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DISCOVERY & IT'S EFFECT ON STO:
captainperkins
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So I'm excited for Star Trek Discovery. I know I'm not the only STO'er who will shell out cash for the new ships and uniforms as well as weapons we're bound to see in Discovery, to come to Star Trek Online. The one thing that I have been bothered by however, is that due to the contemporary needs of younger audiences us older trek fans have to watch Discovery massacre our beautiful 23rd century designs... There's something to be said for glowing jewel buttons and that retro-futurism seen in the 1960's world fair, that Thomas and team have done such a great job of keeping alive in STO.
With Thomas' new Constitution Refit we see the bonus Cage Era Constitution (with the clunkier bridge and impulse elements as well as the warp nacelles with those antennae on them... This is important because Star Trek Discovery takes place at the same time as that old Enterprise with the antennae on the nacelles. So already we are seeing some links in to Discovery time line/Cage era timeline appearing in STO.
We have a BEAUTIFUL K13 fleet holding with special TOS fleet technology. What I am going to suggest is to tap in to that story to bring discovery in. Also, in the mean time can we please consider getting Cage era Laser Pistols as well as the Cage uniforms (those sweater looking turtle necks we see worn by the actors in Axanar fan film.) It would be great to have cage era excursion jackets as well. It would be especially fun if a kit could be purchased to beam down one of those ground based laser canons that channels the ships power like we see Number 1 use to sheer off the rock face and save Captain Pike... These cage era goodies would usher in a discovery timeline nicely and complete the K13 fleet holding as in TOS we would often see Cage era laser pistols used by stationed personnel as well as the old uniforms still worn by certain fleet members.
I realize that a lot of players hate the idea of going "backward" in time and featuring old trek so much. I argue that if we only had new Trek STO would cease to feel like star trek. Even if the old series wasn't and isn't your aesthetic, you can still appreciate it. I also like what the Dev's say about STO being a virtual Trek Theme Park, which means there's room for all forms of Trek. Do you guys think Discovery will be added to STO and if so would you be open to honoring the Cage era and having STO tell a story that ties Discovery in to original trek (provided Discovery leaves some gaps.)?
With Thomas' new Constitution Refit we see the bonus Cage Era Constitution (with the clunkier bridge and impulse elements as well as the warp nacelles with those antennae on them... This is important because Star Trek Discovery takes place at the same time as that old Enterprise with the antennae on the nacelles. So already we are seeing some links in to Discovery time line/Cage era timeline appearing in STO.
We have a BEAUTIFUL K13 fleet holding with special TOS fleet technology. What I am going to suggest is to tap in to that story to bring discovery in. Also, in the mean time can we please consider getting Cage era Laser Pistols as well as the Cage uniforms (those sweater looking turtle necks we see worn by the actors in Axanar fan film.) It would be great to have cage era excursion jackets as well. It would be especially fun if a kit could be purchased to beam down one of those ground based laser canons that channels the ships power like we see Number 1 use to sheer off the rock face and save Captain Pike... These cage era goodies would usher in a discovery timeline nicely and complete the K13 fleet holding as in TOS we would often see Cage era laser pistols used by stationed personnel as well as the old uniforms still worn by certain fleet members.
I realize that a lot of players hate the idea of going "backward" in time and featuring old trek so much. I argue that if we only had new Trek STO would cease to feel like star trek. Even if the old series wasn't and isn't your aesthetic, you can still appreciate it. I also like what the Dev's say about STO being a virtual Trek Theme Park, which means there's room for all forms of Trek. Do you guys think Discovery will be added to STO and if so would you be open to honoring the Cage era and having STO tell a story that ties Discovery in to original trek (provided Discovery leaves some gaps.)?
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There's no way I'm paying for Matlock Online just to get one show that might be great, or might need to be "hauled away AS garbage."
We might get some Discovery content later this year (November, December) though. It all depends on how negotiations went between Cryptic and CBS.
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Yep. ^This.
Pretty bad when CBS makes me pay for CBS streaming on top of Netflix when the rest of the world only needs Netflix. A CBS show that won't be on CBS lol.
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Preemptively inoculating them with an excuse for the show's failure?
I am a Physical Media Only since that wonderful "experience"
What? It's not 1987 - and we're not talking about how TNG was initially received back then by the majority of Star Trek fans in that year...oh, wait...
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Just went through the all access show list and most I can watch on hulu or netflix or dvr OTR. But if you like it that's cool too.
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Except TNG was in its own era...it wasn't trying to rewrite history with ugly ships that don't look like they even remotely belong and completely mutating races that already have established images.
But nice try!
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
You're welcome not to read
Oh, and I mentioned the space footie jammies from the first two seasons, right? I mean, apparently by the 24th century we're teaching calculus to grade-school children, but Starfleet officers haven't mastered tying their shoes or even pulling on their boots...
(I'm old enough to remember the fighting. As well as the complaints about DS9, and how they couldn't tell any stories because "they don't go anywhere!")
TNG trod new ground, so it had variations. The makers of Discovery specifically chose the time period of 10 years prior to Kirk and the Enterprise, they specifically chose to say that the series was being set in the Prime Timeline, but they then go out of their way to produce content which would be perfectly fitting in either the Kelvin Timeline, or 10 years after Nemesis.
I believe they only chose that time period because it's what Axanar were doing. I believe, they've gone with the Kelvin Timeline-esque aesthetics, because that's the aesthetic folks are most used to seeing from recent Trek productions, and I also believe, as I've said before, that this will be a series which will be 'Star Trek' in name-only, like the recent Baywatch movie. It might have the named characters, and the plot reads (I haven't seen it) like any episode of the series, albeit with a more comedy spin, and yet apparently, it absolutely bombed. (and I'm not surprized, because audiences seem to be getting sick of reboot/makes) I'm sure they chose to use Star Trek, rather than Adventures in Space (or even Space Command) as the flagship show for the streaming service, because they know that Trek fans are the geese which keep laying the golden egg, and will shell out for anything with the magic words in the title
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
But there is no point because people will still evade the truth...because it doesn't suit their argument.
They saw how good JJTrek is doing and this is basically their way to rewrite everything...like I've said multiple times before this is a obvious "Our Trek or no Trek"
People who are supporting this obviously aren't fans of Star Trek or you'd actually care how much they're utterly butchering it to turn it into what *THEY* think Star Trek should be.
Even JJ was more loyal to established canon than this show is...and it took place in a different universe.
Sorry there is more TNG (I put DS9 and Voyager in this due to events in both having effects across the board and take place all at the same time.) content here then anything else.
Oh god no... those are 100% JJ universe. CBS is lying through it's teeth about this being set in the TOS universe.
Sorry no to this "Trek fans are the geese which ... will shell out for anything with the magic words in the title". Star Wars fans that would be true look at the drek 1,2,3, were along with the "special editions that Lucas spewed out instead of new stories and the rewrite of Episode 3 that JJ Star Wars The Force Awakens was. Those are the mindless geese shelling out cash for TRIBBLE with the magic title Star Wars in it.
As far as the look goes it is to comply with Neu Trek and ignores pretty much everything in all the series before it.
This line "I'm not a huge fan of the Kelvin timeline." is kind of funny given you have a JJ ship in your comments.
Nah that would be most of TNG and all of DS9.