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benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
I know it has past the 8th but Cryptic you could have given that T6 TOS connie as a C-Store Ship but no, you gave us a POS C-store pack that has been around a long time and the items in that pack came out with the agents of yesterday and not to mention how you shoved the one ship everyone has been after into a god damned R&D box that all of us have a 1/10 chance of getting it.... that means out of 200 R&D packs we might get it, we might not. all I have to say at this point is I bet CBS is pissed off at you all right now and WAY TO DROP THE BALL CRYPTIC!!!!
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  • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    The sooner you understand how everything in an MMO is a Skinner Box, the better.

    aka, the reason why ships are tied to lockboxes and R&D promos.
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  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    They did not give the 23rd century pack to AoY characters.

    they did if you bought the 135 pack...
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    um - right.

    This is thread 875439thousand of this same thing... maybe mention something else?
    How about that you could buy the ship off the exchange and not worry about the rest of it...
    They offered the ship. They didn't have to.
    Won't be long before it becomes collectible due to being discontinued.
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    fluffymoof wrote: »
    The sooner you understand how everything in an MMO is a Skinner Box, the better.

    aka, the reason why ships are tied to lockboxes and R&D promos.

    NO, That is Extortion of the players and their money...
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    um - right.

    This is thread 875439thousand of this same thing... maybe mention something else?
    How about that you could buy the ship off the exchange and not worry about the rest of it...
    They offered the ship. They didn't have to.
    Won't be long before it becomes collectible due to being discontinued.

    Why should I? this is just another blunder by a game company that loves to TRIBBLE off it's player fan base.
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    fluffymoof wrote: »
    The sooner you understand how everything in an MMO is a Skinner Box, the better.

    aka, the reason why ships are tied to lockboxes and R&D promos.

    NO, That is Extortion of the players and their money...

    nope. Extortion would be making a player's account inaccessible unless you paid $1k each time you logged in. That would be extortion. Anything else is just Cryptic offering costume items/ships or VERY basic, limited-time services...just like every online game out there. It generates an interest by players to buy something and support the game if it is a 'collectible' item.

    you don't have to do it. That's you're choice. Not theirs.

    -.-
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    Can I haz ur stuffs?

    I see two "blunders" in the first post, since this is a nice pack if you enjoy costume unlocks or want the TOS ship interior, and it is NOT a free unlock for TOS captains.
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    Why should I? this is just another blunder by a game company that loves to **** off it's player fan base.

    Cryptic can only do so much. They don't have a huge number of developers working on the game. They can't afford it. Many are volunteering their time from other projects to work on STO. They've done a great job with what they have done in keeping things changing.

    They'd need a much larger (75% larger) subscribing player base to do a major overhall of the game. They've moved away fromt this due to the fact that STO IS an old game and the competition for players is fierce.

    Personnally, I play STO simply because it IS STO. But that's just me.

    As a game developer, myself, I'm well aware of the issues with a game as old as this one, and I'm familiar with the business models they're using. Still, no need to gripe about a little thing as a single ship skin, that I may or may not even use very long in-game.
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    fluffymoof wrote: »
    The sooner you understand how everything in an MMO is a Skinner Box, the better.

    aka, the reason why ships are tied to lockboxes and R&D promos.

    NO, That is Extortion of the players and their money...

    nope. Extortion would be making a player's account inaccessible unless you paid $1k each time you logged in. That would be extortion. Anything else is just Cryptic offering costume items/ships or VERY basic, limited-time services...just like every online game out there. It generates an interest by players to buy something and support the game if it is a 'collectible' item.

    you don't have to do it. That's you're choice. Not theirs.

    -.-

    lol true, but what I am getting at is the fact that they offered it in the most F'ed up way possible and not to mention they could have done it in many different ways. "You could buy the ship off the exchange and not worry about the rest of it..." yeah GL on that one pal... I have been waiting for that but the people that do have copies of it want an outrageous price... NO, this is Cryptic's blunder and shows yet again how they love to TRIBBLE people off.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    The Constitution is the perfect candidate for a promotion or lockbox.

    1) A lot of people desire it, because it has a special meaning for them.
    2) It would seem inappropriate if a lot of people would actually fly it and it was an extremely common sight.

    Putting it in a promotion like they did means:
    - It is possible to get this highly desired ship.
    - Only very few people will actually get it.
    - It will overall lead to a lot of spending by players.

    The few whose desire to have this ship is matched by their luck and/or their ability to spend money on the game will help pay the servers and continued development of this game for all that don't. Every time you see a Connie in the game now you know that it might have given STO and your ability to play a few extra hours or days. And if you don't have one yourself, you know someone else did this for you (even if he might not even care about you.)


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  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Can I haz ur stuffs?

    I see two "blunders" in the first post, since this is a nice pack if you enjoy costume unlocks or want the TOS ship interior, and it is NOT a free unlock for TOS captains.

    you missed the comment "If you bought the $135 pack it came with it..."
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    The Constitution is the perfect candidate for a promotion or lockbox.

    1) A lot of people desire it, because it has a special meaning for them.
    2) It would seem inappropriate if a lot of people would actually fly it and it was an extremely common sight.

    Putting it in a promotion like they did means:
    - It is possible to get this highly desired ship.
    - Only very few people will actually get it.
    - It will overall lead to a lot of spending by players.

    The few whose desire to have this ship is matched by their luck and/or their ability to spend money on the game will help pay the servers and continued development of this game for all that don't. Every time you see a Connie in the game now you know that it might have given STO and your ability to play a few extra hours or days. And if you don't have one yourself, you know someone else did this for you (even if he might not even care about you.)


    that's f'ing laughable dude I could care less they would make more if they put it in the the C-store or Lobi store
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  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Maybe it's time for walkerben or whatever to join evilestkhan in his "WAR ON CRYPTIC"... will anything survive? Dark days are coming, storm clouds on the horizon, someone call CNN! They need to cover this immediately, with big title graphics and ominous music and stuff. It'll be epic!

    ...what? Gotta fill the 24 hour news cycle somehow, and war equals ratings.​​

    lol I love this, however sarcasm aside I am pissed at Cryptic in many ways but this was the topper.
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    New headlines, in huge 3D letters, "PRELUDE TO WAR: THE BALL HAS DROPPED!", cue music, closeup on blonde airhead behind desk, story on 3...​​

    and the sarcasm continues....
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,281 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    I know it has past the 8th but Cryptic you could have given that T6 TOS connie as a C-Store Ship but no, you gave us a POS C-store pack that has been around a long time that was given to us with the agents of yesterday and not to mention how you shoved the one ship everyone has been after into a god damned R&D box that all of us have a 1/10 chance of getting it.... that means out of 200 R&D packs we might get it, we might not. all I have to say at this point is I bet CBS is pissed off at you all right now and WAY TO DROP THE BALL CRYPTIC!!!!

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  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    storules wrote: »
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    I know it has past the 8th but Cryptic you could have given that T6 TOS connie as a C-Store Ship but no, you gave us a POS C-store pack that has been around a long time that was given to us with the agents of yesterday and not to mention how you shoved the one ship everyone has been after into a god damned R&D box that all of us have a 1/10 chance of getting it.... that means out of 200 R&D packs we might get it, we might not. all I have to say at this point is I bet CBS is pissed off at you all right now and WAY TO DROP THE BALL CRYPTIC!!!!

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    I don't see what your getting at with the pic but whatever.
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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,281 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    storules wrote: »
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    I know it has past the 8th but Cryptic you could have given that T6 TOS connie as a C-Store Ship but no, you gave us a POS C-store pack that has been around a long time that was given to us with the agents of yesterday and not to mention how you shoved the one ship everyone has been after into a god damned R&D box that all of us have a 1/10 chance of getting it.... that means out of 200 R&D packs we might get it, we might not. all I have to say at this point is I bet CBS is pissed off at you all right now and WAY TO DROP THE BALL CRYPTIC!!!!

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    I don't see what your getting at with the pic but whatever.
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  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    azrael605 wrote: »
    The AoY packs do not include the TOS bridge/interior nor do they include the medical uniform or dress uniform.

    what... I meant was that every thing that the TOS pack offers like the uniforms and such.came out when AoY launched.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    The AoY packs do not include the TOS bridge/interior nor do they include the medical uniform or dress uniform.

    what... I meant was that every thing that the TOS pack offers like the uniforms and such.came out when AoY launched.
    that was given to us with the agents of yesterday

    Nope. that be not words mean what. Keep digging....

  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    @OP

    You may not care if they make more money with this way of releasing the T6 connie but I guarantee CBS does.

    that's what I am saying CBS is not going to be happy if they don't make more money they can make more if the offered the Connie in the C-store or even in the lobi store
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    storules wrote: »
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    storules wrote: »
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    I know it has past the 8th but Cryptic you could have given that T6 TOS connie as a C-Store Ship but no, you gave us a POS C-store pack that has been around a long time that was given to us with the agents of yesterday and not to mention how you shoved the one ship everyone has been after into a god damned R&D box that all of us have a 1/10 chance of getting it.... that means out of 200 R&D packs we might get it, we might not. all I have to say at this point is I bet CBS is pissed off at you all right now and WAY TO DROP THE BALL CRYPTIC!!!!

    a960a0ac740d9b1e1a6250ec130b3ea4a7c0f2a79de6a058feb55eeaded97408.jpg

    I don't see what your getting at with the pic but whatever.
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    this is a serious post pal and the sarcasm is not needed!!!
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    The AoY packs do not include the TOS bridge/interior nor do they include the medical uniform or dress uniform.

    what... I meant was that every thing that the TOS pack offers like the uniforms and such.came out when AoY launched.

    Actually, all this stuff has been available for years, possibly since year one (can't remember for sure, it's been a long road getting from there to here).
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  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    The AoY packs do not include the TOS bridge/interior nor do they include the medical uniform or dress uniform.

    what... I meant was that every thing that the TOS pack offers like the uniforms and such.came out when AoY launched.
    that was given to us with the agents of yesterday

    Nope. that be not words mean what. Keep digging....

    lol, god I love this I hate eating my own words XD
  • benwalker2benwalker2 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    benwalker2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    The AoY packs do not include the TOS bridge/interior nor do they include the medical uniform or dress uniform.

    what... I meant was that every thing that the TOS pack offers like the uniforms and such.came out when AoY launched.

    Actually, all this stuff has been available for years, possibly since year one (can't remember for sure, it's been a long road getting from there to here).

    true, but they had to give the crappiest pack they could...come on Cryptic
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