Wizkids themselves have said the there is a reprint coming this Febuary, but who knows if we'll actually see it...
And who knows if they'll have any codes on them? Wizkids can reprint all the game pieces they want, but wo knows how many / if any STO codes they can get.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
There are four shops in my area that carry Attack Wing. I went to all four of them they day the ship was released. Only one store received one model. Finding a stocking store is getting more and more difficult (I am also an Attack Wing player) and was hoping that there would be more STO and AW promos to increase popularity in both. If the ships would all be this difficult to find, then I don't want that.
Why not just ask wizkids if you're worried about the second reissue having codes? I asked during the first one, but I got my AW sovvie then, so I'm not gonna ask again.
You don't know what generation i come from so don't guess, you don't know what your talking about.
Again, earning money is aside the issue and irrelevant, see answer #1.
What's wrong with having a differing opinions that you have to argue with me? It's okay to have "exclusive" things. Things and players are all not equal.
How about "effort" or "footwork" in obtaining one. Rather then get out my card behind the computer and buy one from the Cstore.
Oh really? What about the "effort" or "footwork" or you know, "real work" people do in order to obtain real money to pay their credit card bill when they buy something from the C-Store? Or does that not count?
Frankly, i dont care about the welfare of the game or whatever.
The self-entitlement manifesto of the "me" generation.
I bothered and cared enough to track one down in real life and dont want to see the lazyies get one on a Cstore platter. Albiet at $30 dollars versus my $13.62.
So if I am understanding you correctly, anyone who works a job to earn real money so they can buy things is "lazy"? I just want to make sure.
While I don't have a problem with the Command Assault Cruiser becoming available to the general playerbase, I do take exception to your apparent devaluing of the work it took to get ahold of one of these ships. I spent more than the difference in the price of the AW ship and a C-Store ship, just in milage and travel time. Never mind the hour or so I spent trying to track down a store that could get me the ship. Even at minimum wage, I spent more in total time than the $30 a C-Store ship generally goes for. Yeah, I had to drive ~3 hours round trip to get to the store that ordered me my ship, ate up a big chunk of a day off. And the $$ for gas, a meal, and the ship itself? I had to spend real money that I had to do real work in order to earn.
In the end, I put more money (earned with work) and actual work into the ship in question than someone who might buy the same ship in the C-Store. If Cryptic decides to put the ship up for sale, so be it, but don't think for a second that anyone who just lays out $30 for the ship did anywhere near as much work as I did trying to get it.
"Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
I have been wondering about this recent addition to the Fleet starbase:
Mostly wondering if there's a restriction on it, that if you don't have the regular version, you can't requisition the Fleet version.
I'm not sure Cryptic would just give the fleet version of the ship away without having to first purchase the regular version.
Naturally, since I have the ship, it's going to appear as available to me.
So I can't get the data on how it appears to someone without the ship.
If someone who doesn't have it is kind to enough to investigate their starbase and post the results of their findings, it would be appreciated.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
You don't know what generation i come from so don't guess, you don't know what your talking about.
Again, earning money is aside the issue and irrelevant, see answer #1.
What's wrong with having a differing opinions that you have to argue with me?
It's okay to have "exclusive" things. Things and players are all not equal.
If the ship was readily available everywhere, and all that was required was simply going to the store, then I would understand your argument. The problem, however, is that many players live in areas with few, if any, stores that carry AW, and those stores that do carry it got very few, if any, of the Sovereign.
I myself am happy with the Intel variant, and have no desire for a cloak, however I do support the ship being made available another way, either through the C-Store or the Lobi store.
I have been wondering about this recent addition to the Fleet starbase:
Mostly wondering if there's a restriction on it, that if you don't have the regular version, you can't requisition the Fleet version.
I'm not sure Cryptic would just give the fleet version of the ship away without having to first purchase the regular version.
Naturally, since I have the ship, it's going to appear as available to me.
So I can't get the data on how it appears to someone without the ship.
If someone who doesn't have it is kind to enough to investigate their starbase and post the results of their findings, it would be appreciated.
It's a little alarming, actually, that if you have the non-Fleet version you still see the FSM cost as "5". Shouldn't that be "1"? Then again, the Mirror Guardian promo ship didn't discount the price of the Fleet Guardian, either. Not exactly apples to apples, but close enough, I suppose.
You have to buy something from the C-Store itself to get the Fleet Ship Module discount.
If you do find one Online make sure it is Attack Wing WAVE 27.
I pre-ordered mine from Flights of Fantasy in the Albany NY area. Got it the week it was first released. Hey, I found a place that I didn't know existed and turned out it was somewhat around the corner from where I worked before I retired last Summer.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
There are many possibilities for that Phoenix Pack. I know some of my Characters will need to use it to Claim whatever the prize is for the upcoming 'Into the Breach' Event. No way I can get 14 Characters through that.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I still have extra Voth operative transmissions from last time to give my captains a head start on the next one. Same with the Crystalline entity events. Having that extra latitude to get the next one done quickly is worth WAY more to me than the handful of marks you get for turning in in extras . I like the safety net in case I end up busy or offline during these things.
I still have extra Voth operative transmissions from last time to give my captains a head start on the next one. Same with the Crystalline entity events. Having that extra latitude to get the next one done quickly is worth WAY more to me than the handful of marks you get for turning in in extras . I like the safety net in case I end up busy or offline during these things.
Some events have been getting updated where you can't use last year's extra earnings; not sure if this will become one of those or not.
That doesn't apply to the 21-day Events like Crystal, Mirror, or Breach. They are not concerned about the so-called 'hording' for those. No Ship give-aways.
I usually try to save up some from one run to make the next a bit shorter. Not that concerned about the extra Marks and Dilithium from the small bonus projects.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
If the ship was readily available everywhere, and all that was required was simply going to the store, then I would understand your argument. The problem, however, is that many players live in areas with few, if any, stores that carry AW, and those stores that do carry it got very few, if any, of the Sovereign.
So what you're saying is all people did was go to the store and get lucky it was in stock. I don't equate that to "hard work" in any sense.
I don't either, but some seem to think it is just because they called everywhere in driving distance and got lucky at some random store.
Personally, I just think people would be a bit miffed if the ship went into the store, despite the announcement not saying it would be available exclusively through Wizkids and not through some other way.
Personally, I don't see an issue with it going into the store, as-is the intel variant of the Sovvie is better, and the console and trait are pretty meh (although I personally find the console entertaining).
My only reasoning is that it's a fairly new exclusive. Therefore it might get in the C-store, but not for a while yet. The cross-promotion agreement probably states that the ship must remain exclusive for X amount of time, otherwise people wouldn't buy the mini.
Therefore, I wouldn't expect it in the C-store for at least the next few months, if at all.
I run a game store here in Wisconsin. Wizkids is out of them, we game stores are out of them. Wizkids has been re-issuing ships lately, with horrendous repaints, but they have not announced another Sovereign--reissue or repaint. So it is effectively nonexistent. eBay is your best option.
Just out of curiosity, how is the Intel version better then the Command version?
I specifically sought out the WizKids Command version because the BOFF stations allowed me to port my skill layout from my T5 Sovereign to the T6 version unchanged.
Well, almost unchanged, I got Gravity Well as a Bonus!
A secondary consideration is that my primary Specialisation is Command, so I have no interest in Intel vessels for that reason.
There is one thing that disappointed me though, as far as I know, my Romulans could not claim this ship for their Admiralty roster, because all T6 Starfleet ships are locked out.
If anyone knows differently, please let me know.
To be honest, I don't care if this ship goes in C-Store at some point.
Like those of us who bought the actual physical model just get it before everyone else. Convenience, not priviledge.
And in my case, necessity, because the existing C-Store variants of the Sovereign didn't allow me to transfer my skill layout.
But from a business standpoint, I can't see WizKids authorising this action.
Basically, they're getting increased sales of this model because it comes with the code.
So if it goes into C-Store, Cryptic gets the money, not WizKids.
As an aside, as long as I can get the models/codes, I wouldn't mind if WizKids did more promotions like this.
But it would have to be assessed on a case by case basis, if I actually needed the ship in question or not.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
Personally, I find the Intel powers more useful than the Command ones. Intel Team is a God-send for those STFs where you need to 'interact' with something where getting shot disrupts it. Like dropping bombs, closing gates, etc.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
Just out of curiosity, how is the Intel version better then the Command version?
I specifically sought out the WizKids Command version because the BOFF stations allowed me to port my skill layout from my T5 Sovereign to the T6 version unchanged.
And in my case, necessity, because the existing C-Store variants of the Sovereign didn't allow me to transfer my skill layout.
The layouts of the Command and Intel Sovereigns are, quite literally, identical except for the specialization of the Lieutenant Commander slot.
Whats more is either the Intel or Command Sovereigns would have allowed you to port your build over from the T5U Sovereign as the only change in BoFF abilities is the addition of the Lieutenant Commander level ability to the universal seat on the T6 Sovereigns. I know this because I ported my build straight from my T5U Sovereign.
As far as specializations go, what you use as a spec doesnt really matter unless you use bridge officer abilities from that spec. I could conceivably fly a Command ship while having Intel as my primary spec, as I dont use any command BOff abilities. So if you dont use Command BOff abilities then you had no reason to seek out the Command Sovereign, seeing as you say you ported your T5U build + grav well Im going to assume that you dont use Command abilities, in which case the Intel Sovereign would have done you just as much good.
How many former "exclusive" items are now in the C-Store?
Um... I can't think of ANY right off hand. Oh. Wait. The Steamrunner I guess.
The Borg Boff, the Rivera Tribble...Mirror Universe Uniforms... they put a lot of former exclusives from pre-orders and different game versions into the c-store at some point.
The Borg Boff, the Rivera Tribble...Mirror Universe Uniforms... they put a lot of former exclusives from pre-orders and different game versions into the c-store at some point.
Cool. Good to have examples for comparison. Any ships other than the steamrunner?
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The reprint of it that they did in December (when I got mine) had a code.
And who knows if they'll have any codes on them? Wizkids can reprint all the game pieces they want, but wo knows how many / if any STO codes they can get.
No it does not count.
You don't know what generation i come from so don't guess, you don't know what your talking about.
Again, earning money is aside the issue and irrelevant, see answer #1.
What's wrong with having a differing opinions that you have to argue with me?
It's okay to have "exclusive" things. Things and players are all not equal.
While I don't have a problem with the Command Assault Cruiser becoming available to the general playerbase, I do take exception to your apparent devaluing of the work it took to get ahold of one of these ships. I spent more than the difference in the price of the AW ship and a C-Store ship, just in milage and travel time. Never mind the hour or so I spent trying to track down a store that could get me the ship. Even at minimum wage, I spent more in total time than the $30 a C-Store ship generally goes for. Yeah, I had to drive ~3 hours round trip to get to the store that ordered me my ship, ate up a big chunk of a day off. And the $$ for gas, a meal, and the ship itself? I had to spend real money that I had to do real work in order to earn.
In the end, I put more money (earned with work) and actual work into the ship in question than someone who might buy the same ship in the C-Store. If Cryptic decides to put the ship up for sale, so be it, but don't think for a second that anyone who just lays out $30 for the ship did anywhere near as much work as I did trying to get it.
Mostly wondering if there's a restriction on it, that if you don't have the regular version, you can't requisition the Fleet version.
I'm not sure Cryptic would just give the fleet version of the ship away without having to first purchase the regular version.
Naturally, since I have the ship, it's going to appear as available to me.
So I can't get the data on how it appears to someone without the ship.
If someone who doesn't have it is kind to enough to investigate their starbase and post the results of their findings, it would be appreciated.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
If the ship was readily available everywhere, and all that was required was simply going to the store, then I would understand your argument. The problem, however, is that many players live in areas with few, if any, stores that carry AW, and those stores that do carry it got very few, if any, of the Sovereign.
I myself am happy with the Intel variant, and have no desire for a cloak, however I do support the ship being made available another way, either through the C-Store or the Lobi store.
It's a little alarming, actually, that if you have the non-Fleet version you still see the FSM cost as "5". Shouldn't that be "1"? Then again, the Mirror Guardian promo ship didn't discount the price of the Fleet Guardian, either. Not exactly apples to apples, but close enough, I suppose.
If you do find one Online make sure it is Attack Wing WAVE 27.
I pre-ordered mine from Flights of Fantasy in the Albany NY area. Got it the week it was first released. Hey, I found a place that I didn't know existed and turned out it was somewhat around the corner from where I worked before I retired last Summer.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I know I'd be VERY excited if the phoenix box ultimate prize list included the Mirror Guardian.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Some events have been getting updated where you can't use last year's extra earnings; not sure if this will become one of those or not.
I usually try to save up some from one run to make the next a bit shorter. Not that concerned about the extra Marks and Dilithium from the small bonus projects.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I don't either, but some seem to think it is just because they called everywhere in driving distance and got lucky at some random store.
Personally, I don't see an issue with it going into the store, as-is the intel variant of the Sovvie is better, and the console and trait are pretty meh (although I personally find the console entertaining).
Therefore, I wouldn't expect it in the C-store for at least the next few months, if at all.
Um... I can't think of ANY right off hand. Oh. Wait. The Steamrunner I guess.
I wouldn't mind if this was an option. I just want the console to complete the 3 piece set.
I specifically sought out the WizKids Command version because the BOFF stations allowed me to port my skill layout from my T5 Sovereign to the T6 version unchanged.
Well, almost unchanged, I got Gravity Well as a Bonus!
A secondary consideration is that my primary Specialisation is Command, so I have no interest in Intel vessels for that reason.
There is one thing that disappointed me though, as far as I know, my Romulans could not claim this ship for their Admiralty roster, because all T6 Starfleet ships are locked out.
If anyone knows differently, please let me know.
To be honest, I don't care if this ship goes in C-Store at some point.
Like those of us who bought the actual physical model just get it before everyone else.
Convenience, not priviledge.
And in my case, necessity, because the existing C-Store variants of the Sovereign didn't allow me to transfer my skill layout.
But from a business standpoint, I can't see WizKids authorising this action.
Basically, they're getting increased sales of this model because it comes with the code.
So if it goes into C-Store, Cryptic gets the money, not WizKids.
As an aside, as long as I can get the models/codes, I wouldn't mind if WizKids did more promotions like this.
But it would have to be assessed on a case by case basis, if I actually needed the ship in question or not.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
The layouts of the Command and Intel Sovereigns are, quite literally, identical except for the specialization of the Lieutenant Commander slot.
Whats more is either the Intel or Command Sovereigns would have allowed you to port your build over from the T5U Sovereign as the only change in BoFF abilities is the addition of the Lieutenant Commander level ability to the universal seat on the T6 Sovereigns. I know this because I ported my build straight from my T5U Sovereign.
As far as specializations go, what you use as a spec doesnt really matter unless you use bridge officer abilities from that spec. I could conceivably fly a Command ship while having Intel as my primary spec, as I dont use any command BOff abilities. So if you dont use Command BOff abilities then you had no reason to seek out the Command Sovereign, seeing as you say you ported your T5U build + grav well Im going to assume that you dont use Command abilities, in which case the Intel Sovereign would have done you just as much good.
The Borg Boff, the Rivera Tribble...Mirror Universe Uniforms... they put a lot of former exclusives from pre-orders and different game versions into the c-store at some point.
Cool. Good to have examples for comparison. Any ships other than the steamrunner?