You can complain all you want about what they call it, but it is in FACT a T6 Connie. Now, save your Dil or Zen or EC and go buy one and ret-con whatever backstory you like to explain how you got it and how it keeps up.
Personally, I don't have an issue with the old hulls being in game as much as I do the ships from the 29th - 31st century. All with the same level of power and capabilities as "modern" 25th century ships. Old designs can be rebuilt with all new internals keeping only the outside look,... how do you explain a ship 6 full centuries ahead, not simply wiping anything and everything aside?
It would be like taking a modern Frigate or Aircraft carrier back to the time of Columbus and it being defeated by the Spanish or British navy,.. NEVER. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
BTW, my AoY Andorian flies a T6 NX class,... so the moral is, do and fly what you like and be glad they gave it to you at all. For the longest time the answer to "Can we have a T6 Connie and NX?" was a flat and emphatic, HELL NO!
I got lucky in the lottery and ended up with one when they were released. Love it and it's the only reason I'm still playing this game.
You can, today, buy any number of replica Model T vehicles, either as a DIY kit or as a complete operational vehicle. Replica starships may be a stretch, but with everyone saying energy is free, man hours don't matter, and entropy doesn't exist, (outside of specific episodes in which it plays some part,) I say why not?
Then there is the "genuine original article" club which insists their hull is still operational after hundreds of years. Sure, a late production hull of a class superceeded by a newer class might have been mothballed, or a time traveller may have stolen one from earlier in the timeline, or an ancient hull may have been renovated to stock condition, or whatever. Again I say why not?
The fact that I headcanon my game one way and you headcanon it your way does not detract from my enjoyment of the game.
I am not sorry that some players want options the game does not offer. I personally want my low tier ships to have a use outside of Admiralty or PvP with pre-arranged conditions, but there you go. I am sorry that some players don't choose to adapt what exists in game then headcanon the rest.
It is, after all, a choice. You can be happy or you can be unhappy. After you make that choice, the details really don't matter.
Off Topic Rant:
If there were level 60 content designed for Tier 2 ships, the old Connie would be as valuable today as it was when it was the only TOS ship which players could get. We need content which will make low tier ships a good option, not T6 everythings.
No model T replica is approved for use on the highway. In fact, nobody in their right mind would drive a model T at modern highway speeds.
Then take the B road next to the Highway.... There are more roads then just a Highway !!! ;-)
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"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
Ok for all the NAY Sayers out there, cars can rebuild right. Once I had a Golf GTI mark 1 in the shop for repairs he smiled and told me to look under the hood, witch I did.
There was a brand new GTI type 5 motor under his hood they made some mods to the car to withstand the stress on the frame. Bud it did work out and the car performed very well I have to say. so why couldn't they do this with space ships.
To be exact the took Enterprise in for some upgrades, DS9 the space station did upgrades even it was cardessian's they did it. Defiant went to dock for a rebuild. Voyager is more then once upgraded. So why would the Devs make new ships if they could upgrade the older ones to modern time. So before you start flaming on this post about old cars, learn history, learn trek then you would known not to comment or flaming on this post. And besides all of this respect other gamer's and let them have their fun and when there is enough support for a ship it's up to Cryptic to decide if ships will be made in T6 models.
And that folks was this post about getting support for more T6 versions of TOS ships.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
You can complain all you want about what they call it, but it is in FACT a T6 Connie. Now, save your Dil or Zen or EC and go buy one and ret-con whatever backstory you like to explain how you got it and how it keeps up.
Personally, I don't have an issue with the old hulls being in game as much as I do the ships from the 29th - 31st century. All with the same level of power and capabilities as "modern" 25th century ships. Old designs can be rebuilt with all new internals keeping only the outside look,... how do you explain a ship 6 full centuries ahead, not simply wiping anything and everything aside?
It would be like taking a modern Frigate or Aircraft carrier back to the time of Columbus and it being defeated by the Spanish or British navy,.. NEVER. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
BTW, my AoY Andorian flies a T6 NX class,... so the moral is, do and fly what you like and be glad they gave it to you at all. For the longest time the answer to "Can we have a T6 Connie and NX?" was a flat and emphatic, HELL NO!
Yepperoni. ~crams a cookies into Corelogik's mouth~ I'm loving the NX I got for my Vulcan, and it's a vicious little beast.
And to those who get upset about older ships in the game, and kicking butt............no one is forcing you to use them....so, take a deep breath, and relax, enjoy the ships you like to use, while those of us sinners 'who don't make sense' enjoy ours, mmmmkay?
You can complain all you want about what they call it, but it is in FACT a T6 Connie. Now, save your Dil or Zen or EC and go buy one and ret-con whatever backstory you like to explain how you got it and how it keeps up.
Personally, I don't have an issue with the old hulls being in game as much as I do the ships from the 29th - 31st century. All with the same level of power and capabilities as "modern" 25th century ships. Old designs can be rebuilt with all new internals keeping only the outside look,... how do you explain a ship 6 full centuries ahead, not simply wiping anything and everything aside?
It would be like taking a modern Frigate or Aircraft carrier back to the time of Columbus and it being defeated by the Spanish or British navy,.. NEVER. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
BTW, my AoY Andorian flies a T6 NX class,... so the moral is, do and fly what you like and be glad they gave it to you at all. For the longest time the answer to "Can we have a T6 Connie and NX?" was a flat and emphatic, HELL NO!
edit: question, does the NX one have the NX bridge??
I want of those too for my AoY character. Alas the price was/is too high for me so I went with the NX instead. Since I had the Lobi saved up. Been saving Lobi for literally years since there's not much in the Lobi store I ever actually wanted.
As for the NX bridge, no it does not have a unique bridge. That's the only disappointing part about it honestly. Considering the price, you'd think it would have one though like the other Lobi store ships do. I use one of the "defiant-esque" bridges on mine. It's about as close as you can get unless you have/get the ToS bridge. Next time I log that character, Ill check the exact bridge I use and post back.
Edit: I use the Victory bridge on my NX.
Yep, I use a Defiant bridge on the NX myself, a smaller, more enclosed bridge seems to fit it good. I like the one with the red carpet the most Which color is the Victory one?
Ok for all the NAY Sayers out there, cars can rebuild right. Once I had a Golf GTI mark 1 in the shop for repairs he smiled and told me to look under the hood, witch I did.
There was a brand new GTI type 5 motor under his hood they made some mods to the car to withstand the stress on the frame. Bud it did work out and the car performed very well I have to say. so why couldn't they do this with space ships.
To be exact the took Enterprise in for some upgrades, DS9 the space station did upgrades even it was cardessian's they did it. Defiant went to dock for a rebuild. Voyager is more then once upgraded. So why would the Devs make new ships if they could upgrade the older ones to modern time. So before you start flaming on this post about old cars, learn history, learn trek then you would known not to comment or flaming on this post. And besides all of this respect other gamer's and let them have their fun and when there is enough support for a ship it's up to Cryptic to decide if ships will be made in T6 models.
And that folks was this post about getting support for more T6 versions of TOS ships.
Plus the Lakota was an old ship that was, essentially, customized, right? And that thing gave the Defiant a run for the latinum, if I remember.
Well did the new Privateer Lockbox ship and new Lobi ship get a unique Bridge? If so, the NX should have too. The only reason it wouldn't have would mean that a more comprehensive package (like Voyager/Pathfinder 2410) was on the horizon. (Or they figured people would slobber all over each other to get a T6 NX and didn't need to do squat).
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'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
You can complain all you want about what they call it, but it is in FACT a T6 Connie. Now, save your Dil or Zen or EC and go buy one and ret-con whatever backstory you like to explain how you got it and how it keeps up.
Personally, I don't have an issue with the old hulls being in game as much as I do the ships from the 29th - 31st century. All with the same level of power and capabilities as "modern" 25th century ships. Old designs can be rebuilt with all new internals keeping only the outside look,... how do you explain a ship 6 full centuries ahead, not simply wiping anything and everything aside?
It would be like taking a modern Frigate or Aircraft carrier back to the time of Columbus and it being defeated by the Spanish or British navy,.. NEVER. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
BTW, my AoY Andorian flies a T6 NX class,... so the moral is, do and fly what you like and be glad they gave it to you at all. For the longest time the answer to "Can we have a T6 Connie and NX?" was a flat and emphatic, HELL NO!
edit: question, does the NX one have the NX bridge??
I want of those too for my AoY character. Alas the price was/is too high for me so I went with the NX instead. Since I had the Lobi saved up. Been saving Lobi for literally years since there's not much in the Lobi store I ever actually wanted.
As for the NX bridge, no it does not have a unique bridge. That's the only disappointing part about it honestly. Considering the price, you'd think it would have one though like the other Lobi store ships do. I use one of the "defiant-esque" bridges on mine. It's about as close as you can get unless you have/get the ToS bridge. Next time I log that character, Ill check the exact bridge I use and post back.
Edit: I use the Victory bridge on my NX.
Yep, I use a Defiant bridge on the NX myself, a smaller, more enclosed bridge seems to fit it good. I like the one with the red carpet the most Which color is the Victory one?
I use the smaller defiant bridges on most of my ships along with the small layout. Exceptions are my Fed Battlecruiser and my actual Defiant ship I got the Belfast for,...
"Go play with your DPS in the corner, I don't care how big it is." ~ Me "There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
You can complain all you want about what they call it, but it is in FACT a T6 Connie. Now, save your Dil or Zen or EC and go buy one and ret-con whatever backstory you like to explain how you got it and how it keeps up.
Personally, I don't have an issue with the old hulls being in game as much as I do the ships from the 29th - 31st century. All with the same level of power and capabilities as "modern" 25th century ships. Old designs can be rebuilt with all new internals keeping only the outside look,... how do you explain a ship 6 full centuries ahead, not simply wiping anything and everything aside?
It would be like taking a modern Frigate or Aircraft carrier back to the time of Columbus and it being defeated by the Spanish or British navy,.. NEVER. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
BTW, my AoY Andorian flies a T6 NX class,... so the moral is, do and fly what you like and be glad they gave it to you at all. For the longest time the answer to "Can we have a T6 Connie and NX?" was a flat and emphatic, HELL NO!
edit: question, does the NX one have the NX bridge??
I want of those too for my AoY character. Alas the price was/is too high for me so I went with the NX instead. Since I had the Lobi saved up. Been saving Lobi for literally years since there's not much in the Lobi store I ever actually wanted.
As for the NX bridge, no it does not have a unique bridge. That's the only disappointing part about it honestly. Considering the price, you'd think it would have one though like the other Lobi store ships do. I use one of the "defiant-esque" bridges on mine. It's about as close as you can get unless you have/get the ToS bridge. Next time I log that character, Ill check the exact bridge I use and post back.
Edit: I use the Victory bridge on my NX.
Yep, I use a Defiant bridge on the NX myself, a smaller, more enclosed bridge seems to fit it good. I like the one with the red carpet the most Which color is the Victory one?
I use the smaller defiant bridges on most of my ships along with the small layout. Exceptions are my Fed Battlecruiser and my actual Defiant ship I got the Belfast for,...
YEP! I use the red one...for some reason red carpet is so pimp, I feel!
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I've heard this story before but never seen evidence it is true.
Cryptic has said a number of times that CBS vetoed things like a T6 connie for such reasons.
No, Cryptic said for years CBS vetoed a TOS Constitution Class - BUT Cryptic never elaborated CBS reason for doing so.
Formerly known as Armsman from June 2008 to June 20, 2012 PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
I think it's safe to assume the OP meant c-store wise.
Because CBS said no, as they don't feel like TOS or ENT era ships should be that powerful unless they are kept rare.
Which is why Cryptic had to resort to lockbox ships, and special limited time promos, to release them.
You completely missed the point of my post, I clearly wasn't asking for the reason why there are no T6 TOS ships, I was pointing out what I believe the OP was trying to say.
Various lead designers have also blamed CBS throughout the years in podcast interviews. I've heard it over and over on Priority One, although I stopped listening to that a long time ago.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
This is Star Trek, people have their favorite era they want to play. Not everyone cares about the the games in-game current era, TOS fans like to play the ship from their favorite trek show! Its that simple. If it makes the customer happy and spending more on the game, thats what counts. I like TOS and TNG era, neither match up with the games era, but I dont care! Its fun for me
Except TNG does match up...ships are built to last...the Galaxy was built to last a whole century if I recall. Where as the TOS Connie didn't even last a fourth of that long before they were straight out replacing it with the refit.
It was lazy reuse but can be considered canon, that 24th century ships were seen all the way to the 26th century in the battle of Procyon V.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
Give it up already, it wasn't funny the first time.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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I got lucky in the lottery and ended up with one when they were released. Love it and it's the only reason I'm still playing this game.
Then take the B road next to the Highway.... There are more roads then just a Highway !!! ;-)
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
There was a brand new GTI type 5 motor under his hood they made some mods to the car to withstand the stress on the frame. Bud it did work out and the car performed very well I have to say. so why couldn't they do this with space ships.
To be exact the took Enterprise in for some upgrades, DS9 the space station did upgrades even it was cardessian's they did it. Defiant went to dock for a rebuild. Voyager is more then once upgraded. So why would the Devs make new ships if they could upgrade the older ones to modern time. So before you start flaming on this post about old cars, learn history, learn trek then you would known not to comment or flaming on this post. And besides all of this respect other gamer's and let them have their fun and when there is enough support for a ship it's up to Cryptic to decide if ships will be made in T6 models.
And that folks was this post about getting support for more T6 versions of TOS ships.
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
Yepperoni. ~crams a cookies into Corelogik's mouth~ I'm loving the NX I got for my Vulcan, and it's a vicious little beast.
And to those who get upset about older ships in the game, and kicking butt............no one is forcing you to use them....so, take a deep breath, and relax, enjoy the ships you like to use, while those of us sinners 'who don't make sense' enjoy ours, mmmmkay?
And you can exhale that deep breathe, now. o.o
Yep, I use a Defiant bridge on the NX myself, a smaller, more enclosed bridge seems to fit it good. I like the one with the red carpet the most
Plus the Lakota was an old ship that was, essentially, customized, right? And that thing gave the Defiant a run for the latinum, if I remember.
And I'd love to see that car you mentioned......
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Nom's the offered cookies,...
It's the tan-ish one. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Escort_Bridge#Victory
I use the smaller defiant bridges on most of my ships along with the small layout. Exceptions are my Fed Battlecruiser and my actual Defiant ship I got the Belfast for,...
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
YEP! I use the red one...for some reason red carpet is so pimp, I feel!
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Bad CBS, BAD! ~grabs whip~
~whips CBS~ Call me QUEEN!!!!!
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
No, Cryptic said for years CBS vetoed a TOS Constitution Class - BUT Cryptic never elaborated CBS reason for doing so.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Absolutely my dude!
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/1020330-ask-cryptic_-november-2012
Credit to this reddit post which gave a summary of a lot of the old quotes about an in game connie:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/2cgc90/may_as_well_get_this_thread_out_the_way_t6/cjf7xmd/
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Huzzah! More Irrelevant Pat Robertson/Dental smeg!
And what you do with my artwork, Valoreah, is your business.
Anyhow, I do like the idea of c store ship skins one could use.
Except TNG does match up...ships are built to last...the Galaxy was built to last a whole century if I recall. Where as the TOS Connie didn't even last a fourth of that long before they were straight out replacing it with the refit.
It was lazy reuse but can be considered canon, that 24th century ships were seen all the way to the 26th century in the battle of Procyon V.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'