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stoleviathan999
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i was thinking about the enterprise F in game and captain shon and i was wondering.
the "F" would be the 8th ship named enterprise. we know the "C" had a female captain.
so that means only 1 female captain out of 8 ships named enterprise.
why do you think they decided to go with another male captain for the enterprise F?
and as a bonus question why do you think they went with a male captain for the new show discovery?
so far every show but voyager has had a male captain, and they decided to do another one.
nothing wrong with it just wonderinngg what other people think.
the "F" would be the 8th ship named enterprise. we know the "C" had a female captain.
so that means only 1 female captain out of 8 ships named enterprise.
why do you think they decided to go with another male captain for the enterprise F?
and as a bonus question why do you think they went with a male captain for the new show discovery?
so far every show but voyager has had a male captain, and they decided to do another one.
nothing wrong with it just wonderinngg what other people think.
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As for your bonus question, have they confirmed the ST:D captain is male? The only captain's name I've heard was female - possibly a different ship though. Given the ideology being pushed by those behind the show it may be interesting to know why if they do indeed go with a permanent male captain.
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Technically, I believe Spock was captain of the Enterprise when TWOK started.
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Starfleet isn't a military and it's certainly not male dominated (excluding TOS and it's no female captains rule later retconed out). It seemed that by late TNG and most of DS9 that the writers seemed to be acting on a form of sexblind casting for characters, so you'd even get situations where disposable mooks were female which is rare on TV, especially in Sc-Fi.
That's racist and sexist. You judge a character on their merits, not on their race or sex. That's being a decent human 101. You know nothing about the character yet to be able to dismiss them.
If you mean you're board with seeing white males everywhere then you're in the wrong franchise. After TOS it seems Star Trek realised there was a world outside of the US and it shows.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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Also Jason Issac is not the main star of the Show I Believe a female is the lead character, and Jason Issac will probably be on the ship while the Female Commander does all the work...like how Riker did for Picard.
Also Brits are amazing and I love Jason Issac, and i could careless what gender or race someone is (except Bajorans), that's the whole point of Trek is not to focus on such trivial things, it's who can do a better job at whatever, and Jason Issac is awesome...hopefully he has better luck then he did in Event horizon
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You misunderstand me. While me wanting more protagonists of color in fiction is a factor (yes, I'm aware the series is supposedly going to focus on Sonequa Martin-Green as first officer, but given they already tried that format with Riker I question whether that will last), the main reason I object to it is that the majority of Earth's population is not white. For that matter, the way things are going that will be true just in North America within a couple of decades. So a setting purporting to represent Earth's future ought to have more color in it for realism's sake.
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As for Capt. Shon, he's Andorian, and I think STO's gone with the soft canon that Andorians have four genders, so is "he" male? Does the term even apply?
Sexism, discrimination based upon sex. Racism, discrimination based upon race or ethnicity. I see no side notes about needing to be of the opposite sex/race to discriminate based on those characteristics.
You don't know what the rest of the crew will consist of. For all you know it will be two thirds Chinese as in real life. Also, my your logic we've got a ethnic minority as captain in that case.
Trying to apply current race/ethnic debate to the future is pointless. It's far more likely we'll all just be some sort of beige or brown in a few hundred years. The problem with futurism is you cannot predict it due to the patterns by which humans procreate being unpredictable. They might not even be any Chinese people in 200 years and the Māori may be the most populous group for all we know.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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1. They tried that format once already: Riker, not Picard, was supposed to be the primary viewpoint character of TNG, but it didn't last the first season. Star Trek is traditionally captain-centric. I expect viewers and the camera are going to pay more attention to the guy in center chair than the XO standing off to the side.
2. According to some of the leaks, there's already been executive meddling worthy of Fox and Firefly. Bryan Fuller didn't quit, Les Moonves fired him for daring to complain that the fanbase wouldn't like the changes Moonves is insisting on, e.g. the new Klingons and ignoring canon set by TOS. That doesn't bode well for Fuller's intent to focus on Commander Rainsford.
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Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Most fans seems to be viewing Discovery through an old paradigm. We're so conditioned to gravitate towards the captain of a single ship. While Issacs will be playing the captain of the title ship, Discovery will not be about Issacs' character. Shoot, we could be following THREE ships instead of one, so one could argue that Discovery won't even be about the USS Discovery (at least, exclusively).
How about we reserve judgement until we actually see the show?
We could be watching something more akin to "Lower Decks: The Series" than a classic 7-person cast with captain as lead. It could be quite refreshing.
Yeah, I am sold on the show, already...at least, more interested in watching the pilot program.
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Doesn't Star Trek: Discovery take place 10 years before TOS? Having a non-human Starfleet Captain in that setting would feel weird considering that Starfleet crews in the TV series have been predominately human. You can't have Starfleet crews with a bunch of aliens, then have a Starfleet crew 10 years later with a token alien.
However, it feels like Star Trek: Discovery will not have a main crew, but will focus on a number of crews with maybe a couple of alien crews.