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Well... Looks like the producers of TRIBBLE have some serious explaining to do

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    But Star Trek is obviously not written in that way. The transporter is by all intends and purposes meant to transport one person from a to b, not make copies. That's the intention behind it and it was never suggested otherwise. Even if you derive a different functionality from events in a episode, it still was never meant to be this way.
    Well it did make a copy so if it happened once, then it can happen again accidentally or on purpose.
    The ep where Riker got duplicated suggested that he nearly died in the process.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    Well it did make a copy so if it happened once, then it can happen again accidentally or on purpose. It is just a matter of the writers forgetting that some particular feature is now canon. Just like how Star Trek Beyond forgot about Khan's transporter that would replace starships.

    Yes, in "freak accidents" copies have been made which was a major plot point for an episode about how basically impossible it was. It's not meant to happen, usually one person travels via transporter somewhere, the very same person simply taking a "ride" on a "transporter beam". Any theorizing about how a transported person dies and a copy is created is purely fan made, the show never did anything to hint on that - otherwise it would have been a plot at some point. Even the transporter-sceptical people of the franchise didn't reject it because of it.​​
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    Well it did make a copy so if it happened once, then it can happen again accidentally or on purpose. It is just a matter of the writers forgetting that some particular feature is now canon. Just like how Star Trek Beyond forgot about Khan's transporter that would replace starships.

    Yes, in "freak accidents" copies have been made which was a major plot point for an episode about how basically impossible it was. It's not meant to happen, usually one person travels via transporter somewhere, the very same person simply taking a "ride" on a "transporter beam". Any theorizing about how a transported person dies and a copy is created is purely fan made, the show never did anything to hint on that - otherwise it would have been a plot at some point. Even the transporter-sceptical people of the franchise didn't reject it because of it.​​

    Because turning people into a bunch of subatomic particles or energy doesn't kill them even though that is how phasers work when they disintegrate an enemy. The main reason why they don't acknowledge it is due to having to always use shuttles when transporters are so much cheaper to film.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    Because turning people into a bunch of subatomic particles or energy doesn't kill them even though that is how phasers work when they disintegrate an enemy. The main reason why they don't acknowledge it is due to having to always use shuttles when transporters are so much cheaper to film.

    If they 'don't acknowledge' it, it's not true for the world we are watching. Fan theories aside, it is a "transporter", not a "kill-copier".​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    Because turning people into a bunch of subatomic particles or energy doesn't kill them even though that is how phasers work when they disintegrate an enemy...
    A transporter puts the target back together when all is said and done. Most organic beings cease to function if you separate them into their component parts and leave them in that state.

    For even more fun, recall that Kirk and Saavik were having a conversation during the transporter process in Wrath of Khan.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    ^Ditto Reg Barclay remaining conscious during transport. There's a scene in TNG where we get to see the transporter room vanish into blue sparkles and be replaced by his destination from Barclay's perspective.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    redvenge wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    Because turning people into a bunch of subatomic particles or energy doesn't kill them even though that is how phasers work when they disintegrate an enemy...
    A transporter puts the target back together when all is said and done. Most organic beings cease to function if you separate them into their component parts and leave them in that state.

    For even more fun, recall that Kirk and Saavik were having a conversation during the transporter process in Wrath of Khan.

    I can take a lego structure apart and put it back together. Even if it is completely identical, it is not the original structure. The original lego structure was destroyed to create the new completely identical lego structure. Whether the transported person's consciousness is the original or a duplicate doesn't change the fact that they ceased to exist for a few seconds and their original body was destroyed.
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