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The ONLY fair way to give the T6 connie the new T6 Miranda skin!

If you haven't heard, they are re-making the Miranda class model. It's currently on tribble. Here are some pics:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/6auik6/new_miranda_model_plus_saratoga_variant/

They don't re-make old low tier ships for no reason, so this obviously means they are making a T6 Miranda. And it will just as obviously be in a lock box or R&D promo pack(hopefully the latter).

Seeing this new skin, some people say "hey, can we get that new skin on our TMP connies"?

I say there is only ONE fair way to give this new skin to the TMP connies:

If you own BOTH the t6 TOS connie AND the new t6 Miranda, then you get to unlock the new skin on your connie.

This makes sense!
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    I'd rather see it via lockbox, and NOT an RD promo box.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    Or in the lobi store with a special pack containing the console and trait for KDF and Rom, like the Vengeance and NX refit.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator

    I say there is only ONE fair way to give this new skin to the TMP connies:

    If you own BOTH the t6 TOS connie AND the new t6 Miranda, then you get to unlock the new skin on your connie.

    This makes sense!

    Actually... no. That does NOT make sense, as the T2 Cruiser has TMP Connie as an option for parts. Therefor you are gating everyone who has, or will have, the T2 Connie OUT of a model revamp, which makes no sense. When they redid the model for every other ship, they did not gate it behind having something else to get the new model.
    • They did NOT gate the remodel of the Galaxy behind owning the Andromeda.
    • They did NOT gate the remodel of the Sovereign behind owning the Archon or Vizier.
    • They did NOT gate the remodel of the Akira behind owning the Armitage.
    • They did NOT gate the remodel of the Nebula behind owning the Sutherland.
    • They did NOT gate the remodel of the NX behind owning the NX Refit.

    The only ship that didn't get a remodel when a T6 was released to my knowledge was the Excelsior. Other than that, pretty much every other pre existing ships of lower tiers that have higher tier counterparts have gotten a remodel to make them more canon looking. If they remodel the TMP Connie, it will not be gated behind a Miranda and the promo Temporal Connie. It will be across the board for everyone.
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    T6 Miranda needs to be in the C-store. to hades with the lockbox/R&D/Lobi idea.

    With the huge number of people that have been wanting a T6 Miranda forever, of course it's going to be either lockbox or R&D. No way Cryptic is going to pass up on that kind of money by putting it in the C-store.....damnit.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    My guess would be there's a new zeni-store T6 light escort released with lots of fanfare over a relatively small hull with a heavy weapon slot, and it'll be able to wear the revised Miranda skin. Hopefully available as part of a 3-pack of light escorts for all three factions.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    nikeix wrote: »
    My guess would be there's a new zeni-store T6 light escort released with lots of fanfare over a relatively small hull with a heavy weapon slot, and it'll be able to wear the revised Miranda skin. Hopefully available as part of a 3-pack of light escorts for all three factions.

    Except that the Miranda is classified as a "Light Cruiser" in game. How does making it a light escort work? We already have a light escort, in the C-Store NX.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    The new one can be classed a light escort.

    Escorts are the new hawtness, same as we had a year of science ships. The old Miranda is so tiny it's almost 'gender-neutral' to begin with. Saying its century-plus evolution was to go 'moar dakka!' ain't a real stretch.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    Well... KDF has been getting some attention more lately in ships. Generally with the ships they make crossfaction bundles for there is a KDF variant. Hell... KDF FINALLY got their Vesta equivalent x3 with the T6 Multi-Mission bundle.

    As for the Klingon "warbird", which I believe was admitted to be an error on the movie writers part, Probably if they do a Kelvin Box 2, alongside the Kelvin or Franklin type starship for Feds and probably another Cryptic design for Romulans.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    arionisa wrote: »
    T6 Miranda needs to be in the C-store. to hades with the lockbox/R&D/Lobi idea.

    ^this
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    If they do a T-6 Miranda it should be made available like the TOS Constitution was... 1 in 100000 boxes... Joking I know on paper the odds were better but yeah that was a big up yours to the fans of Star Trek.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nikeix wrote: »
    My guess would be there's a new zeni-store T6 light escort released with lots of fanfare over a relatively small hull with a heavy weapon slot, and it'll be able to wear the revised Miranda skin. Hopefully available as part of a 3-pack of light escorts for all three factions.

    Except that the Miranda is classified as a "Light Cruiser" in game. How does making it a light escort work? We already have a light escort, in the C-Store NX.

    Nope NEVER a c-store it should be done just like th cluster F the TOS ships were so Miranda fans have to agonize over getting one if ever. On the Lockbox market for a few weeks the gone forever.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nikeix wrote: »
    My guess would be there's a new zeni-store T6 light escort released with lots of fanfare over a relatively small hull with a heavy weapon slot, and it'll be able to wear the revised Miranda skin. Hopefully available as part of a 3-pack of light escorts for all three factions.

    Except that the Miranda is classified as a "Light Cruiser" in game. How does making it a light escort work? We already have a light escort, in the C-Store NX.

    Nope NEVER a c-store it should be done just like th cluster F the TOS ships were so Miranda fans have to agonize over getting one if ever. On the Lockbox market for a few weeks the gone forever.

    Why the hostility?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    If you haven't heard, they are re-making the Miranda class model. It's currently on tribble. Here are some pics:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/6auik6/new_miranda_model_plus_saratoga_variant/

    They don't re-make old low tier ships for no reason, so this obviously means they are making a T6 Miranda. And it will just as obviously be in a lock box or R&D promo pack(hopefully the latter).

    Seeing this new skin, some people say "hey, can we get that new skin on our TMP connies"?

    I say there is only ONE fair way to give this new skin to the TMP connies:

    If you own BOTH the t6 TOS connie AND the new t6 Miranda, then you get to unlock the new skin on your connie.

    This makes sense!

    That Miranda looks amazing.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    arionisa wrote: »
    T6 Miranda needs to be in the C-store. to hades with the lockbox/R&D/Lobi idea.

    With the huge number of people that have been wanting a T6 Miranda forever, of course it's going to be either lockbox or R&D. No way Cryptic is going to pass up on that kind of money by putting it in the C-store.....damnit.

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    Yep, SOD the boxes, I say.
    Not to mention just for the idea of the folks hording ships denied the chance to ask for blackmail prices will be worth that alone.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    I vote for 'no' for a T6 Miranda. All these old tiny ships shouldn't have a max tier version. They don't have the mass. Just look at the 'historic' progression of starship sizes. Newer, more powerful ones are larger.

    I know no one at Cryptic has that opinion, so I'm sure if they think they can make some money off of it it will be done at some point. So my alternate vote would be to stick it in some uber-rare box so I don't see a bunch of them running around.
    arionisa wrote: »
    With the huge number of people that have been wanting a T6 Miranda forever,

    :hushed: Really?! Now the Connie I can understand; but really?! There's a 'huge' number wanting a Miranda? I'd think more of a 'very vocal minority' over a huge number.

    And thanks, smokebailey, for the :cookie:
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    :hushed: Really?! Now the Connie I can understand; but really?! There's a 'huge' number wanting a Miranda? I'd think more of a 'very vocal minority' over a huge number.

    And thanks, smokebailey, for the :cookie:

    T5 (before there was T6) / T6 Miranda requests were so common, just like endgame Connie threads that Cryptic didn't like those threads.

    Anyways, we got TOS & ENT era ships at T6 now, so the floodgates are open.
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  • darakossdarakoss Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    I vote for 'no' for a T6 Miranda. All these old tiny ships shouldn't have a max tier version. They don't have the mass. Just look at the 'historic' progression of starship sizes. Newer, more powerful ones are larger.

    I know no one at Cryptic has that opinion, so I'm sure if they think they can make some money off of it it will be done at some point. So my alternate vote would be to stick it in some uber-rare box so I don't see a bunch of them running around.
    arionisa wrote: »
    With the huge number of people that have been wanting a T6 Miranda forever,

    :hushed: Really?! Now the Connie I can understand; but really?! There's a 'huge' number wanting a Miranda? I'd think more of a 'very vocal minority' over a huge number.

    And thanks, smokebailey, for the :cookie:

    Hmmm...Defiant is roughly the same size as a Miranda. Intrepid is a little larger than a Constitution. Excelsior is bigger than a Nova. It's not the mass. It's tech put into the ship.
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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    I vote for 'no' for a T6 Miranda. All these old tiny ships shouldn't have a max tier version. They don't have the mass. Just look at the 'historic' progression of starship sizes. Newer, more powerful ones are larger.

    I know no one at Cryptic has that opinion, so I'm sure if they think they can make some money off of it it will be done at some point. So my alternate vote would be to stick it in some uber-rare box so I don't see a bunch of them running around.
    arionisa wrote: »
    With the huge number of people that have been wanting a T6 Miranda forever,

    :hushed: Really?! Now the Connie I can understand; but really?! There's a 'huge' number wanting a Miranda? I'd think more of a 'very vocal minority' over a huge number.

    And thanks, smokebailey, for the :cookie:

    Miranda is canonically no smaller than the Defiant class, which packed the best firepower in the fleet into a small package. Size doesn't determine combat capability, it determines how comfortable a ship is and how many amenities it has like crew comforts, science labs, cargo capacity, etc. If a Defiant can be T6 at its size so can the Miranda if packed with modern equipment.

    It's amazing that so many people try to completely ignore this.

    All the main ships after TNG were much small in size leaving TNG ships as oversized space whales.
  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    At this point, there is no reason not to have all ships at T6 or better. Most of the ones that are popular will end up being gated behind some expensive wall. That's what happens when STO jumps the shark.

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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Well... KDF has been getting some attention more lately in ships. Generally with the ships they make crossfaction bundles for there is a KDF variant. Hell... KDF FINALLY got their Vesta equivalent x3 with the T6 Multi-Mission bundle.

    As for the Klingon "warbird", which I believe was admitted to be an error on the movie writers part, Probably if they do a Kelvin Box 2, alongside the Kelvin or Franklin type starship for Feds and probably another Cryptic design for Romulans.

    Yeah the Klingon "Vesta" is nice stat wise but OMFG why a Gorn ship? I won't be using them just for that alone! Seriously what did they do look at a semi crumpled cardnoard box and go yeah that will make a good looking Klingon ship... Has all the charecter of a wet brown paper bag. It bugs the hell out of me they can do some great Klingon ships looks wise but then release some fugly things like these.
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