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Cryptic: let's donate the next lock box proceeds to the flood

donnydoo818#3004 donnydoo818 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
Hey Cryptic, here is an idea: let's take the next lock box and donate the proceeds to help the flood victims in Texas. The community can know that all of the money they spend on keys during this promotion will be going to a good cause, and you will have the joy of knowing you are helping those in need. Let's work together to help out!
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  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    A noble idea.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,680 Arc User
    A nice idea, but Cryptic is not swimming in money like Blizzard or Value. Just look at the DOOM! threads to see how some people expect the game to shut down any day now. Lock box sales aren't a luxury for them it's what keeps the servers running and salaries paid.
  • disqord#9557 disqord Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    Time to play some Devil's Advocate.

    It's a very sweet sentiment, but unfortunately that just isn't how the world works. It's a bit harder than just "give X money to Y cause!" This kind of thing takes a lot of planning and effort, not to mention the amount of profits lost for the duration of the sale.
    Cryptic has no obligation to help. Companies can't just drop everything and donate to any cause that is deemed "noble".

    I get it, it's genuinely awful, what's happening in Texas. But you can't expect every company to suddenly be able to toss their lifeblood away, even if the reason is genuine and good.

    I'm sorry, but it isn't likely to happen. There will be other ways for you to help, though, and I implore that you seek those options as well.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,680 Arc User
    What is more reasonable would be a donation drive like they've done a couple of times for Extra Life, and for the one Chase Masterson works with. Donate, get C-Store items and/or more rare goodies like the Leeta and TOS crew boffs.
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Donate and get some wellies as a cosmetic item?

    Perhaps an umbrella or tshirt with the slogan "only risa doesnt have climate change" on it.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    You mean 'Only Risa doesn't have a night" on it. :)
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    Red Cross needs donations, but if they aren't your cuppa tea, there are many charities which need help.

    The Texas Secretary Of State lists those charities which are involved in disaster relief, so check to be sure your charity isn't just using the disaster to increase fundraising or, even worse, isn't a charity at all. Scum floats to the top when a disaster strikes, so watch for scams.

    Wal Mart, believe it or not, was on the ground after Katrina, ahead of everyone except the Coast Guard and the helicopter crews of our local military air base. If they are collecting in your area, see if you can drop a can of beans in the box.

    But the problem is, after the news cycles away from Houston, there will still be need. Tide, the laundry detergent company, parked washer/dryer trailers all around the city and paid people to do laundry for the many flood victims whose own appliances were damaged. Such a simple thing made a huge difference. You have no idea how good it feels to slip on clean dry socks after your first bath in a week.

    Meals On Wheels set up meal distribution points where anyone in the area could go for a hot meal and a clean table to eat from. Well after the storm good food was hard to get because stores were closed and most people had no means to cook anyway. You learn a new appreciation for a plate of spaghetti with a side of greens after eating nothing cooked for days or weeks at a time.

    So, give to charities with a reputation, and plan to give again soon. A huge donation now would be great, but it'll run out fast, and there will be charities in there doing the heavy lifting long after the government guys go home.

    Final note: if your local police or fire department is sending help to the disaster zone, ask if you can donate to them directly. What those guys do is vital because the police and fire departments in the disaster area have flooded vehicles, offices, and homes, and they need time to get their own lives back in order before they can go back to keeping everyone safe. I met policemen from New York, Kentucky, Illinois, (and Chicago too,) Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas after Katrina.

    Edit: diapers, baby wipes, and formula were also scarce commodities. If any of those companies are accepting donations, that might be a good place to start.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,652 Community Moderator
    I can't see an entire lockbox run being donated. Maybe a special R&D Charity Drive Weekend, but not months of income. I can also see something like Chase Masterson's thing from a couple years ago, where donations also give special in game stuff.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    I don't think anywhere has a night anymore.

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    As for the original topic: nice idea, but will not work for the reasons stated (ignore DOOM threads though, they've been around since I started playing, pretty certainly even longer)
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  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    While a nice idea, donations should be left to individuals at their own discretion.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,652 Community Moderator
    ITS CRASH!

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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,652 Community Moderator
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    This topic hasn't been derailed, it has twisted 180 degrees and warped out of the system!
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    Personally, I find donating to a certain charity through Walmart or some other store to be unsettling. If I want to donate to a certain charity, then I will do it myself instead of making Walmart look good with my money. The OP's suggestion and similar charities like the daily profits of a certain meal at a fast food restaurant goes to a certain charity is far more reasonable.

    Donating food to a certain charity is hit and miss since a ton of food is discarded due to it being perishable or near its expiration date. Donating cash to those types of charities is better since the people involved with those charities can purchase the right type of food and might even get a bulk discount.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    A nice idea, but Cryptic is not swimming in money like Blizzard or Value. Just look at the DOOM! threads to see how some people expect the game to shut down any day now. Lock box sales aren't a luxury for them it's what keeps the servers running and salaries paid.

    i'm afraid i have to agree with this point. as much as i would like to see the entire country try to help those in Texas, Cryptic wouldn't survive without Perfect World to back them and they can't just throw money at a good cause like that.
    Hey Cryptic, here is an idea: let's take the next lock box and donate the proceeds to help the flood victims in Texas. The community can know that all of the money they spend on keys during this promotion will be going to a good cause, and you will have the joy of knowing you are helping those in need. Let's work together to help out!

    Try ask Perfect World if they would be interested in donating some money to the Red Cross.
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,252 Arc User
    Hey Cryptic, here is an idea: let's take the next lock box and donate the proceeds to help the flood victims in Texas. The community can know that all of the money they spend on keys during this promotion will be going to a good cause, and you will have the joy of knowing you are helping those in need. Let's work together to help out!
    Isn't the Texas floods small compared to some of the floods going off in the rest of the world. Shouldn't we be donating to the big floods in South Asia right now which are much worse.
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    Disasters aren't scaleable. If you are in one, it's bad.

    Certainly those in other disasters around the world need help, and giving to reputable charities world wide is something to consider.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    While a nice idea, donations should be left to individuals at their own discretion.

    This. What is happening is awful, but many players are not even from the US or even from Texas. If they decided to donate a significant part of their income to the victims of this flood, then where does it end? Why not also do the same thing whenever there's a flooding in England for instance (as happened a few years ago)?

    Disasters are happening almost on a daily basis. Not just in Texas, not just in the US.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    And just to add a bit more realism: instead of focussing on Cryptic, why not focus on the American government?

    They are the ones who are supposed to assist the victims (and even better, prevent such things from happening through prevention). And they have a bit more money than Cryptic. Of course that would require setting priorities, maybe moving away from building walls or waging wars to actually work on your own country and build some proper defenses against flooding.

    Which would be a crazy thing to do, I know. Or maybe it wouldn't be that crazy. Either way, it's probably more logical and effective to try that. It works here in the Netherlands, it can work in your country as well.

    Not questioning your good intentions OP, but I think more success can be had through other strategies.
  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    And just to add a bit more realism: instead of focussing on Cryptic, why not focus on the American government?

    They are the ones who are supposed to assist the victims (and even better, prevent such things from happening through prevention). And they have a bit more money than Cryptic. Of course that would require setting priorities, maybe moving away from building walls or waging wars to actually work on your own country and build some proper defenses against flooding.

    Which would be a crazy thing to do, I know. Or maybe it wouldn't be that crazy. Either way, it's probably more logical and effective to try that. It works here in the Netherlands, it can work in your country as well.

    Not questioning your good intentions OP, but I think more success can be had through other strategies.

    I'm an American, and while my toes are are now sore, I can't really argue. The older I get the more I begin to agree with statements such as yours.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    And just to add a bit more realism: instead of focussing on Cryptic, why not focus on the American government?

    They are the ones who are supposed to assist the victims (and even better, prevent such things from happening through prevention). And they have a bit more money than Cryptic. Of course that would require setting priorities, maybe moving away from building walls or waging wars to actually work on your own country and build some proper defenses against flooding.

    Which would be a crazy thing to do, I know. Or maybe it wouldn't be that crazy. Either way, it's probably more logical and effective to try that. It works here in the Netherlands, it can work in your country as well.

    Not questioning your good intentions OP, but I think more success can be had through other strategies.

    There is an easy answer to this question and it means putting a leader in place who can get the job done. It's also been my experience that a democratic government only cares about something so long as they stand to gain from it, charity isn't what they are about, that is what the charity shops are for even if a lot of the money per dollar or pound goes back to the treasury.

    For something like this, i'm not so sure on your current administration. but it would be nice to know your leader is doing everything he can to ram through support for a major clean up and relief effort.
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    And just to add a bit more realism: instead of focussing on Cryptic, why not focus on the American government?

    They are the ones who are supposed to assist the victims (and even better, prevent such things from happening through prevention). And they have a bit more money than Cryptic. Of course that would require setting priorities, maybe moving away from building walls or waging wars to actually work on your own country and build some proper defenses against flooding.

    Which would be a crazy thing to do, I know. Or maybe it wouldn't be that crazy. Either way, it's probably more logical and effective to try that. It works here in the Netherlands, it can work in your country as well.

    Not questioning your good intentions OP, but I think more success can be had through other strategies.

    There is an easy answer to this question and it means putting a leader in place who can get the job done. It's also been my experience that a democratic government only cares about something so long as they stand to gain from it, charity isn't what they are about, that is what the charity shops are for even if a lot of the money per dollar or pound goes back to the treasury.

    For something like this, i'm not so sure on your current administration. but it would be nice to know your leader is doing everything he can to ram through support for a major clean up and relief effort.

    Well if enough people demand something, it will happen. The USA is still, just like my country, a democracy.

    Although I just realised that things might be a bit more complicated in the US because specific states might have to build flood defences, rather than the national government - on which these states might be dependent for funding nevertheless. I don't know, I was just giving the example of the Netherlands because half our country (including the most urbanised part) is below sea level, yet the last time we had serious flooding was more than 50 years ago.

    With enough public investments (which can also strengthen the economy because private companies can do something productive) things like are happening now in Texas can be avoided or the impact at least severly reduced. For a large part it really depends on willingness I think, in a country like the USA, I doubt that technical knowledge or financial ability are going to be the limiting factors.

    I know that it won't immediately help those who are hit now, but it may help to focus more on the government rather than private companies such as Cryptic in the long run.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    It is a very easy thing to be charitable with someone else's money or time. isn't it?
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    It is a very easy thing to be charitable with someone else's money or time. isn't it?

    i used to spend my time in charity shops volunteering and was good at it for a while, that was a long time ago. helping to sell stuff to others and what little goes to the cause but i was doing my part. I'm just a little concerned by the lack of an instant response to these events in Texas.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    And just to add a bit more realism: instead of focussing on Cryptic, why not focus on the American government?

    They are the ones who are supposed to assist the victims (and even better, prevent such things from happening through prevention). And they have a bit more money than Cryptic. Of course that would require setting priorities, maybe moving away from building walls or waging wars to actually work on your own country and build some proper defenses against flooding.

    Which would be a crazy thing to do, I know. Or maybe it wouldn't be that crazy. Either way, it's probably more logical and effective to try that. It works here in the Netherlands, it can work in your country as well.

    Not questioning your good intentions OP, but I think more success can be had through other strategies.

    Is it more cost-effective to maintain flood defenses or deal with the aftermath of a flood that happens every hundred years or so? The conditions in America is not the same as the Netherlands so building up flood defenses might be government waste for the US, but a necessity for the Netherlands. Harvey is a freak disaster that no one could have predicted especially with how quiet Hurricanes have been for the past few years. We simply don't know where and when the next major disaster will hit.

    Also, there is the issue of which government is responsible for deciding whether flood defenses are necessary. Is the local, state, or federal level of government responsible? There is a reason why it is called the United States of America and not America.
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