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Miracle Worker Ships (Naming Convention)

So, with the announcement of the new "Miracle Worker" Primary Specialization, it seems inevitable that we'll be getting ships that not only have seating for those new powers, but also ships with unique mechanics dedicated to that specialization.

While this might be semantics, I'm curious about what everyone's thoughts on the naming convention for such ships is.

Do you want to be flying literal "Miracle Cruisers", "Miracle Science Vessels", "Miracle Raiders", "Miracle Winnebago Patrol Death Trap Retrofits", etc. around?
Do you have a better suggestion for a suitable Prefix name?


(Personally speaking, I think it sounds a bit silly, although perhaps a bit less silly than the Pilot prefix - something I wish they would have used a different name for. I realize there's something to be said for "the name's on the tin", but I can't help but think something like "Resilient Destroyer" or "Reinforced Carrier" would be a more apt and immersive designation for these kinds of ships.)
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    Doesn't bother me. As its a reference to Scotty of TOS.

    Resilient / Reinforced might fit the bill more aptly, but they don't do anything for me personally, they sound a bit boring.

    I like the nod to Scotty.
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    My theory in-game is they will be under the auspices of the Starfleet Corps of Engineers, and Alliance equivalents.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Could be secondary spec like the Commando and Strategist were? They didn't have a ship class for them.
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    I see it more as one off prototype ships not yet mass produced. Like the *shudders* Excelsior..... Sorry Captain Geko, I know you love that ship but I just can't make myself love it.
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10597534

    At the very bottom:
    ..and a powerful new Primary Specialization called the “Miracle Worker.”

  • bossheisenbergbossheisenberg Member Posts: 603 Arc User
    Out of all the awesome announcements made today, all you care about is whether they are going to call the new ships "Miracle" ships? ....who cares?
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    Out of all the awesome announcements made today, all you care about is whether they are going to call the new ships "Miracle" ships? ....who cares?

    Basically, this. Who cares?

    Tons of awesome announcements came out, along with a couple giveaways coming up. Skaaants!
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    Primary specialization yest. But Intel, Command and Temporal specialization primaries have matching ships. Now I'm not saying this will warrant a new ship class, or even specialization boff seating. It could be like Strategist and what not. Yes I know I left pilot out of my example.
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  • hillard1959hillard1959 Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    Out of all the awesome announcements made today, all you care about is whether they are going to call the new ships "Miracle" ships? ....who cares?

    Basically, this. Who cares?

    Tons of awesome announcements came out, along with a couple giveaways coming up. Skaaants!

    Giveaways. Skant bad. Skant bad at all.

  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    What's wrong with the short hand "worker spec?"
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    Part of me just facepalms. Evidently Engineer captains hadn't been marginalized enough...
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    Out of all the awesome announcements made today, all you care about is whether they are going to call the new ships "Miracle" ships? ....who cares?

    Despite how my included personal opinion might be misinterpreted, this is not intended to be a complaint thread. It's intended to be an open "discussion". I am genuinely curious what other people think about how specialized ships are named. There hasn't been an official announcement regarding what these new ships will eventually be called, so there's (potentially) a chance for player input to help shape things - now is the time to discuss it.

    (Similiarly, desires for future reputation content would probably be a good topic to discuss because they're probably in the middle of working/planning the next one now.)
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    Part of me just facepalms. Evidently Engineer captains hadn't been marginalized enough...

    engineers do seem to have a lancer's luck. and personally gonna try the new spec on my one engineer character, he doesn't have one I find fitting yet.


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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    Doesn't bother me. As its a reference to Scotty of TOS.

    Resilient / Reinforced might fit the bill more aptly, but they don't do anything for me personally, they sound a bit boring.

    I like the nod to Scotty.

    Same.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,667 Community Moderator
    nikeix wrote: »
    Part of me just facepalms. Evidently Engineer captains hadn't been marginalized enough...

    Eh... I don't know about "marginalized". But I can see this Miracle Worker spec making an Engie even TANKIER.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nikeix wrote: »
    Part of me just facepalms. Evidently Engineer captains hadn't been marginalized enough...

    Eh... I don't know about "marginalized". But I can see this Miracle Worker spec making an Engie even TANKIER.

    I think I like it. Considering how many peeps complain about the lack of purpose as well as the S13 options as far as tanking is concerned I’m happy to see that Cryptic dedicates some effort into it.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    What's wrong with the short hand "worker spec?"
    As long as we get the queen spec next, nothing. B)
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    The first ship is going to be a T7 Galaxy to go with that bridge. :p
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    The first ship is going to be a T7 Galaxy to go with that bridge. :p

    Considering the unlove the Galaxy usually gets I would assume it would get a T5 Galaxy for the mission. Then see the unveiling of the T7 Excelsior.

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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    I'm imaging something that gives lots of heals combined with say, strategist to speed up skills when using heals will let you hull-tank Borg command ship plasma bolts. :)
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    feiqa wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    The first ship is going to be a T7 Galaxy to go with that bridge. :p

    Considering the unlove the Galaxy usually gets I would assume it would get a T5 Galaxy for the mission. Then see the unveiling of the T7 Excelsior.

    Ha! You want unloved? Nova. Class.

    You do understand I was being silly, right?

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • cptfweeblecptfweeble Member Posts: 9 New User
    edited August 2017
    Scotty got the Enterprise out of many situations, and not always just by fixing things. Miracle Worker specialisation could include non shield/hull skills as well. Essentially a bunch of short term boosts to various offensive, defensive and science based skills.

    At the moment all we have is the name, without more context alternatives like resilient may be off the mark.

    Maybe they could be Montgomery class ships, covers all bases, well except other factions I suppose lol
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    feiqa wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    feiqa wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    The first ship is going to be a T7 Galaxy to go with that bridge. :p

    Considering the unlove the Galaxy usually gets I would assume it would get a T5 Galaxy for the mission. Then see the unveiling of the T7 Excelsior.

    Ha! You want unloved? Nova. Class.

    You do understand I was being silly, right?

    No. Because sarcasm translates into text form extremely poorly and there were no emotes or anything to indicate you were not being serious.

    Seriously?

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Nova. Class.

    And one serious comment.
    I wish you luck. You have been the banner waver for a T6 Nova since I think T6 was announced. They make one I will buy one.


    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
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    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    "Miracle Worker" will be primary specialization so this means Fed, KDF, Romulan ships with this primary specialization seating. I predict them to be primarily Cruisers, esp. the faction versions. Also, this will mean an assortment of Lobi / Lockbox / Promo ships to feature the spec, with varying levels of spec access.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    "Miracle Worker" will be primary specialization so this means Fed, KDF, Romulan ships with this primary specialization seating.
    Or at least Fed.

    See also, temporal spec.
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nikeix wrote: »
    Part of me just facepalms. Evidently Engineer captains hadn't been marginalized enough...

    Eh... I don't know about "marginalized". But I can see this Miracle Worker spec making an Engie even TANKIER.

    I 'spose...but what you describe moves from marginalizing to pigeonholing. The s13 changes to captain powers to make them more distinct and make engineers quantifiably the best in self-healing and power management were just a good first step.

    All this said, 2 of my 9 toons have enough banked spec points to grab the entire spec day 1, so I intend to give it a good go.
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    I'm imaging something that gives lots of heals combined with say, strategist to speed up skills when using heals will let you hull-tank Borg command ship plasma bolts. :)

    I'd love more of a space version of what I do on ground with the Omega shield, improved crouch, and gambling device for more than 100% dodge chance. Expand on the Eng crafting school trait by allowing people with this spec to avoid damage in sort of a soft-counter way or recover more quickly through improved hull regeneration (which I still want all sources to list as '% of max/min in combat' and have displayed in the stat window).

    As for the original post, I could see 'Resilient" as an adjective, or always using the full name of the spec, 'Miracle Worker'. Shortening it to 'Miracle' is something a lot of people will probably do unofficially anyway, but it seems kind of cutesy or fantastical/magic.
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