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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    captaind3 wrote: »
    tom61sto wrote: »
    My suggestion for the Lukari:
    Exploratory Science Dreadnought [T6]
    Secondary Deflector slot (Exploration!)
    Sensor Analysis (more exploration!)
    +10 Aux, +10 Weapon power (compromise!)
    5 Fore weapons, 2 aft (Even more compromise, the people that want 5 weapons get the front part, and the ones that want 2 get the rear part. Perfect!)
    Console layout:
    5 Science (You gotta have lots of those for 'exploration'!)
    4 Tactical (It's dangerous out there!)
    2 Engineering (Left overs.)
    What? I didn't say anything about suggesting this be the Winter Event ship or other giveaway...
    Bridge Officers:
    Commander Science (Exploration!), Lt. Comm Universal/Temporal (don't know what you're getting into, it might even be time travel!), Lt. Comm Tac (Go boldly, and carry a big stick!) , Lt. Comm Eng (need to keep the ship together and/or enhancing your weapon power)
    Shields: thick
    Hull: decent
    Turnrate: at least 8 (these three will be needed to be balanced somewhat, I don't feel like back-figuring from current T6s)

    Science ships have 3 aft.

    This is a Science Dreadnought, they can have other than 3 aft. Besides, where's the compromise with the people that wanted two weapons, then?

    ichaerus1 wrote: »
    tom61sto wrote: »
    My suggestion for the Lukari:
    Exploratory Science Dreadnought [T6]
    Secondary Deflector slot (Exploration!)
    Sensor Analysis (more exploration!)
    +10 Aux, +10 Weapon power (compromise!)
    5 Fore weapons, 2 aft (Even more compromise, the people that want 5 weapons get the front part, and the ones that want 2 get the rear part. Perfect!)
    Console layout:
    5 Science (You gotta have lots of those for 'exploration'!)
    4 Tactical (It's dangerous out there!)
    2 Engineering (Left overs.)
    What? I didn't say anything about suggesting this be the Winter Event ship or other giveaway...
    Bridge Officers:
    Commander Science (Exploration!), Lt. Comm Universal/Temporal (don't know what you're getting into, it might even be time travel!), Lt. Comm Tac (Go boldly, and carry a big stick!) , Lt. Comm Eng (need to keep the ship together and/or enhancing your weapon power)
    Shields: thick
    Hull: decent
    Turnrate: at least 8 (these three will be needed to be balanced somewhat, I don't feel like back-figuring from current T6s)

    Want to give them battle cloaking and cannon options while you're at it? Maybe a rewind mastery trait, that refreshes your cooldowns, gives you a hull and shield heal, and has a jump built in? Let's just mash too much good stuff into a ship for a race that's only just barely peeking out its own atmosphere. First step to Mary Sue status there....

    I didn't include Battle Cloak only because it's the Feds that are designing the ship, and they find cloaks icky. That Starship Trait sounds redundant with the Temporal Spec having that already. As for 'good stuff' this early on, I doubt the Federation would design something sub-par for them, knowing what dangers are out there.

    As for Mary Sue status, bah, you're a Fleet Admiral less than two years after your Academy graduation, and savior of the galaxy multiple times over*.

    *Barring the two universes you were involved in destroying with the Annorax
  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    hawku001x wrote: »
    tangolight wrote: »
    hawku001x wrote: »
    Nice read!

    I see a science ship that morphs shape (like Transformers) into a tactical ship.

    Wasn't that basically what the Dyson Science Destroyer did?​​

    Aw snap. I didn't even realize. I modify my suggestion to: a science ship that morphs into a large tactical mechanized humanoid body.
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    You get it. :p
  • horridpersonhorridperson Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    I liked it. A timely piece that echoes the history of Star Trek by way of the Lukari. This was a wonderful gift for the 50th. Thanks for sharing.
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  • tarran61tarran61 Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    I enjoyed the story very much, down the middle sounds good at this time. thank you.
    Positive thoughts.
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  • badgerpants999badgerpants999 Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    Nice to catch up with some old friends.
  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    Nice to that the Lukari are being revisited after First Contact...

    Could this be a hint that a Lukari vessel may be on the way? Perhaps as a First Contact Day prize?
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    My suggestion for the Lukari:
    Exploratory Science Dreadnought [T6]
    Secondary Deflector slot (Exploration!)
    Sensor Analysis (more exploration!)
    +10 Aux, +10 Weapon power (compromise!)
    5 Fore weapons, 2 aft (Even more compromise, the people that want 5 weapons get the front part, and the ones that want 2 get the rear part. Perfect!)
    Console layout:
    5 Science (You gotta have lots of those for 'exploration'!)
    4 Tactical (It's dangerous out there!)
    2 Engineering (Left overs.)
    What? I didn't say anything about suggesting this be the Winter Event ship or other giveaway...
    Bridge Officers:
    Commander Science (Exploration!), Lt. Comm Universal/Temporal (don't know what you're getting into, it might even be time travel!), Lt. Comm Tac (Go boldly, and carry a big stick!) , Lt. Comm Eng (need to keep the ship together and/or enhancing your weapon power)
    Shields: thick
    Hull: decent
    Turnrate: at least 8 (these three will be needed to be balanced somewhat, I don't feel like back-figuring from current T6s)

    ...May I direct you, more or less, to http://sto.gamepedia.com/Krenim_Annorax_Science_Dreadnought? :wink:

    all joking aside, that's pretty much what it reminded me of, down to the console layout
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    angrybobh wrote: »
    I enjoyed the story very much, kudos to the author. The Lukari are my favorite STO species.

    As for what ship they should build, they can have their cake and eat it too. All they need to do is make a regular sci ship with a secondary deflector. That can cause more than enough death and destruction to satisfy the war minded Lukari while supplying the best in exploration technology. Who needs warships when you have a good science ship.

    yes, for in-game practical purposes...but for the story purposes/feel, I got the sense of a battleship of some sort, with 'armed' being in the traditional/tac sense. That said, I do run a 100k+ sci vessel as a fed eng, so I know what they can do
  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    tangolight wrote: »
    hawku001x wrote: »
    Nice read!

    I see a science ship that morphs shape (like Transformers) into a tactical ship.

    Wasn't that basically what the Dyson Science Destroyer did?​​

    I'm hoping for something a sleek, with a nice neutral color. :D Like maybe something along the lines of the Hazari ship.

    Just my opinion.

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  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    If this were logical, the Lukari ship will end up being a Tier 1 Light Cruiser. Slightly less logical, Tier 2 or 3. Ludicrous would be Tier 5 or 6 for a species just emerging from their home planet, let alone their home system.
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I'd love for the Lukari ship to be a smallish ship, comparable to the NX-01 but with better technology so it can stand its ground in 2409. Something with characteristics of both a science vessel and an escort.

    I really like the Lukari; hope we see more of them outside the blogs.
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  • Loved this. :) Well written and nice to see Nog and Paris bromance. ;p Even finishing each other's sentences. Wish this was a scene in game.
  • keletteskelettes Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Reading something only remotely related to wars is a welcome change of pace for me. :smile: Good read.

    I'm curious what the Lukari will come up with in the end. This will be their first big ship with any significant warp capability. In terms of size, maybe something like the Nandi, maybe smaller? Looking forward to seeing it. Plus now, I too, have an idea what the winter ship might be. :smiley:
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  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,533 Arc User
    Excellent read! Very fun!

    CM
    "Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
  • aleaicaleaic Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    -Had a warm fuzzy trekkie feeling, reading this piece, not befitting a Vulcan.-
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    kelettes wrote: »
    Reading something only remotely related to wars is a welcome change of pace for me. :smile: Good read.

    I'm curious what the Lukari will come up with in the end. This will be their first big ship with any significant warp capability. In terms of size, maybe something like the Nandi, maybe smaller? Looking forward to seeing it. Plus now, I too, have an idea what the winter ship might be. :smiley:

    Wonder if it will be clunky and gnarly in its appearance. :o
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    kelettes wrote: »
    Reading something only remotely related to wars is a welcome change of pace for me. :smile: Good read.

    I'm curious what the Lukari will come up with in the end. This will be their first big ship with any significant warp capability. In terms of size, maybe something like the Nandi, maybe smaller? Looking forward to seeing it. Plus now, I too, have an idea what the winter ship might be. :smiley:

    Wonder if it will be clunky and gnarly in its appearance. :o

    Nah, its not the KDF who are designing it, the feds would make sure its all flowing lines and an unimposing as possible so it would suit the 'peaceful exploration' ethos

    Of course, who is to say that other parts of the Lukari government are not shipbuilding with the KDF and Roms... it could be an intresting multifaction pack - 3 Lukari ships, each with a design borne of each factions style (and making for some epic kitbashes as you could mix fed-esque parts with kdf and rom)​​
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,408 Arc User
    I see some calling out the Winter Ship already, but this sounds more like it could be February's Anniversary Ship.
    Then again, it didn't take long to bring out the Jupiter after the various voting options ended so we could be looking at a bonus freebie akin to the Obelisk when Season 8 arrived. I mean, it's alomst time that Season 12 arrived, I think...
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    kelettes wrote: »
    Reading something only remotely related to wars is a welcome change of pace for me. :smile: Good read.

    I'm curious what the Lukari will come up with in the end. This will be their first big ship with any significant warp capability. In terms of size, maybe something like the Nandi, maybe smaller? Looking forward to seeing it. Plus now, I too, have an idea what the winter ship might be. :smiley:
    perhaps an unholy abomination that mixes a 4/4 layout with a science commander? :p
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    kelettes wrote: »
    Reading something only remotely related to wars is a welcome change of pace for me. :smile: Good read.

    I'm curious what the Lukari will come up with in the end. This will be their first big ship with any significant warp capability. In terms of size, maybe something like the Nandi, maybe smaller? Looking forward to seeing it. Plus now, I too, have an idea what the winter ship might be. :smiley:
    perhaps an unholy abomination that mixes a 4/4 layout with a science commander? :p
    or perhaps something with a 5/3 layout, with a Universal Commander seat...

  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    hawku001x wrote: »
    tangolight wrote: »
    hawku001x wrote: »
    Nice read!

    I see a science ship that morphs shape (like Transformers) into a tactical ship.

    Wasn't that basically what the Dyson Science Destroyer did?​​

    Aw snap. I didn't even realize. I modify my suggestion to: a science ship that morphs into a large tactical mechanized humanoid body.

    https://youtu.be/EWQAvMUUJr4

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  • falconnightperufalconnightperu Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    And the SOVEREING T6?
    Oh c´mon STO... It's time to check this iconic ship!
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  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    And the SOVEREING T6?
    Oh c´mon STO... It's time to check this iconic ship!
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    This was nice to read. I agree for a T6 Sovereign Class but that image you posted is the ST: First Contact/Insurrection Sovereign Class not the Nemesis/Post nemesis Sovereign class, which is the latest design of that class. I hope they will use that design and not the First Contact/Insurrection Sovereign Class design.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    hawku001x wrote: »
    tangolight wrote: »
    hawku001x wrote: »
    Nice read!

    I see a science ship that morphs shape (like Transformers) into a tactical ship.

    Wasn't that basically what the Dyson Science Destroyer did?​​

    Aw snap. I didn't even realize. I modify my suggestion to: a science ship that morphs into a large tactical mechanized humanoid body.

    https://youtu.be/EWQAvMUUJr4

    B)
    I was just about to post this. :smiley:

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  • captkelly31#5645 captkelly31 Member Posts: 392 Arc User
    How many Players want to see a Lukari ship with angles, and how many would prefer a ship with curves?

    Im in the angled ship camp, BTW.
  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    I've realized that Nog and Tom Paris have a bit in common. They both started out as criminals in the pilot episodes of DS9 and Voyager, used against their family/old comrades by Sisko and Janeway, then evolved over the course of their respective series into Starfleet officers, then became captains by the 25th Century.
  • thelunarboythelunarboy Member Posts: 412 Arc User
    reafis wrote: »
    Incoming lukari ship (Xmas maybe) but an excellent story. We need a final closing off of this time travel **** though

    A green triangular ridge shaped vessel with a star shaped deflector at the front?

    Or perhaps a red carrier with nacelles at the bottom and 9 brown escort fighters that normally formation fly in front of it (8 fighters are tactical, the lead one is a sensory projection ship with a red deflector.

    ;)
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    Kuumaarke bid them farewell as they got back to work. She had some letters to write.
    Letters?
    Write?
    ;)
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    Sig? What sig? I don't see any sig.
  • highlord83highlord83 Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Yeah. Go the "middle route" like the Federation did with Starfleet. Then you too can have a bunch of gun-shy college interns pretending to be officers in ships that look pretty and take neat pictures, but can barely fight worth a damn while the crew dreams utopian dreams of high ideals as worlds burn and the people they're supposedly protecting die by the millions.

    I've said it once, I'll say it again. I'd love to finally see a crisis where the Feddie-bears deus-ex machina shields don't kick in.
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  • odoetalodoetal Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    actually it is VERY possible the devs will release a t6 sci ship we have seen for the lukari... bear in mind kal dano was part lukari and his ship did decide to *spacejump* to time's unknown we may be getting the t6 space tampon sci ship with the star killing tox uthat spinal lance.....
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