffs. The D9 and Sarcophagus certainly aren't game breakers, being largely outperformed by the KDF Command Battlecruisers, while the Durgath is impressive on paper but really not much more than what it's described as - a mobile base station. Only the D7 really merits its premium status.

    Back on topic, to my mind the T6 Vor'cha role is pretty well nailed by the ship that most cosmetically resembles it - the Mat'ha. Set the universal Lt slot to Engineering, and you're left with very similar BOff seating to the Tor'kaht, making it just the other side of the tanky escort / fast cruiser equation from the Tor'kaht. It's even got the nose cannon console that a T6 Vor'cha really needs. All of which adds to the problem of finding a niche for the T6 Vor'cha.

    That said, I'm still optimistic we will see one under ViL, given the ship's prominence in DS9. I assume we'll see a new primary specialisation which would give some options. Heck, Miracle Worker would be useful given the mix of cannons, beams and torpedoes used by the canon ship.



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