> @avoozuul said: > burstorion wrote: » > > T6 Corvette. > > > > I am hoping that we at least get a T6 Risian Corvette in 2019, 2018 is a no go since there's still a Vorgon ship left.
I agree, the vorgon ships are really pretty nice, I just wish we'd gotten t6 versions of the risian ships first.
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk
Kirk was kidnapped yes, but he was in no danger at all, in fact far from it, his survival was paramount to the plans of the planet. The ship was never in any danger at all either, had they followed orders they would have been eventually assigned a new captain and continued on safe & sound. His crew was emphatically and specifically forbidden from trying to set foot on the planet by their superiors, which order they ignored, based on that being what Kirk would have done.
This is just one example and the only one I actually gave, but many more are quite easy to find. Another example of his flouting of regulations, Kirk is mentioned in Trials and Tribbilations as having made 19 violations of temporal regulations "the worst offender on record, the man was a menace", even Janeway doesn't top that and she drove a Temporal Starfleet captain to madness (Braxton).
I also did not use The Return of the Archons planet as an example, in fact had you read my post I stated that I was not using that planet as an example. Same with the Taste of Armageddon planet, I stated I was not using that as an example. Though there was no "outside interference" there, they were at war with another world in their own system, a world they colonized to begin with, said war had lasted for 500 years. But again, neither of those 2 worlds were given as examples.
Kirk blatantly violated the Prime Directive often. Picard usually bent it, or used it to his own advantage such as in Merrit Buttrick's final Trek appearance (Symbiosis). I am not in the slightest bit interested in "which captain is better" pissing contests. The fact remain that Kirk was openly contemptuous of diplomats, often describing them as less than useless, while Picard is one of Starfleet's greatest diplomats. The facts also remain that Kirk often disobeyed orders and violated regulations, going all the way back to the academy, while Picard was a master of using the rules to his advantage. Multiple times during TNG Picard was faced with other Starfleet officers who had taken explicitly Kirk-like actions such as supplying weapons to both sides of a civil war to maintain a balance of power (Too Short a Season), Picard's responses say all that needs to be said about how he would have responded to Kirk.
Kirk didn't supply weapons to both sides of a civil war. He supplied weapons to one side, after the klingons had supplied them to the other. What else was there to do, let the klingons win? Or shoot the klingon-backed side themselves?
Picard also ignored orders when necessary and similarly inspired his crew to do the same. Two of his four movies would never have happened if they had followed orders. Picard was more often concerned with paying lip-service to obstructive regulations than Kirk, but when the asterisk really hit the fan he'd do the right thing just the same.
Ah but you see Admiral Jameson's stated reasons for his actions in Too Short a Season are almost a direct quote of Kirk from a Private Little War, and its designed that way by the writers to illustrate the differences between the two captains.
I don't have transcripts of the episodes and can't remember their exact words. But regardless of what excuses Jameson used, the situation is not the same.
And yes Picard also disobeyed orders, though that action in First Contact is not even remotely the same as the actions taken in The Mark of Gideon. In First Contact the Enterprise should have been at Wolf already, and the entire Federation was at stake. In Gideon however, the only lives at risk were those of the people of Gideon, who willingly offered themselves to death for the sake of their overpopulated planet, and the actions of Kirk and crew didn't change that one iota. The person supplying the deadly contagion simply switched from Kirk to the girl he had infected.
Memory-Alpha says McCoy cured the girl in the end. The plot of that episode was extraordinarily dumb, but Kirk and crew did nothing wrong there.
If those people really "willingly offered themselves" to suicide, why don't they just shoot themselves?
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T6 Risian ships with actual bridge packs would be really nice. More new content that isn't a mini game grind fest. Something with story and replayability that hides the grind better.
The nemisis interiors and an argo for the sovereign and a properly scaled interior for all ships..And also a norway class medium cruiser that can be used as an ENG ship..
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> I am hoping that we at least get a T6 Risian Corvette in 2019, 2018 is a no go since there's still a Vorgon ship left.
I agree, the vorgon ships are really pretty nice, I just wish we'd gotten t6 versions of the risian ships first.
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk
Picard also ignored orders when necessary and similarly inspired his crew to do the same. Two of his four movies would never have happened if they had followed orders. Picard was more often concerned with paying lip-service to obstructive regulations than Kirk, but when the asterisk really hit the fan he'd do the right thing just the same.
Or, to quote Data:
Memory-Alpha says McCoy cured the girl in the end. The plot of that episode was extraordinarily dumb, but Kirk and crew did nothing wrong there.
If those people really "willingly offered themselves" to suicide, why don't they just shoot themselves?
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