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flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
This'll be my third attempt at creating this topic; apparently there's some trouble with older accounts and the editing of topics, so I'll need to get this right if I want it to stick.

Anyhow, some of you already have your Walker and/or Crossfield Class starships, though we know that there are a few more ships of the Discovery era out there, and I'd like to know which of those designs you'd like to see next, and how you'd set said design up (ship type, boff/console setup etc).

Magee Class
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Shepard Class
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Engle Class
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Hoover Class
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Malachowski Class
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Cardenas Class
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Nimitz Class
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Preferably these lot would be released by the way of the C-Store, rather than a Lock Box or Lobi Purchase, but I guess we'll see about that. Imperialists shouldn't fear either - there's a few ships of Klingon design for Cryptic to release yet, though all you Republicans are ... well, you're out of luck for obvious reasons - unless the art team get creative.
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The Discovery Fleet 32 votes

Magee Class
3%
jim625 1 vote
Shepard Class
15%
eldarion79kyle223catcaptainbmoneyjordan3550nickkyana#2794 5 votes
Engle Class
0%
Hoover Class
0%
Malachowski Class
0%
Cardenas Class
46%
commanderkassyalexraptorrdaboholicmustrumridcully0artan42kodachikunoseaofsorrowsflash525sisterictheraven2378vampeiyredrut001richyrich1991imperialistsdarkmatter909#7994 15 votes
Nimitz Class
34%
mattjohnsonvadracounguisvegeta50024silk121alcyoneserenekekvinbawdytieflingscrooge69tribbulatercenturian821txsrig71#3336 11 votes
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Cardenas Class
    several of your links provide 403 forbidden errors
    Cerdenas, Nimitz and Shepard are the 3 I like most but I kinda like all of em
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • tribbulatertribbulater Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    Nimitz Class
    Yuck on the Magee and the Hoover, the rest look OK, the Nimitz looks like the only one I would personally be interested in.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Cardenas Class
    hoover is just a proto-miranda/nebula
    I kinda like the mage, but its so not a fed design
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Cardenas Class
    Cardenas and Nimitz are my favorites.
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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    Nimitz Class
    I voted for the Nimitz class because it reminds me a little of the Reliant class, just extra nacelles.

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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,923 Arc User
    I'm all for more ships, but the antiques should not be T6
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    Nimitz Class
    Romulan ships made up by Cryptic's excellent designers to fill the void, exactly as they have done with the T'Laru, but on the topic of these federation ships, irrespective of what I think of the show, I'd like a Nimitz as a fed science vessel.

    Cardenas seems like a blocky prometheus, not bad, but not all that great in my view.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    I'm all for more ships, but the antiques should not be T6

    Too late, move on


    anyway my vote is for this version of the Constitution class

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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Nimitz Class
    If Nimitz is a carrier, yeah. 2nd choice is Shepard Class.
    Sadly, the Discovery seems to be the ugliest ship in TRIBBLE! :D
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    I vote for Constitution class.
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  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    Cardenas Class
    I NEED THIS CONNIE SO BADLY.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Nimitz Class
    I NEED THIS CONNIE SO BADLY.

    Yeah, I ain't ever gonna spend 1+B for the TOS one so slap this sucker in the C-store! It's a different ship so the owners of the TOS Connie shouldn't be able to whine about it! ;)
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    Cardenas Class
    several of your links provide 403 forbidden errors.
    I have checked the links on three different devices since posting, and they all still work for me. Maybe the error is on your end? Does anyone else have problems viewing any of the images? Merely curious.
    I'm all for more ships, but the antiques should not be T6
    Normally I'd agree, but we've already got modern antiques, so that ship has sailed.
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    anyway my vote is for this version of the Constitution class
    I vote for Constitution class.
    If only I'd waited and posted this a few days later. :tongue: I'd further assume the votes would be in favour of that Constitution too.
    Yeah, I ain't ever gonna spend 1+B for the TOS one so slap this sucker in the C-store! It's a different ship so the owners of the TOS Connie shouldn't be able to whine about it!.
    Except that it isn't; it's still the prime universe TOS connie, it just looks more modern. :wink:
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
    Cardenas Class
    flash525 wrote: »
    several of your links provide 403 forbidden errors.
    I have checked the links on three different devices since posting, and they all still work for me. Maybe the error is on your end? Does anyone else have problems viewing any of the images? Merely curious.
    I'm all for more ships, but the antiques should not be T6
    Normally I'd agree, but we've already got modern antiques, so that ship has sailed.
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    anyway my vote is for this version of the Constitution class
    I vote for Constitution class.
    If only I'd waited and posted this a few days later. :tongue: I'd further assume the votes would be in favour of that Constitution too.
    Yeah, I ain't ever gonna spend 1+B for the TOS one so slap this sucker in the C-store! It's a different ship so the owners of the TOS Connie shouldn't be able to whine about it!.
    Except that it isn't; it's still the prime universe TOS connie, it just looks more modern. :wink:

    It's a nice update on the Connie, I don't intend to sound mean but maybe the 1960s designs are not up to scratch anymore. The Connie's bridge will be important, I could see a TOS set up but with Discovery tech.
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      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
      Cardenas Class
      It's a nice update on the Connie, I don't intend to sound mean but maybe the 1960s designs are not up to scratch anymore. The Connie's bridge will be important, I could see a TOS set up but with Discovery tech.
      It's not, but I think some people, especially from a certain generation, get worked up on what they deem to be unnecessary changes. If they'd thrown in a TOS style Constitution for that scene, instead of feeling glad about it (as I did), I'd have friggin' laughed at how pathetic and out of place it looked.

      Discovery is a modern show, and everything involved with it needs to be modern too. The people that can't quite accept that need to get a grip and move along with the times. Respectfully.
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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
      Cardenas Class
      flash525 wrote: »
      It's a nice update on the Connie, I don't intend to sound mean but maybe the 1960s designs are not up to scratch anymore. The Connie's bridge will be important, I could see a TOS set up but with Discovery tech.
      It's not, but I think some people, especially from a certain generation, get worked up on what they deem to be unnecessary changes. If they'd thrown in a TOS style Constitution for that scene, instead of feeling glad about it (as I did), I'd have friggin' laughed at how pathetic and out of place it looked.

      Discovery is a modern show, and everything involved with it needs to be modern too. The people that can't quite accept that need to get a grip and move along with the times. Respectfully.

      I'm getting a phase II vibe about the Discovery Connie, it's very nice
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        "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
        -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
      • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
        Literally the only thing I don't like about the DiscoConnie is the cutouts in the nacelle pylons.

        Everything else is GIVE ME NOW
      • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
        edited February 2018
        Cardenas Class
        the nacelle look a little too NX class for me but aside from that I really love the TRIBBLE-Connie.... guess we know what the next Promotion! ship is... I do wonder at her size tho... seems stuck between TOS and JJprize given the comparison to a crossfield.

        Hope itll be in the zen store, I just know it wont tho

        edit:
        and I am SO glad it didnt look like the Defiant wireframe a few episodes prior
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        tacofangs wrote: »
        STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
      • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
        edited February 2018
        Well... we do have to consider that the Defiant had been in the Mirror Universe for 100 years or so. So naturally she would have been modified all to hell in that time.

        As for the Discovery Connie... VERY well done. She maintains many of the elements we're familiar with, while modernizing her to match up with all the new ships introduced in Discovery. I see elements of the classic, with a hint or two of refit, specifically in the pylons. They kinda look swept back like the Refit, but not as dramatically. And the Warp Field Grills glowing blue like that... AWESOME.

        The gunmetal grey hull is probably a callback to Enterprise, which is a nice touch as well.

        But still... anyone who looks at that beauty will see a Connie. No doubt about it. As for scale... length wise Discovery is longer, but mass wise they look comparable.

        It is a beautiful thing.
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        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
        The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
        Cardenas Class
        rattler2 wrote: »
        Well... we do have to consider that the Defiant had been in the Mirror Universe for 100 years or so. So naturally she would have been modified all to hell in that time.
        A very valid observation; those ... additions on the pylons could certainly pass as weapon arrays of some description (something the Terran Empire would surely appreciate).

        I agree with everything else you've said too. I was sceptical of the TRIBBLE Constitution, but I couldn't ask for a better suited ship, one that does a seemingly perfect job of merging ENT, TRIBBLE & TOS into a nice, modern blend.

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      • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
        That Discovery Connie has been...

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        Fine lass that ship. Worthy of the name Enterprise.
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        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
        The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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      • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
        Nimitz Class
        flash525 wrote: »
        It's a nice update on the Connie, I don't intend to sound mean but maybe the 1960s designs are not up to scratch anymore. The Connie's bridge will be important, I could see a TOS set up but with Discovery tech.
        It's not, but I think some people, especially from a certain generation, get worked up on what they deem to be unnecessary changes. If they'd thrown in a TOS style Constitution for that scene, instead of feeling glad about it (as I did), I'd have friggin' laughed at how pathetic and out of place it looked.

        Discovery is a modern show, and everything involved with it needs to be modern too. The people that can't quite accept that need to get a grip and move along with the times. Respectfully.

        Okay, I need to step in here and explain something. All the aesthetics, the ship designs, the technology, even the uniforms, none of them are bad on their own. I'd even call them great. They are not the problem at all. The problem comes from where, or rather when they are set.

        The Star Trek TV series has a very well defined timeline, with some wiggle room in certain areas. If this all took place post-Voyager / post-Nemesis, no one would care though they would ask questions as to how we got here from there. But it was decided that Discovery was to be a story set 10 years before the Original Series. That makes Discovery a "period piece" so to speak within the timeline of Star Trek. There are rules for period pieces that should not be violated. Rules that govern what things should look and act like in order to be true to the time in question and lend credibility to what is being created. So to those that realize this and care about it, Discovery being "a modern show, and everything involved with it needs to be modern too" is bull and tantamount to historical revisionism. And to ask them to "get a grip and move along with the times" well there's nothing respectful about that.

        "Relics", "Trials and Tribble-ations", and "In a Mirror, Darkly" all stayed true to what came before. And "In a Mirror, Darkly" did so especially well. Were they to through in a TOS style Constitution even truer to TOS it probably would or should have looked like this: https://trekmovie.com/2018/02/09/prep-for-star-trek-discovery-finale-with-fan-made-enterprise-burnham-burrito-and-more/

        I don't think that looks out of place, do you?

        Where Discovery leaves off is about 3 years after "The Cage." Given that and the fact that the Federation has been at war for about 9 months, I can safely call this version of the Enterprise a "War-time Refit". So, I don't have a problem with how it's shown in the finale, but it is important that enough time and reason be allotted for it to be refit into a "Post-war" variant, otherwise known as what is seen in TOS.

        FYI, I'm 28. This is not a generational thing. This is a consistency thing. And that's all I have to say on the matter.

        As for the ships for STO, I like the DIS Connie, the Nimitz, the Cardenas, the Malachowski, and the Shepard.
      • jrdobbsjr#3264 jrdobbsjr Member Posts: 431 Arc User
        I'll buy it if it hits the Zen or Lobi store, or goes for a doable amount on the exchange like the JJprise....it looks good. Though it seems clear now that they are ret-conning away TOS entirely.
      • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
        azrael605 wrote: »
        > @kodachikuno said:
        > hoover is just a proto-miranda/nebula
        > I kinda like the mage, but its so not a fed design

        Except that it is.

        They really aren't, they're fugly ships that are called Federation because the show doesn't give a damn about canon.
        I'll buy it if it hits the Zen or Lobi store, or goes for a doable amount on the exchange like the JJprise....it looks good. Though it seems clear now that they are ret-conning away TOS entirely.

        It's because they are...they're throwing away canon just to make Star Trek into a generic sci fi Star Wars wanna be.
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      • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
        Nimitz Class
        flash525 wrote: »
        Except that it isn't; it's still the prime universe TOS connie, it just looks more modern. :wink:

        I thought CBS stopped trying to pass off their fan insulting "it's Prime universe" BS about TRIBBLE.
        Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
      • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
        Cardenas Class
        nope they still insist on that
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        tacofangs wrote: »
        STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
      • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
        Cardenas Class
        lianthelia wrote: »
        They really aren't, they're fugly ships that are called Federation because the show doesn't give a damn about canon.

        Hmm, saucers and nacelles. Check. More canon than the Defiant.
        lianthelia wrote: »
        It's because they are...they're throwing away canon just to make Star Trek into a generic sci fi Star Wars wanna be.

        Well you sound easily confused. I suppose you must get distracted by bright lights easily and are unable to then pay attention for 15 episodes.
        flash525 wrote: »
        Except that it isn't; it's still the prime universe TOS connie, it just looks more modern. :wink:

        I thought CBS stopped trying to pass off their fan insulting "it's Prime universe" BS about TRIBBLE.

        I thought fans stopped b|tching and moaning about a continuity that barely existed and a can that retcons everyt.... Hahahaha, just pulling you leg, I never thought whining fanbois would change.
        And it's DSC or DIS, not TRIBBLE. Though those acronyms are no doubt not really edgy enough for you.​​
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