What's wrong with the skin? I was tooling around in my T5U Excelsior the other day and didn't notice anything off about it.
It's a bit dated compared to other ship models that have come out in recent years, both original and canon designs. Look at old shots of the Galaxy, Defiant, Sovereign, ect., and compare them to the revamps we have now. The old ones look like dinky little plastic toys compared to the new ones. I'm grateful we have so many of these updates considering that these are done in the devs' spare time.
Ah, I see. That's a fair cop. Maybe, eventually. Used to really love my Excelsior before T6 ships came along. Unfortunately, my Archon blows it out of the water.
If they changed that Ensign station on the Resolute to a universal and refreshed the excelsior skin, that would be a huge boost for the now forgotten Excelsior class.
The Resolute's BoFF layout remains the worst of all available T6 ships. They did an awful job on that one, refreshing the skin alone isn't enough. They can make it look as beautiful as humanly possible and I still wouldn't buy the Resolute.
Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.
I was about to suggest that regarding the Yaeger-thing
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Am I crazy for thinking that, four nacelles aside, the Concorde with a Geneva saucer looks closer to the Excelsior than the Resolute? The Excelsior was never meant to have swept pylons and a pointy saucer.
Which is a shame because I love the Excelsior, whenever I do a character that runs cruisers I pick it over the vanilla tier 3 whose name I cannot remember every time.
Admiral Katrina Tokareva - U.S.S. Cosmos, Yorktown-class Star Cruiser Admiral Dananra Lekall - R.R.W. Teverresh, Deihu-class Warbird General J'Kar son of K'tsulan - I.K.S. Dlahath, Vo'devwl-class Carrier
Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.
All just matter of opinion. Personally, I think that the Excelsior is hands down the best looking fed ship aside from maybe the Sovereign. Everyone should be able to fly what they like.
Am I crazy for thinking that, four nacelles aside, the Concorde with a Geneva saucer looks closer to the Excelsior than the Resolute? The Excelsior was never meant to have swept pylons and a pointy saucer.
Agreed, the Resolute doesn't look like the Excelsior at all. Only way to fly one is with the Excelsior skin. Too bad the ship has such a horrible BoFF layout.
I'd have unquestionably bought the Resolute (albeit using the proper Excelsior skin) if the BOFF layout wasn't so awful. I tend to agree with the view that it's the worst 'upgrade' of a canon ship to T6 that we've seen so far.
Ironic really that in STO T6 terms at least, the Excelsior is outclassed by the Miranda.
Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.
I was about to suggest that regarding the Yaeger-thing
I knew you would. Sadly I cannot help cure your particular form of insanity .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I knew you would. Sadly I cannot help cure your particular form of insanity .
Neither can I help you to see the light. So sad.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I knew you would. Sadly I cannot help cure your particular form of insanity .
Neither can I help you to see the light. So sad.
Oh I have seen the light. The light of one thousand quantum torpedoes heading to every single Excelsior Class around.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Oh I have seen the light. The light of one thousand quantum torpedoes heading to every single Excelsior Class around.
I can live with that. Although I like her pot belly
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
If they changed that Ensign station on the Resolute to a universal and refreshed the excelsior skin, that would be a huge boost for the now forgotten Excelsior class.
The Resolute's BoFF layout remains the worst of all available T6 ships. They did an awful job on that one, refreshing the skin alone isn't enough. They can make it look as beautiful as humanly possible and I still wouldn't buy the Resolute.
^ This. I was so disappointing by both these things. The Excelsior skin isn't as terrible as some of the other old ones that got redone, but it has a few problems and could do with a refresh. Additionally, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) it's the only classic ship that didn't end up with a universal slot. Making that one ensign station universal would make a huge difference. I used to fly the Excelsior quite a bit (was my favorite ship) a couple years ago, but it is so underwhelming now that I tend to only fly one or two missions with it before dumping it back into drydock.
Give it a 23rd Century and 24th Century looks as choices like with the Mirandas
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Additionally, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) it's the only classic ship that didn't end up with a universal slot. Making that one ensign station universal would make a huge difference.
I just checked, it's actually worse than that. The only other tier 6 ship PERIOD that lacks a universal slot of any kind is the Dauntless. For some reason completely beyond me, they decided that these two ships didn't need a universal BOff station.
Admiral Katrina Tokareva - U.S.S. Cosmos, Yorktown-class Star Cruiser Admiral Dananra Lekall - R.R.W. Teverresh, Deihu-class Warbird General J'Kar son of K'tsulan - I.K.S. Dlahath, Vo'devwl-class Carrier
Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.
I quite like it.
My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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It's a bit dated compared to other ship models that have come out in recent years, both original and canon designs. Look at old shots of the Galaxy, Defiant, Sovereign, ect., and compare them to the revamps we have now. The old ones look like dinky little plastic toys compared to the new ones. I'm grateful we have so many of these updates considering that these are done in the devs' spare time.
Unfortunately, it wasn't. I often wonder if we'll ever get one at this point.
The Resolute's BoFF layout remains the worst of all available T6 ships. They did an awful job on that one, refreshing the skin alone isn't enough. They can make it look as beautiful as humanly possible and I still wouldn't buy the Resolute.
i would like to see some TLC for the excelsior class ships as well.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I was about to suggest that regarding the Yaeger-thing
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Which is a shame because I love the Excelsior, whenever I do a character that runs cruisers I pick it over the vanilla tier 3 whose name I cannot remember every time.
Admiral Dananra Lekall - R.R.W. Teverresh, Deihu-class Warbird
General J'Kar son of K'tsulan - I.K.S. Dlahath, Vo'devwl-class Carrier
All just matter of opinion. Personally, I think that the Excelsior is hands down the best looking fed ship aside from maybe the Sovereign. Everyone should be able to fly what they like.
Agreed, the Resolute doesn't look like the Excelsior at all. Only way to fly one is with the Excelsior skin. Too bad the ship has such a horrible BoFF layout.
Ironic really that in STO T6 terms at least, the Excelsior is outclassed by the Miranda.
I knew you would. Sadly I cannot help cure your particular form of insanity .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Neither can I help you to see the light. So sad.
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Oh I have seen the light. The light of one thousand quantum torpedoes heading to every single Excelsior Class around.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I can live with that. Although I like her pot belly
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^ This. I was so disappointing by both these things. The Excelsior skin isn't as terrible as some of the other old ones that got redone, but it has a few problems and could do with a refresh. Additionally, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) it's the only classic ship that didn't end up with a universal slot. Making that one ensign station universal would make a huge difference. I used to fly the Excelsior quite a bit (was my favorite ship) a couple years ago, but it is so underwhelming now that I tend to only fly one or two missions with it before dumping it back into drydock.
I quite like it.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I just checked, it's actually worse than that. The only other tier 6 ship PERIOD that lacks a universal slot of any kind is the Dauntless. For some reason completely beyond me, they decided that these two ships didn't need a universal BOff station.
Admiral Dananra Lekall - R.R.W. Teverresh, Deihu-class Warbird
General J'Kar son of K'tsulan - I.K.S. Dlahath, Vo'devwl-class Carrier
My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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One change is all it needs.....
It was an amazingly dumb thing to do. I quit the game over it for a few months and only came back because of the T6 Connie and the other TOS ships.
I am happy I disappointed you.
And, just to annoy you.