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/C-STORE/ Let us further expand our EC cap!

I would be more than happy to pay 500z many more times to expand the ec cap of my main toon by more billions of ec.

I would also be thrilled to be able to expand the account bank's ec storeage from the 500m it is capped at.

STO is a mature game now, it has a mature economy. Like any healthy economy there is inflation.

It's high time that the bank caps were expanded, it's a quality of life issue.

I know many other people would jump at the chance to expand their bank caps.
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    I would be ok with having the account bank expanding by 500mil especially now that i got those lockbox ships two months ago and being rich now makes a difference.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Sure, if they also increase the Exchange Maximum Price to 2 Billion to get more stuff out of the Trading Channel.

    Personal Bank - 4 Billion
    Account Bank - 2 Billion
    Exchange - 2 Billion

    All with one Account Unlock in the C-Store for 750 Zen.
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  • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    jade1280 wrote: »
    I would be ok with having the account bank expanding by 500mil especially now that i got those lockbox ships two months ago and being rich now makes a difference.

    You suddenly have an opinion on the capital gains tax, don't you? ;)
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Sure, if they also increase the Exchange Maximum Price to 2 Billion to get more stuff out of the Trading Channel.

    Personal Bank - 4 Billion
    Account Bank - 2 Billion
    Exchange - 2 Billion

    All with one Account Unlock in the C-Store for 750 Zen.

    Why not 4b for all?
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    You want the Exchange to be less than the Personal Bank so you don't run into issues with sales right off the bat. I am assuming your question was serious.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    I don't think we need to make items more expensive, which is exactly what would happen.

    Unless trading items outside of the exchange was also removed to combat price gouging and items being sold on the black market..
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    You want the Exchange to be less than the Personal Bank so you don't run into issues with sales right off the bat. I am assuming your question was serious.
    Some people do, because they think it solves something. It doesn't.

    Some other people do, because they can get more profit selling the cap-exceeding items outside the exchange. We don't want to help them scam people. Well, I don't at least.

    If there was actually desire to fix the "issue" of stupid people selling items for more money than than they have room to hold, the game could simply block such sales, just as it blocks you from buying if you have no room to store the item.
  • grazyc2#7847 grazyc2 Member Posts: 1,988 Arc User
    If you have to much EC you can always give it away !!! LOLZZZ
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    you know what I say go ahead, just make the cost rise exponentially. if nothing else see just how much people are willing to pay in real money, to gouge people for fake money.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    But you know from past Cryptic performance that they will never make them the same. The last time they were going to raise the Exchange to the EC cap at 1 Billion, but changed their minds and instead made it 75% (750 Million), precisely to prevent the non-observant from losing EC on sales.
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  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    I've watched all the EC farming vids on youtube and read a lot of threads.

    I still don't get how people have the time to accrue hundreds of millions of EC, let alone billions to go over the cap. It would be like a full-time job to earn that much EC.

    Sure, you can sell stuff like ships to make a couple hundred million, but what is the point of EC if not to buy things like ships - seems somewhat self-defeating.

    Do people really just spend hours a day farming EC?
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I think we also need an EC tax on all EC purchases made via exchange or private trades. Say 2.5% is automatically sent to oblivion. The only way to avoid the EC tax would be to barter without EC. And since you can't mail EC, the only way around it would be banking fleets which is tedious to say the least.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    I've watched all the EC farming vids on youtube and read a lot of threads.

    I still don't get how people have the time to accrue hundreds of millions of EC, let alone billions to go over the cap. It would be like a full-time job to earn that much EC.

    Sure, you can sell stuff like ships to make a couple hundred million, but what is the point of EC if not to buy things like ships - seems somewhat self-defeating.

    Do people really just spend hours a day farming EC?

    yes


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  • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    It's their play style. Some want to have the highest DPS. Some want to have the highest heals per second. Some want to be the best tank ever. Others want to farm Dilithium. Others want to farm energy credits.

    Truth be told, each has their own version of "big numbers."

    Getting back to topic, though, it could make a "nuclear arms race" between raising the cap and those that wish to sell their stuff for the big bucks. I would fear that happening.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    But how to block as you can have multiple items, none of which by themselves may exceed the cap. The only way to sure fire prevent it is to have the sales proceeds attached to an email that you must physically take the money from. It wouldn't let you take it if taking it would exceed cap, just as you can't take goods returned if Inventory full. And the system already prevents you from deleting mail with an item attached.

    The problem with this approach, however, is that it relies on another game subsystem, which brings a potential source for scr*w-ups.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    But you know from past Cryptic performance that they will never make them the same. The last time they were going to raise the Exchange to the EC cap at 1 Billion, but changed their minds and instead made it 75% (750 Million), precisely to prevent the non-observant from losing EC on sales.
    To appease persistent whiners who falsely believe and/or pretend to believe it would prevent the non-observant from losing EC on sales.

    It doesn't really have any such effect, you still have to keep track of your sales prices and EC storage to stay within the cap. And anyone who actually trades in expensive items would know that.
  • misterferengi#8959 misterferengi Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    I wonder how it would affect things if Cryptic enforced this exclusivity thing they try to preach with event ships ect if they made lobi, lockbox and r&d ships bound to account or worse bound to character so no-one could profiteer off them in private trading channels ?.

    What a terrible thought, its every Ferengi's worst nightmare come true.



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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Are you trying to accuse me of whining or pretending to care about the non-observant because I couldn't care one whit about it? I was in favor of the move to 1 Billion and am simply stating what happened before and why and stating that Cryptic would keep with that moving forward.

    1 Billion would have taken more stuff out of the 'gray'-market, but alas it was not to be.
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    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • lighte007lighte007 Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    I haven't made enough EC to be Space Rich yet... but it would be nice if there was an increase in how much can be put in the Account Bank since I didn't know it was only 500 million EC.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    how about TRIBBLE no... and while we're at it how about not charging insane prices for frikkin pixels, and/or expecting everyone to compete with a few no lifers that have decided to max out their EC limit and rig the whole game for them and them alone?

    sure I know itll never happen but its just as absurd a request as driving prices up to beyond absurdity by increasing the EC cap.
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  • vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    The only thing that would be accomplished by raising EC caps would be sending inflation through the roof. This is a classic dog whistle thread. No one feels pity for those whose speculative fortunes were wiped out by the Infinity lockbox, investment is risk.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Fer me, or agin' me? ;)
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    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Are you trying to accuse me of whining or pretending to care about the non-observant because I couldn't care one whit about it? I was in favor of the move to 1 Billion and am simply stating what happened before and why and stating that Cryptic would keep with that moving forward.

    1 Billion would have taken more stuff out of the 'gray'-market, but alas it was not to be.

    I don't keep track of who said what when in these forums. Nonetheless, some people did whine and/or pretend to care when the change was upcoming and as result Cryptic wussed out and didn't set the ex cap to 1b because of it.

    It's mostly people who understand nothing of economics, with maybe a few scammers in the mix. The former because they mistakenly believe they benefit from a lower cap and the latter because they correctly know they benefit from it.
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