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Anyone think Discovery has added to Sto's pop?
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Lots of people were saying Star Trek Discovery would add players to the game. So far it does not look like too many new people are around. Maybe you are seeing something different?
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I wasn't impressed by the premiere. Probably won't buy the DVDs either. If I see it on Netflix or network TV I'll watch it. That's about it. Not a fan of how CBS handled this relaunch of Trek. Seemed more a blatant money-grab by executives there than any artistic endeavor.
I'll drink to that (bolded). If they were showing it on the air or even for free, maybe - even on Netflix where all the other Treks from TOS to TAS are - but I refuse to pay and subscribe to 'All Access' just for one show. It just wouldn't be worth it to me in the long run.
The sad thing is that I actually do like what I've seen of DIS and wouldn't mind watching it if not for CBS's idiot decision...
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Yeah...you said it. Feels like a blatant cash grab and nothing else...no real effort is put into it to make it good...only thing it has in common with star trek is the name...a attempt to turn Star Trek into generic sci fi the kiddies with small attention spans can oooh and aahhh over.
Their latest episode just screams attention grab...beer pong...f-ing beer pong...it's a joke of a show.
That's a (semi-)joke, by the way.
It's more likely Discovery might have more of an impact on STO when people have seen entire seasons and STO actually has some of the ships later down the road.
There are a number of reasons you won't see a bump in the player base. It's not really a good game and doesn't feel like Trek (people complain about Discovery not "feeling" like Trek, STO is 10 times worse). The player base is split between 97 queues. The player base is highly casual and the game is designed around people logging in for 30 minutes and then logging off. PC and console versions of the game. A lot of players left for a reason and won't return just because there's a new Trek series on.
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
To work out the kinks for TRIBBLE they'd have to:
* Blow up the ship and get a proper star fleet ship that doesn't look like an NX and D-7 had a baby together.
* Have actual uniforms that don't look like JJ Trek.
* Klingons be Klingons
* Put it on regular TV and not some stupid cash grab web service.
That would be a good start to working out kinks. Christ if a fan made production can get it right like Star Trek Continues you would think the owners of the IP would actually get it right as well. I guess not however and further adds to my feeling that they really don't know how to take care of the IP anymore.
It's on par with the hate TNG got when it started (though TNG's first season was atrocious).
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From what I've read the bashing was initially often revolving around the cast. It was no immature sh*tstorm like you would see nowadays by any stretch however.
Fans wanted a continuation of TOS with the original crew at first, and internally actors like Gates McFadden and Denise Crosby were really unhappy with the relations of characters and their development. Crosby bailed because her character was meant to be a rather unimportant stereotype, and McFadden hated that she had to play a single-mom to an annoying child everybody has to treat like a super-genius. Which is also why season 2 had a different doctor in her place.
The original TOS-cast first opposed the entire idea of TNG as well.
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Yes it did, by a mile. Hell, by 100 miles.
The acting and writing in TNGs first season was pretty dire, even Patrick Stewart was struggling. It probably wasn't helped by the fact most characters had a personality and biography that could be written on the back of a matchbox. Some of them with marker pen. They actually managed to be even more 2-dimensional than Voyager's characters in season 1, which really takes some doing.
By now we'd have had the following stories from TNG:-
Encounter at Farpoint
The Naked Now
Code of Honor
The Last Outpost
Where No One Has Gone Before
Lonely Among Us
Justice
None of them were even close to being classics.
I know nostalgia tells us it was magnificent, with magnificent characters and magnificent mind blowing stories. Encounter at Farpoint was an episode too long with some of the cringiest and unconvincing acting in Trek. Code of Honor was about a racist stereotype wanting to bone Yar. Justice is the sort of story that'd have you screaming at Archer for being a colossal dumbass. The Last Outpost was about introducing Klingon replacement, who were an analogyanvil for 80's conservative America (only their traditional values were about women not wearing clothes... because it's Gene's idea).
So yes, Discovery's first season blows TNG's out of the water.
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Best of both worlds is the point of TNG that's generally remembered best I guess, and not only by fans but by the general TV-audience. Everybody seems to at least know that Picard was Locutus at some point.
Even though S1-S3 were overall not that great, some of the episodes were okay and I'd even rate Datalore, Conspiracy, The neutral zone, Unnatural selection, Contagion, Measure of a man, Samaritan snare, The ensigns of command, Who watches the watchers, The defector, The offspring and Hollow pursuits as pretty good, personally. There were just too many average-and-below episodes in-between.
Well said...
From a fleet perspective whatever smaller bump received earlier now went back to regular numbers regarding Discovery fan lookers. On the contrary, I dare to say that it has done NOTHING to see more noobs in fleets or zone chat. Then again fall has always been the worst time for audiences in STO.
But then in 2002 it got a Mageknight treatment as "Mechwarrior Dark Age" as a faster paced collectable game in 2002; while old Battletech had to re-brand as "Classic Battletech". MWDA had a decent player base at first but then it died in 2008.
And the old Battletech is still going on and dropped the Classic. While it may not be a major money making game in the grand scheme of things (like Games Workshop?), but it's been chugging along for 33 yrs. Sadly, they had to follow the timeline set in MWDA which is kinda stupid.
The MWDA drew in all players for the eye-candy, fast & shallow game play. Only problem with that 'flighty' audience is they easily get distracted by the new shiny object and leave.
Well, CBS is a BUSINESS, that has to answer to their stock holders. It is the basic purpose of most businesses to make money.
Seems like they're saying the strategy used to market the show has severely compromised its appeal.
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you're right, it was worse
discovery's staff, at least, hasn't received any death threats yet (that i'm aware of)
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