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Thoughts on Coalition Disruptors?

Whenever you go build diving, you invariably see these, and basically nothing else. Of course, if someone wants to run Tetryons or Phased Polarons or so on, they can. They'll be doing substantially less DPS, but many players don't care.

But putting that aside for the moment, do you have an opinion on these things? Are they good or bad for the overall health of the game? Don't care? Makes you wish you could strip off mods and install them on other weapons? Other random thoughts?

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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    Disruptor is generally in a very good place right now.
    Various very good sets, good weapon variety (though a nausicaan DHC is sorely missing) and most of that is also pretty easy to get. Coalition is good but no must have, though if you're going hardcore into a dis build you'll want them as well. Terran weapon, nausicaan set, some counter command stuff, maybe the preserver weapon and lots of coalition weapons.
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  • postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
    1 Basically don't care if top DPSers have some elite barely obtainable gear and put up nutty numbers in premades.
    2 Don't care if premade teams of pvp experts use these to crush each other or not.
    3 Some top dpsers are actually mixing coalition disruptor, regular disruptors and disruptor torp, so maybe they do have a use for regular people.
    4 Its best not to get too caught up in beam type unless going for a particular role on a build.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    It adds variety and it does not affect the health of the game. For the longest time Anti-Proton has been and still is the energy type a lot of players still gravitate towards. They are much less expensive than Coalition Disruptors especially since they can be crafted and therefore Anti-Proton energy weapons are more ubiquitous. Coalition Distruptors will not "destroy" the game, just like how Antiproton didn't.

    I have two captains (Fed & KDF) that use CD beams, I got them their sound effects more than anything else. Though I would like to try CD dual cannons, but they are rather expensive.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,717 Community Moderator
    Coalition Disruptors are one of the better types of Disruptors, especially for other disruptor builds. The standard Disruptor proc is I believe a -5% resist debuff across the board. Meaning it lowers resistances to all damage types by 5%. Coalition Disruptors have a -10% resist disruptor debuff. Meaning it trades the other damage types for an increase in the debuff for Disruptor damage.

    So if you have a full team of disruptor builds, having a Coalition user will benefit the team. Get a FULL team of Coalition users... it gets even more brutal.

    Is it the end all damage type? No. Neither was Antiproton, and many people swear by it. Any damage type works. Even Tetryon. However Coalition Disruptor is pretty high up on the desirability list for DPS.
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  • bossheisenbergbossheisenberg Member Posts: 603 Arc User
    I've got a full set of elachi and coalition disruptor dual cannons and turrets with dmg X 4. These things go through ships like a knife through hot butter.
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    Are you a casual or serious gamer, and what's your playstyle?

    Literally any and every weapon type or combination works. Disruptors are easy to support because of the availibility of free or cheap ship gear which supports them.

    If DPS is your thing, I recommend you follow the latest cookie cutter build for that. Otherwise, I highly recommend you try alternate builds. Outside of DPS you will find a sweet spot between fun and effectiveness that works for you.

    My Fed Sci toon followed the meta of Science Torp Boat already going out of style in Season 5. I was never a top performer, but my teammates carried me through to earn the Borg 3 piece with the MACO shield which was not so simple back then.

    My Klink Tac toon was a BoP disruptor cannon build when Phasers reigned supreme and Antiprotons were still out of reach of all but the elites. Lousy at PvP because I can't fly a BoP. (Really. They put a handicap parking spot for me in orbit of Qo'nos.) Simply shreds anything in PvE.

    Romulans were tough for me because I wanted to use my battlecloak in battle. (Bad idea.)

    With a variety of plasma builds behind me I went full Antiproton and never looked back. By this time I was becoming an experimentalist and found ways to support Tetryon and Polaron builds. My AoY toon is a Tet/Drain build that is begining to show promise.

    So, if you are a DeePSer, yes, Coalition Disruptors are good. If not, they are still good, easy to support weapons. But other weapons and builds can be fun too.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,706 Arc User
    I've got a full set of elachi and coalition disruptor dual cannons and turrets with dmg X 4. These things go through ships like a knife through hot butter.

    Sure, but so does the Tetryon set on my Scryer, the Polaron set on my Jem'Hadar dread, the TOS phasers on my Paradox and Arbiter, the Romulan Plasmas on my Xindi escort, .... hot knives each and all. Mark XIV VR/UR/Epic matters more than beam type or mods outside of premades working in sync.

  • kostamojenxkostamojenx Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    It only matters if you are chasing elite DPS numbers. ANY weapon type can pull off 60-70k DPS in Season 13 no problem.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Only bad thing about Coalition Disruptiors is their firing audio. It's very annoying. Their proc is great and the blue is pretty. ;) I pair them up with my Spiral Wave Disruptors.
  • gannadenegannadene Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    Only bad thing about Coalition Disruptiors is their firing audio. It's very annoying. Their proc is great and the blue is pretty. ;) I pair them up with my Spiral Wave Disruptors.

    Well, on that I think everyone agrees. They sound like the mouth noises you made for finger lasers in 3rd grade.

    Dealing with horrible fx for certain weapon types will be a reality until a more robust visual slot system shows up. The way antiproton DHCs make "clacking" noises still drives me crazy, after years of hearing it. Really wish I could just change their visuals to phasers...
  • shadowwraith#9264 shadowwraith Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    wish us console players could get the non-standard issue ones as i quite like the coalition disruptors but cannot upgrade the ones from the krenim science vessel.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    Im a fan of the cardassian spiral wave dis have them on my intel dread along with the naus 3 piece and the terran space set.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Coalition Disruptors are one of the better types of Disruptors, especially for other disruptor builds. The standard Disruptor proc is I believe a -5% resist debuff across the board. Meaning it lowers resistances to all damage types by 5%. Coalition Disruptors have a -10% resist disruptor debuff. Meaning it trades the other damage types for an increase in the debuff for Disruptor damage.

    So if you have a full team of disruptor builds, having a Coalition user will benefit the team. Get a FULL team of Coalition users... it gets even more brutal.


    If I recall correctly, the latter actually isn't true. Way I remember it, the debuff proc on your Coalition Disruptors gets reduced to 0 even, when there are already 5 Coalition Disruptor procs on the target.
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    Let my science guy in there with all those stacked res debuffs.

    In today's meta everyone comes in with the same plan: shoot holes in stuff. Back in the day we had to use teamwork. Disruptors are a team support weapon. They make your target juicier for everybody on your team. Plus, you know, the boom. Disrupters make things go boom.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,568 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    Im a fan of the cardassian spiral wave dis have them on my intel dread along with the naus 3 piece and the terran space set.

    Your sig makes me think I logged in to a Star Trek stripper bar.

    As for the disruptors, I like standard disruptors over coalition. I'd rather buff all damage and support the team better but that's my choice.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,717 Community Moderator
    gannadene wrote: »
    Well, on that I think everyone agrees. They sound like the mouth noises you made for finger lasers in 3rd grade.

    Dealing with horrible fx for certain weapon types will be a reality until a more robust visual slot system shows up. The way antiproton DHCs make "clacking" noises still drives me crazy, after years of hearing it. Really wish I could just change their visuals to phasers...

    I can't stand the sound of a full loadout of TOS phasers. IT BURNS!
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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