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I just bought the T5 Heavy Escort Carrier (FED) for one of my toons, plus the torpedo point defense console
for some other toons and then discovered that ROM-FED don't have access to FED T5/6 ships.
What is the reasoning behind this? My ROM-FED can access T1-T4 FED ships, so why not T5/6?
I'm in particular interested in the admiralty card (I'm a collector), so if you could just drop that in the mail
it be swell and we call it even ;)
Gets even a little more ridiculous than all that...as a KDF toon i could just acquire a console pack
to get my mittens on the torpedo defense system...but ROM-FED would get the second console in such
a pack wouldn't they?

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    seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    Because that was made a rule when romulans were introduced. No endgame fed/kdf ships for green, so no torp point defense for fed-roms.
    As for admiralty cards, they're character locked and can't be traded.
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    telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    The torpedo point defense couldn't be used on a Romulan ship anyways, the console is restricted to heavy escort variants
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    All Spaceknights of Solstar come equipped with a neutralizer and an analyzer standard.

    ;)
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    warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    I just bought the T5 Heavy Escort Carrier (FED) for one of my toons, plus the torpedo point defense console
    for some other toons and then discovered that ROM-FED don't have access to FED T5/6 ships.
    What is the reasoning behind this? My ROM-FED can access T1-T4 FED ships, so why not T5/6?

    Because restriction fanboys complained about Romulans having full access to allied materiel and Cryptic wussed out by restricting the top-end ships.
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    I just bought the T5 Heavy Escort Carrier (FED) for one of my toons, plus the torpedo point defense console
    for some other toons and then discovered that ROM-FED don't have access to FED T5/6 ships.
    What is the reasoning behind this? My ROM-FED can access T1-T4 FED ships, so why not T5/6?

    Because restriction fanboys complained about Romulans having full access to allied materiel and Cryptic wussed out by restricting the top-end ships.

    Did the right thing you mean?
    IMHO they should have restricted Romulans to warbirds exclusively and no allied ships.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    I just bought the T5 Heavy Escort Carrier (FED) for one of my toons, plus the torpedo point defense console
    for some other toons and then discovered that ROM-FED don't have access to FED T5/6 ships.
    What is the reasoning behind this? My ROM-FED can access T1-T4 FED ships, so why not T5/6?

    Because restriction fanboys complained about Romulans having full access to allied materiel and Cryptic wussed out by restricting the top-end ships.

    Did the right thing you mean?
    IMHO they should have restricted Romulans to warbirds exclusively and no allied ships.

    No, they should've given them all ships from BOTH allies. And both allies the Romulan ships.

    And removed the rest of the restrictions when the F-K war ended.
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    telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    No, just no. I never want to see feds flying warbirds or birds of prey. How could you even suggest something like that?
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    quantum42#9720 quantum42 Member Posts: 128 Arc User
    The torpedo point defense couldn't be used on a Romulan ship anyways, the console is restricted to heavy escort variants

    Not on a Romulan ship, but on a Romulan's ship, 2016 Summer ship is a Heavy Escort.
    Anyway correct me if I am wrong, but a ROM-KDF can get the torpedo point defense from a console pack,
    a ROM-FED can't get it from the ship and would get the other console from the pack.
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    kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    IMHO they should have restricted Romulans to warbirds exclusively and no allied ships.
    The "right thing" would've been to give the Roms their own GOOD ships.
    Smae for the Klinks, that hop far behind on the Feds.
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    kiksken wrote: »
    IMHO they should have restricted Romulans to warbirds exclusively and no allied ships.
    The "right thing" would've been to give the Roms their own GOOD ships.
    Smae for the Klinks, that hop far behind on the Feds.

    Mmm I guess I was mistaken that the Scimitar was for a while there the best DPS ship in the game.
    And I guess I was mistaken that Romulans had a higher DPS potential with entire crews of SRO's

    Oh well.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    warpangel wrote: »
    I just bought the T5 Heavy Escort Carrier (FED) for one of my toons, plus the torpedo point defense console
    for some other toons and then discovered that ROM-FED don't have access to FED T5/6 ships.
    What is the reasoning behind this? My ROM-FED can access T1-T4 FED ships, so why not T5/6?

    Because restriction fanboys complained about Romulans having full access to allied materiel and Cryptic wussed out by restricting the top-end ships.

    and then they started giving feds everything unique to the other two anyway...
    kiksken wrote: »
    IMHO they should have restricted Romulans to warbirds exclusively and no allied ships.
    The "right thing" would've been to give the Roms their own GOOD ships.
    Smae for the Klinks, that hop far behind on the Feds.

    Mmm I guess I was mistaken that the Scimitar was for a while there the best DPS ship in the game.
    And I guess I was mistaken that Romulans had a higher DPS potential with entire crews of SRO's

    Oh well.

    I'm pretty sure having one cash shop only vessel is not what he meant. So sure the Scimi is great for min/max junkies with wads of cash to throw away on it and upgrading everything to gold mkXIV and hunting out SRO.... not so much for everyone else. And our levelling options for ships are all over the place from 'eww' to 'great' with no consistency and limited as hell options. The one sci ship we get needs work and looks like exactly what it is.... half a ship model
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    dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    The torpedo point defense couldn't be used on a Romulan ship anyways, the console is restricted to heavy escort variants

    Not on a Romulan ship, but on a Romulan's ship, 2016 Summer ship is a Heavy Escort.
    Anyway correct me if I am wrong, but a ROM-KDF can get the torpedo point defense from a console pack,
    a ROM-FED can't get it from the ship and would get the other console from the pack.

    I'm afraid it doesn't work like that. The Torpedo Point Defense console (and the Destabilized Tachyon Burst, for that matter) are in fact restricted to the Federation Heavy Escort family, the Akira variants (and even there, the basic tier 3 Akira can't use it). Even if the ship is called a Vorgon Heavy Escort, it's not compatible with that wonderful torpedo spam. It's like how the Paladin Temporal Battlecruiser can't use a few items restricted to Battlecruisers. I think I saw a thread on that topic a little while back.

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    annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,605 Arc User
    [quote]
    No, just no. I never want to see feds flying warbirds or birds of prey. How could you even suggest something like that?[/quote]
    Assimilated warbirds? Beuller?
    We Want Vic Fontaine
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    kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I'm pretty sure having one cash shop only vessel is not what he meant. So sure the Scimi is great for min/max junkies with wads of cash to throw away on it and upgrading everything to gold mkXIV and hunting out SRO.... not so much for everyone else. And our levelling options for ships are all over the place from 'eww' to 'great' with no consistency and limited as hell options. The one sci ship we get needs work and looks like exactly what it is.... half a ship model
    Exactly.

    And AlexRaptorr, you throw in 1 Cash Shop ship vs like 50 free for the feds?
    Seriously????
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    Most of the Romulan Ships are extremely formidable, if you know what to do with them, and no, i don't own "any" of the Romulan Flagships.
    They do require an entirely different approach and mindset than Fed and KDF ships, but bad they are decidedly not.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    They do require an entirely different approach and mindset than Fed and KDF ships, but bad they are decidedly not.

    Having used pretty much all available t4 and t5 (not cash shop) romulan vessels in lv60 content I feel I can safely call BS on that.. Sure any of them can DO the content, but some of them still suck. My anniversary DSD is a better science ship than the Ha'nom for example.
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    kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    Having used pretty much all available t4 and t5 (not cash shop) romulan vessels in lv60 content I feel I can safely call BS on that.. Sure any of them can DO the content, but some of them still suck. My anniversary DSD is a better science ship than the Ha'nom for example.
    Actually, most suck compared to Fed ships.
    And hard too...
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    kiksken wrote: »
    Having used pretty much all available t4 and t5 (not cash shop) romulan vessels in lv60 content I feel I can safely call BS on that.. Sure any of them can DO the content, but some of them still suck. My anniversary DSD is a better science ship than the Ha'nom for example.
    Actually, most suck compared to Fed ships.
    And hard too...

    nah, you just need to learn to use sing powers and think a little differently. They're not clones of fed or klink ships and need to be used differently
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    They do require an entirely different approach and mindset than Fed and KDF ships, but bad they are decidedly not.

    Having used pretty much all available t4 and t5 (not cash shop) romulan vessels in lv60 content I feel I can safely call BS on that.. Sure any of them can DO the content, but some of them still suck. My anniversary DSD is a better science ship than the Ha'nom for example.

    Maybe because the Ha'nom isn't a purebred science ship? :P
    I honestly couldn't say, as I've never used T4 and T5 ships in level 60 content from any faction period, except for maybe the T5-U Fleet D'deridex, of which I've been quite satisfied with.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    ....so you're claiming they don't suck without doing the actual work to determine if they do or not... bravo
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    ....so you're claiming they don't suck without doing the actual work to determine if they do or not... bravo

    Or maybe I just play with appropriate ships for level 60 content instead of bothering with old relics.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    kapla5571kapla5571 Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    The torpedo point defense couldn't be used on a Romulan ship anyways, the console is restricted to heavy escort variants

    Not on a Romulan ship, but on a Romulan's ship, 2016 Summer ship is a Heavy Escort.
    Anyway correct me if I am wrong, but a ROM-KDF can get the torpedo point defense from a console pack,
    a ROM-FED can't get it from the ship and would get the other console from the pack.

    Nope you stand corrected :),
    ROM-KDF can obtain the "Point defense turret" in disruptor dmg from a console pack [original console comes with the T3 FED Heavy Escort refit], a ROM-FED can claim the T3 Heavy Escort Refit if you purchased it but the "Point Defense Turret" will be in Phaser dmg flavor.

    Also since it is a sub-T5 console you can equip it on your other ships, including event ships, and the dmg is buffed by phaser or disruptor consoles depending on which version it is.
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