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Please explain the previous STO costumes.
trekbrony
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Such as Sierra, Antares, and Jupiter.
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It was before there was a uniform code with the appearance of the Odyssey uniform variants.
The game always has had customization as its main selling points so they kept them and the rest.
City of Heroes used to have this option. It even had a pack where you could choose which gender each costume was instead of being forced to a single gender like other MMOs. Made it easier to roleplay as Ranma, Mystique, or another shapechanger. Other MMOs would require purchasing a racial respec token to achieve this degree of freedom.
Examples -
Supermanx:
Liberty Belle:
Happifun Security System X-4:
And of course, the Duck Knight:
Which is true of modern militaries, but it wasn't that long ago that officers paid for their company's uniforms out of their own pocket and had tremendous power to customize the look of their command. Its far from without precedent. One sci-fi setting I work with regularly, the captains don't make those kinds of decisions, but the admirals do... so if you know your 'space heraldry' you can immediately identify which fleet someone on the monitor is part of by their livery. 'Hmm, short mantle and bracers over the end of the sleeves. Probably 11th fleet, Admiral Kirolan's people. Remember to say something nice about baseball...'
But to be fair, I had the exact same beef with the Green Lantern movie
You've practically made a career out of telling us how incredibly narrow your vision of Star Trek is, so nobody paying attention is surprised you might feel that way
Have to agree. For a more purist player they did a nice job, and the semi-official color guides floating around are really fun to look at if you want to cleave to 'STO canon'. Gives their setting some welcome depth.
Most of my Federation captains and their BOffs subscribe to a uniform dress code, it's just unique to my account. I still color code by department as it makes it easier for me to take in which BOff's gotten where during a fight. I just have some extra colors like purple for my Intel officers and green for the 'chronotactical warfare' branch.
Yes, it's called 'canon'
The Odyssey uniforms look like a plausible evolution from the First Contact uniforms. The original STO ones, frankly, don't, and look more like biker's leathers/Metal Gear Solid stealth-suits
It's a shame that the actual variants on the color guides aren't available (or are they Fleet unlocks?) such as the pocketed and clearly armored field uniforms, but switching the colors just on the basic components, I find is an acceptable compromise
I like the idea of the green, is that from the idea floating round the net of Starfleet Marines having a green uniform division, or the Peter David novel Imzadi, where the Starfleet of that future, wore green uniforms? My Intel-serving officers have the black/charcoal stripe, as worn by Cmdrs Burgess and Van Zyl, where the one who I just have as an engineering BOFF, is in operations gold
Wrath of Khan uniforms don't much resemble TOS, either. Nor do TNG resemble Wrath of Khan. There's plenty of precedent in canon for new uniforms--especially considering this is thirty-odd years after the last canon entry with the First Contact uniforms--bearing little resemblance to the old.
Customization is nice, but (to me at least) there comes a point where I find it immersion-breaking... (YMMV) For example, does someone want to play Star Trek, or City of Heroes, or HALO...
Personally I prefer Wrath of Khan; it's about the only Starfleet uniform that actually looks like something a rational, professional organization would actually wear. (Well, there's also the Enterprise-era jumpsuits, extrapolated from NASA outfits, but they're not my cup of tea.) The technicolor uniforms from TOS, the various TNG-onward jumpsuits... I just cannot imagine professionals--outside of the entertainment industry, obviously--actually wearing such things.
As for immersion, I've personally got a simple standard: immersion is all well and good, but what's fun is ultimately what's more important in a video game.
To me, I feel Starfleet is not the army, and even in the older time, like vietnam, some of the boys would alter their uniforms and gear. Hell, in "aliens" the marines did customizing. In Japan, the school kids, not thrilled of uniforms, would customize their own a bit, lil bits here and there in their own defiance.
anyhow, my own take of starfleet in my stories, is that being out in space, for months or years....the dress codes are pretty flexible and liberal (look at Troi, until that ole iron butt jalico showed up) and crewmen will customize their looks. Hell, one on ship, the cap I made authorized an optional casual wear option, since 30 years in space is a long time and some comforts are gonna be needed, plus sometimes crew might be called for help during off times, etc.
I was meaning, it breaks my immersion, to be in a social zone and see all sorts of outlandish costumes displayed... Like I said, it's a Star Trek game -- I expect the characters I see to look like Star Trek characters, not garish Space Barbies and HALO wannabes standing around... I just tell myself, like the crewman notes when an AoY character transitions from 23rd to 25th century, that they've come from the holodeck... And before someone pulls an IDIC Godwin, sure, people can dress their characters how they want, that's not what I'm saying... What I'm saying, is that it's a Star Trek Game, not Spaceships and Battles (or any other generic sci-fi theme) and I would have thought that people want to play a Star Trek game, due to wanting to partake in the Trek-verse, so I can't understand why they would want do so in such an out-of-verse context of huge armors and other non-verse costume... ([Edit] They're certainly free to do what they want, I'm just saying that I don't get it, and that I find it immersion-breaking to see...I'm not saying that they shouldn't be able to, just that I don't get it, and can't see the point why someone would want to play a Star Trek game without all that goes with Star Trek... YMMV) Yesterday, I saw a character on DS-9, who was clearly intended to represent the appearance of a US Marine in full dress uniform... It looked good, but I did think 'why?' (perhaps Daniels pulled them from the 21st Century rather than the 23rd
Do I have some characters not in Starfleet uniforms? Yes... three BOFFs who are civilians, rather than officers, but all the 40-something others, including my playables*, are in current game-canon uniforms...
Which is only your take on how you want to make the Verse fit your characters
As for 30 years in space, I don't know what crazy juice you've been drinking, but unless your characters are all Immortals (or maybe Vulcans
*Actually, it might be fun to roll a new toon and see how long it's possible to go without returning to ESD... While levelling up, it's essential every few missions just to get the new ship upon promotion, but after that, in theory, a character need only return to base to customize a new ship, use the exchange, or get new crew members, the missions themselves, can be hailed while in space... I actually try and avoid ESD as much as possible, as the lag I experience there can sometimes be crippling (rather than blaming Cryptic's servers, I'm going to say it could be the loan PC) and massively frustrating to deal with...
Gotta say, every time I look at you sig, I think "I'm the captain, that's why I get the special chair!"
They were the Starfleet uniform from 2386-2409. Then Odyssey arrived in 2410. Only discrepancy is that all NPCs in 2409 episodes/instances are wearing Odyssey too now, indicating a fracture in the space-time continuum.
Hee hee, T'Karra has said that before
If more ships had counsellors with empathic or even better telepathic abilities, then they would be sitting right by the Captain as well. The whole purpose of Troi on the bridge was to give valuable insight into Picard's opponent.
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Just my opinion, but the Antares would appear to be an evolution or variation on the TOS uniforms, Sierra on the TNG uniforms, and Jupiter on the TWOK uniforms.
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Maybe they were off duty. But it was rather jarring.
You mean those. Yeah the script actually specified they were off-duty.
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Perhaps it would be easier to just say that only Betazoids can be ships commanding officers, because then they are working on their own insights, rather than the delay created by having them verbally delivered by the counsellor...
The problem is that Deanna was serving dual role as not only the ship's senior psychologist (a role as vital to a closed community as any doctor) but also as an adviser to Picard (a position for which, he had Riker, and the rest of the senior staff... Every minute she spent on the bridge, was time she wasn't holding surgeries and dealing with the psychological well-being of the rest of the crew... The concept was a nonsense one, and examining it in depth, makes the flaws more obvious...
Equally, Ezri was a counsellor, and she was not telepathic, so that's hardly a valid job criteria
Also, there were civilian specialists onboard starships and starbases who Star Fleet had contracted/hired for certain missions who weren't required to have a specific dress code.