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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    Yes, its totally contrived that the woman who is responsible for Gaius' implants in the first place (he was a Tal Shiar experiment after all) would have a backdoor in them, even when she mentions she always has a backdoor in her projects.
    Plot Contrivance follows Sela around like fleas. The number of situations that have lined up to get Sela where she is today is mind boggling. If Sela needs a mind control device for a character, she has one. If she needs the Republic to be rife with traitors and spies, it's done. If she needs the loyal members of the Republic to be incompetent, the story provides. Whatever needs to be done so Sela can continue her obnoxious story arc, the writer provides. It's hack level garbage.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    redvenge wrote: »
    Yes, its totally contrived that the woman who is responsible for Gaius' implants in the first place (he was a Tal Shiar experiment after all) would have a backdoor in them, even when she mentions she always has a backdoor in her projects.
    Plot Contrivance follows Sela around like fleas. The number of situations that have lined up to get Sela where she is today is mind boggling. If Sela needs a mind control device for a character, she has one. If she needs the Republic to be rife with traitors and spies, it's done. If she needs the loyal members of the Republic to be incompetent, the story provides. Whatever needs to be done so Sela can continue her obnoxious story arc, the writer provides. It's hack level garbage.

    just gonna ignore that Sela is not and was not Tal Shiar? She allied with them briefly as Empress but even then Ha'skeevy thought nothing of telling her 'nope'
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    anazonda wrote: »
    stark2k wrote: »
    They haven't ended the Daniel and Nah'kul story arc yet, that one is in limbo.
    Except they did end it.

    The Na'Kuhl got their homeworld back after the ENT-J used the super charged Tox Uthat to reignite the Na'Kuhl star.

    Na'Kuhl are even shown as being members of the Federation in the far future.

    I am not sure what game it is you are playing, but that did not happen in STO.
    Yes it did, read the damn story blogs.
    ok go take a kindle fire and hack the NSA, I'll wait.... cause thats about what she did
    Except it isn't, and that is one of the most dishonest and disengious comparisons you have ever made, and that is saying something for you.

    no... it isn't
    While the common function of these Federation PADDs was most often straight forward data entry or data retrieval, some PADDs were capable of more artistic tasks. Multiple PADDs, often larger in size than most of their counterparts, were used to draw up schematics or to create composite images or artwork. PADDs were also capable of predictive text functions, allowing users to enter a small amount of data to achieve full words or even sentences. In addition, a stylus could be used for text entry. PADDs could also order a site-to-site transport. PADDs may have been capable of sending text messages to other PADDs, based on events seen in a daydream of The Doctor's.

    its an e-reader with a side dish of maybe drawing and texting.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    its an e-reader with a side dish of maybe drawing and texting.

    Yep, an E-reader can TOTALLY order a site to site teleport.

    Totally.

    And my car cooks eggs too!

    more likely than using a PADD to hack a Borg's implants

    WAY more likely
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    I dont think it will be temporal... probably permanent...
    The forces of darkness are upon us!
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    just gonna ignore that Sela is not and was not Tal Shiar? She allied with them briefly as Empress but even then Ha'skeevy thought nothing of telling her 'nope'
    Sela is not Tal'Shiar, but she is clearly onboard the I.R.W. Khnial during the Romulan player's "indoctrination" in the mission Mind Games. With the revelation that she has "secret command codes" in Hakeev's computer, it is not that much of a stretch to assume she had access to his Borg data.

    How she gains control of Gaius is actually not obvious. She uses the PADD to send a subspace transmission to Gaius (she says "Gaius, I'm ready). Gaius was a Tal'Shiar operative to became assimilated by the Borg, and then he was rescued by the Republic. So, whatever it is that Sela did (whether she used the PADD to directly control Gaius, or had a spy slip "traitor subroutine codes" into his tea, is unknown). It does stand to reason that whatever she did to Gaius, she can do to any liberated Borg, because the story did not go into any details. I'm waiting for the next arc in which Sela becomes Grand Master of the Cooperative. Yay for shoddy writing.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    This is what I saw when I read your post...
    Guess it's time to restock my chocolate milk cow.

    Made me laugh. :D

    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • trejgontrejgon Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    redvenge wrote: »
    Yes, its totally contrived that the woman who is responsible for Gaius' implants in the first place (he was a Tal Shiar experiment after all) would have a backdoor in them, even when she mentions she always has a backdoor in her projects.
    Plot Contrivance follows Sela around like fleas. The number of situations that have lined up to get Sela where she is today is mind boggling. If Sela needs a mind control device for a character, she has one. If she needs the Republic to be rife with traitors and spies, it's done. If she needs the loyal members of the Republic to be incompetent, the story provides. Whatever needs to be done so Sela can continue her obnoxious story arc, the writer provides. It's hack level garbage.

    just gonna ignore that Sela is not and was not Tal Shiar? She allied with them briefly as Empress but even then Ha'skeevy thought nothing of telling her 'nope'

    Last time I checked in all her TNG apperances she have pronounced herself "Sela of Tal Shiar"
    yeah she never was Tal Shiar

    she was just random outsider canonically claiming to be Tal Shiar and commanding Tal Shiar operatives around....

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    trejgon wrote: »
    redvenge wrote: »
    Yes, its totally contrived that the woman who is responsible for Gaius' implants in the first place (he was a Tal Shiar experiment after all) would have a backdoor in them, even when she mentions she always has a backdoor in her projects.
    Plot Contrivance follows Sela around like fleas. The number of situations that have lined up to get Sela where she is today is mind boggling. If Sela needs a mind control device for a character, she has one. If she needs the Republic to be rife with traitors and spies, it's done. If she needs the loyal members of the Republic to be incompetent, the story provides. Whatever needs to be done so Sela can continue her obnoxious story arc, the writer provides. It's hack level garbage.

    just gonna ignore that Sela is not and was not Tal Shiar? She allied with them briefly as Empress but even then Ha'skeevy thought nothing of telling her 'nope'

    Last time I checked in all her TNG apperances she have pronounced herself "Sela of Tal Shiar"
    yeah she never was Tal Shiar

    she was just random outsider canonically claiming to be Tal Shiar and commanding Tal Shiar operatives around....

    STO expanded her background for its own canon
    In Star Trek Online, Sela became Proconsul in 2384, but was exiled from Romulus after losing a power struggle with the Tal Shiar.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    anazonda wrote: »
    stark2k wrote: »
    They haven't ended the Daniel and Nah'kul story arc yet, that one is in limbo.
    Except they did end it.

    The Na'Kuhl got their homeworld back after the ENT-J used the super charged Tox Uthat to reignite the Na'Kuhl star.

    Na'Kuhl are even shown as being members of the Federation in the far future.

    I am not sure what game it is you are playing, but that did not happen in STO.

    I assure you that it did.

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    Oh wait a minute, so closure comes from some lame RP blog written by someone from Cryptic studio? fck that TRIBBLE is lame.

    It is "NOT" in the actual game for non-RP folks to engage in - Calling foul on this one - So instead of finishing their story arc in game via "ACTUAL" programming and content - They resort to a blog of some type, where only a few actually read that TRIBBLE.

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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,901 Community Moderator
    stark2k wrote: »
    anazonda wrote: »
    stark2k wrote: »
    They haven't ended the Daniel and Nah'kul story arc yet, that one is in limbo.
    Except they did end it.

    The Na'Kuhl got their homeworld back after the ENT-J used the super charged Tox Uthat to reignite the Na'Kuhl star.

    Na'Kuhl are even shown as being members of the Federation in the far future.

    I am not sure what game it is you are playing, but that did not happen in STO.

    I assure you that it did.

    arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10091123-no-profit-but-the-name

    Oh wait a minute, so closure comes from some lame RP blog written by someone from Cryptic studio? fck that **** is lame.

    It is "NOT" in the actual game for non-RP folks to engage in - Calling foul on this one - So instead of finishing their story arc in game via "ACTUAL" programming and content - They resort to a blog of some type, where only a few actually read that ****.

    So, you're saying that Cryptic can write an Episode Mission that progresses the story and you're OK with it, but they cannot write a Story Blog that fleshs the story out more to accompany said Episode Mission? They've been doing these story blogs for quite some time now. There's all sorts of little details out there to be had.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    stark2k wrote: »
    Oh wait a minute, so closure comes from some lame RP blog written by someone from Cryptic studio? fck that **** is lame.

    It is "NOT" in the actual game for non-RP folks to engage in - Calling foul on this one - So instead of finishing their story arc in game via "ACTUAL" programming and content - They resort to a blog of some type, where only a few actually read that ****.
    The story arc is finished in-game. All parts relevent to the player, and the player's actions, are expressed from the begining of the Agents of Yesterday story arc, through Yesterday's War, and into Future Proof.

    The Na'Kuhl getting their sun back has nothing to do with you, and you have no reason to be even 300 more years in the future after Procyon V to see it.

    Also, everyone can reads the blog, they have them plastered all over the launcher every time they release one.
    Yeah, that's something all the story blogs have in common. The player isn't in them.
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  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 575 Arc User
    -T'Ket was word of god confirmed to be left alive to explain why the Iconian PVE queues still run even though the war is over. She is infrequently attacking Qo'nos every now and again, and her attacks are mentioned during the Future Proof arc. She just isn't much of a threat by herself.

    I'm fairly certain that's not how any of this works. When you play a PvE mission, you're just replaying an old mission over and over again. It's not a new mission or new attack on Qo'noS every single time. It's just the one attack you're replaying, similar to replaying a campaign mission. There is no reason why they would need an explanation for keeping the PvE queues going post-war. I mean, why give this one an explanation or excuse to keep this queue going? What excuse is there for Leeta attacking Deep Space Nine with Terok Nor over and over and over again? Or how many Crystalline Entities we blow up again and again and again and again? The answer is there is no excuse because we're not fighting more than one. We're just replaying the mission.

    As far as T'Ket being mentioned in-game post Iconian War, we have this from the Temporal Front.

    "You and I both know T'Ket is still out there, burning with the rage of a warrior in search of bortaS. Let us ensure she never serves that dread, cold dish!" - Kagran

    She definitely hasn't "served her dread" so she's still out there and they're not going to forget that. Personally I'd like to see her be connected to the Hur'q. If they are servitors to the Iconians, then she could always assume control of them. It could kill several birds with one stone that way.

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  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 575 Arc User
    Your "certainty" doesn't matter. Cryptic themselves said several times, shortly after Midnight came out and people asked abut it, this is why they kept her alive.

    Proof or it didn't happen.
    Remember that time we killed/incapacitated Leeta? Ohh wait, we didn't. She has every ability to keep attacking as part of her invasion of the Prime Universe.

    lol, yeah attack the same exact spot every single time. That's just incredibly stupid reasoning.

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  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 575 Arc User
    That isn't how anything works.

    In other words you have no proof so we should all just take your word for it.
    If you had played the game you would know she is attacking via the badlands because its the easiest spot to cross over.

    We're specifically talking about PvE queues, but you still can't convince me that she is using the same tactic over and over again, even though she continues to fail over and over again. As I said, that would be incredibly stupid.

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