New MatHa raptor on x1

mkm1911

I've been having fun with the new MatHa raptor on x1. I didn't play my klingon characters too much because I never *really* liked any of the T6 ships.

Having said that, I'd like to see a klingon and romulan ship design break the "bird" mould the way the Definant broke the starfleet saucer, neck, body, 2 nacelle design.

Enough with the wings, neck, head thing. Try something different. These are human software designers, use your imagination.

meimeitoo

mkm1911#2674 wrote: »

Having said that, I'd like to see a klingon and romulan ship design break the "bird" mould the way the Definant broke the starfleet saucer, neck, body, 2 nacelle design.

Enough with the wings, neck, head thing. Try something different. These are human software designers, use your imagination.

Actually agree with that.

+1

kelador

They base ship designs for factions of the source material so them being human software designers has nothing to do with it, There are very few ships in the Romulan and Klingon cannon that are not based on birds I can think of the Romulan drone from enterprise and the Klingon attack ship from again Enterprise.

Klingon ship (still sorta bird like):



Romulan Drone Ship (Fish shaped? and sorta in the game already):

bergins

@kelador
Your first link is from a site that doesn't allow linking, it will be broken soon.
Your second link already appears to be broken.

kelador

@bergins Ty Fixed.

potasssium

Mah'ta is my favorite T6 C-store ship in the game, possibly my outright favorite in the game including Lockbox Ships.

I have a rule about not using the same ship on more than one character other than for learning the trait. Mat'ha trait isnt that great, but can have some fun if you match the trait from the Kolasi and SheShar on it, going with forward DBB, and the Disruptor Torpedo.

Not great for STF's but much fun in mission play. I grabbed the Hirogen Heavy Escort just for the quick 180° turn/flip, and put it on my Fleet Mat'ha so much fun & shenanigans.

nimbull

I'm flying a fleet Mat'ha right now though I don't use the special console from the store bought ship. I'm doing a disruptor beam crtdx4 + nausican disruptor torpedo and beam + Terran empire beam build. That thing is tearing through STFs quite nicely as well as red alerts and battle zones.

davefenestrator

nimbull wrote: »

I'm flying a fleet Mat'ha right now though I don't use the special console from the store bought ship. I'm doing a disruptor beam crtdx4 + nausican disruptor torpedo and beam + Terran empire beam build. That thing is tearing through STFs quite nicely as well as red alerts and battle zones.

That's crazy talk! A Mat'Ha without the WHAM! WHAM! WHAM! WHAM! * ships explode * of the spinal cannon is just not as fun.

mkm1911

@kelador

The reason I mentioned human software designers is because sto has already taken liberties with inventing ships. As far as "cannon" goes, Star Trek and Star Wars novels have always drifted from the cannon established in movies and tv.

With the fictional liberties some of these novels have taken, a simple ship design apart from wings and neck isn't all that big of a deal.

meimeitoo

mkm1911#2674 wrote: »

@kelador

The reason I mentioned human software designers is because sto has already taken liberties with inventing ships. As far as "cannon" goes, Star Trek and Star Wars novels have always drifted from the cannon established in movies and tv.

With the fictional liberties some of these novels have taken, a simple ship design apart from wings and neck isn't all that big of a deal.

Beam weapons are non-cannon too. :P

But all kidding aside, I support your notion of some variety.

davefenestrator

You can get some variety with the Temporal Cross-Faction pack once it hits X1, those are future KDF-Fed-Rom alliance ships.

You can also always get a lock box or lobi ship and pretend that it's Klingon

davefenestrator

patrickngo wrote: »

davefenestrator wrote: »

You can get some variety with the Temporal Cross-Faction pack once it hits X1, those are future KDF-Fed-Rom alliance ships.

You can also always get a lock box or lobi ship and pretend that it's Klingon

Those cross-faction ships are just Obese Wells classes that have been unlocked to avoid doing Klingon or Romulan ships outside a lockbox. (hell, they even default to "USS" on non-federation characters!)

Well, yeah. *I'd* never fly them, but then I like the bird-ships.

nightken

note the non klingon kdf ships have there own design styles and people have been asking for more of those.

flumf

Have you seen what happens on the rare occasion when Cryptic actually tries to deviate from more traditional designs for Fed, KDF, and Rom ships? People go nuts, they act like Cryptic has committed some unholy sin upon the Star Trek universe.

A good many people in the Trek fandom are rigid and obtuse, never wanting anything in the IP to ever change and see innovation in characterization, story-telling, and art design as things to be avoided.

meimeitoo

flumf wrote: »

Have you seen what happens on the rare occasion when Cryptic actually tries to deviate from more traditional designs for Fed, KDF, and Rom ships? People go nuts, they act like Cryptic has committed some unholy sin upon the Star Trek universe.

A good many people in the Trek fandom are rigid and obtuse, never wanting anything in the IP to ever change and see innovation in characterization, story-telling, and art design as things to be avoided.

Kinda torn a bit on the matter myself, really. At times I shake my head at ESD dock, seeing so many alien ships around me, at the heart of our Federation; and yet, at other times, I feel sick of seeing yet the umptiest saucer variant in the C-Store. Overall, I think the tip balances over to alien ships, for me, as I just love variety. But nothing beats the TOS-Connie, though.

thunderfoot

The Disruptor Rifle Which Thinks It Is A Ship is loads of fun to use. I have it in both versions on both of my KDF chars. I'd fly it on my Rommie too, if they let me. As to the Spinal Cannon, I have builds which both include it and replace it with another Console. Kinda gimmicky, it is. But if your ship handling abilities are up to the task, it can be a whole lot of fun.

fovrel

KDF already has different styled ships. I name the Gorn, Nausicaan and Orion vessels. I would love to see those designs, graphically upgraded, reintroduced as T6 ships. They should also add Ferasan and Caitian ships, even more Fed species ships, for those that don't want to fly the saucer/hull/nacelles ships all the time.

nikeix

flumf wrote: »

Have you seen what happens on the rare occasion when Cryptic actually tries to deviate from more traditional designs for Fed, KDF, and Rom ships? People go nuts, they act like Cryptic has committed some unholy sin upon the Star Trek universe.

I have... it gave us the Eclipse, my hands down favorite Federation ship while still having features that are obviously Fed-based. It's on par with the Vengeance in its visual poetry. It says exactly what it is without preamble or voice over. "Oh... that's what a Federation Stealth-ship looks like! Obviously"

The Star Trek universe grows all the time. Hurried screenwriters and mid-budget TV Fx crews don't have a singular lock on that as far as I'm concerned. Many, many talented people have contributed to the tapestry. And thankfully the most unimaginative and dogmatic of fans just don't get a say in that.

mkm1911

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davefenestrator wrote:

You can get some variety with the Temporal Cross-Faction pack once it hits X1, those are future KDF-Fed-Rom alliance ships.

You can also always get a lock box or lobi ship and pretend that it's Klingon
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I would defiantly get behind lobi ships more if I was account based. It takes A LOT of real money to buy keys and open a TON of lock boxes to get enough lobI crystals. When someone has paid upwards of $70-$90 in keys to open enough lock boxes, THE LEAST Cryptic/Arc could do it make it account based.

I can buy a c-store ship for $10-$30, but after spending $80 in keys to open lock boxes and collect lobi crystals, those ships "must be" character based?

Smh. Wtf?

vetteguy904

way back when on the launch of DR I bought it. IIRC my review of it was "It's a frigging CHAINSAW." I'm a big Cruiser guy and I really like her. she ait as pretty or versatile as the BatCruiser though

kodachikuno

mkm1911#2674 wrote: »

I've been having fun with the new MatHa raptor on x1. I didn't play my klingon characters too much because I never *really* liked any of the T6 ships.

Having said that, I'd like to see a klingon and romulan ship design break the "bird" mould the way the Definant broke the starfleet saucer, neck, body, 2 nacelle design.

Enough with the wings, neck, head thing. Try something different. These are human software designers, use your imagination.

back on topic.... I wouldnt mind seeing one or two vessels of non-standard design. That said the racial design theme is one of the few things unique we have left. Leave us that.

nikeix

FASA's Klingons tabletop game had some nice ships that felt like they were built by Klingons in both style and gameplay. L-9 Saber is still one of my all time favorite ship designs in any setting.

kodachikuno

many fasa designs for all factions rocked, lets face it... Occasionally we can see some strong inspiration at least in STO. Gorn ships, and the Dhelan

mkm1911

@azrael605

Only problem with that way is I'm on console, so we just got r&d. It'll be a while before I can make anything sellable.

I see things on this game for sale for like 3-8 million ec and maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I have no idea how anyone has that much ec.

The keys for sale is like 1 for a million ec. 1 key is pretty much useless. So to buy enough keys to make it worth a damn would take ridiculous amounts of ec that I have no idea how anyone would have that much.

mkm1911

You have my respect, sir. I have no idea how you generated 600m. I play approx 50 hrs a week over 8 characters and the most any one char has ever gotten was 4.3m. And that's the max reached with continuous play from Oct. Obviously I spent some which brings it down, but the most I've ever saved was 4.3m.

mkm1911

Again, you have my respect. I have no idea how you managed that. I can create a mk12 wide arc DHC, but that'll go for what, 500k?

The cost to make them ain't cheap either. The isolinar chips cost like 20k dilitium to make 5 isolinar circuitry and it takes 4 per cannon.

kodachikuno

mkm1911#2674 wrote: »

Again, you have my respect. I have no idea how you managed that. I can create a mk12 wide arc DHC, but that'll go for what, 500k?

The cost to make them ain't cheap either. The isolinar chips cost like 20k dilitium to make 5 isolinar circuitry and it takes 4 per cannon.

crafting MATS make money, not the items you make.