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umformtechnik
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someonbody posted this in the chat in game but i wanted to share it with the forums for anybody:
just wanted to share this with the forums for anybody wanting to buy the ship without risking the gamble!
You don't have to gamble to get the ship. You can buy and sell R&D packs until you have enough EC to buy it.
Right now the ship is going for 900mil EC in trade chat.
Right now the R&D packs are selliing for 14mil+.
900 / 14 = 64(the number of individual R&D packs you would need to buy and sell).
Right now you can get a bundle of 4 R&D packs for 800 zen($8 value)
64 / 4 = 16(the number of R&D 4 pack bundles you would need to buy)
16 x $8 = $128
If the ship eventually makes it to the exchange and is capped at 750mil, that would equal $107 using the same equation above.
just wanted to share this with the forums for anybody wanting to buy the ship without risking the gamble!
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Well, but that would be true for anything you buy. It will, assuming the prices stay constant, cost this much, It may be that you already have saved something and don't have to hand out the cash all at once, but the "something saved" will be gone after that. The price stays the same. Or would you call a 3000 Zen ship free because you already had saved up 3000 zen?
Yep, k = kilo = thousand not hundred. But the $128 / 12,800 zen total is correct.
I was speaking towards that the concept that basically, many people have tons of, especially, EC sitting around if they have been playing long or often enough.
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Is it actually a trade?
How do you get on the Trade Channel?
Thank You I mailed the top 2.
I got back on kind of late though.
scam, n.:
1) A fraudulent deal
2) I didn't get what I want although I could have known in advance but I thought maybe I could and you are all so mean and hate me
This is very important information you've shared umformtechnik thank you. I I'm going to try this strategy when I get the chance if and when my funds permit it. Trek on.
That's certainly one very common way of looking at it.
But there are other perspectives. 100 bucks for entertainment. That provides you x-amount of entertainment in terms of time. So you're paying 100 bucks for x minutes/hours/whatever of entertainment from that purchase.
Is the T6 Connie worth, say, 5 trips to the movie theater?
One trip to an NFL game?
Two or three concerts?
I don't know. For some it might be. If that's the case, it's not a waste of money because you weren't paying for ownership of that item, just the experience.
I think the movies are a great comparison because you can skip seeing a film in the theater. And own a copy of it yourself. But, look at your DVD collection and consider how often you repeatedly use those DVDs? And consider how many digital versions of films have you purchases in the past couple of years? And then how many of those digital films have you watched repeatedly?
Yeah, you can definitely look at it as you're paying for pixels that have no value because you can't touch it, feel it, put it on a shelf and walk away from it and then come back and have it there on the shelf.
But there are other ways of considering how you spend your money. And entertainment is an experience that doesn't need to be a solid construct that you pay money to own.
It's not so much as the price itself on it's own. Obviously everyone does what they want with their money. But it's a major difference between those ships and the ones you buy for zen.
People are putting them up on the public/open "club noob" channel usually for $950 Million EC a pop.
me I lucked out in that I was selling packs on the Exchange the first night (and waiting intently because occasionally someone would but up a pack for a slightly lesser price so I'd have to decide if I thought it was worth undercutting.) In two hors I had amassed 630 million EC (started with about 10 million EC on the character) for a total of 640 million EC and in general got that selling each Pack for around $14 million - (It was going between 14.2 million down to 13.9 million that night, and I was putting 1 to 4 up at a time depending on what I was on checking the market.)
I had also tried my hand at opening a few Packs myself to see if I got lucky - but went the 'sell on the Exchange for EC' route after doing 30 with no joy.
I found mine/got lucky when someone on Doff Jobs was claiming they got a T6 Connie ship pack but weren't sure that they really wanted it. The discussion continued in other topics (I had a total of $640 million EC at that time) - and I put out there in Doff Jobs (half jokingly because who knew if this guy really had it or was just talking) "So, how much do you want for the T6 Connie?
So I jumped into a private /tell covo saying:
"Yes, but right now I have $600 million EX on me - would that be enough or can we work out a combo of EX and Packs or Keys?" (Withn what I knew the Connies were usually going for, I knew if he was watching the market or was one of those into selling Lockbox type ships, I'd NEVER get it for just $600 million; but I did ant to leave some wiggle room for me if he still wanted more EC in addition to Master Keys or Packs and in the end, we made a deal and I got my T6 Temporal Light Cruiser for 600 million EC and 53 Master Keys (Had to buy 6 Master Key 10 Packs at 1250 Zen a pop once I saw he had the ship in the Trade window - but I did and got my T6 Connie - and thanked him for making the deal.
All in all (and taking into account the fluctuation on Master Keys and Resource Packs at the time I struck the deal) - I paid between 880 million to 888 million (rounded off) for my T6 TOS Connie; and given what I see them still being offered for on 'Club Noob' and in General chat; I'm happy with the deal I managed - and do want to repeat my thanks to the person who sold me his T6 Connie box.
In terms of how much I actually spent in Zen/Real World cask. I picked up $200 worth of Zen saying to myself that WOULD be my limit for this (but I have wanted a T6 Connie for so long, I said to myself if I didn't get it within this cash amount - I'd really need to think about how willing I'd be to spend more) - and I already had $50 worth of Zen from my LTS stipend - and buying $200 at once from the store gave me 23,000 so I had a pot of 28,000 going in.
After my deal I had (with the remaining promotion Pack I had still sitting on the Exchange after the all having sold for 14 million EC a pop:
108 million EC
4 Resource Packs in Inventory
7 Master Keys in Inventory
6050 Zen
So, if you remove the Zen 'Bonus' for buying $200 Zen at once and 5000 I had from my LTS stipend (over the months) that I used to gamble on Resource Packs - to get the remaining resources AND my T6 Connie I spent $169.50 in real cash to have all the above plus a new T6 TOS Constitution Class ship.
And just last month I spent about $150 (in total 'real cash') to get both the T6 JJ-Prise (Constitution Class); and the T6 JJ-Trek Vengeance; via selling Keys and other items.
Don't know if this makes me a 'STO Whale' or not, but I can live with what I spent for the pleasure it's returning to me in game atm.
I will say that after getting the above ships (and being a fan and watching Star Trek first run since the third season in 1969 at age 6) - There's NOT another ship or item Cryptic could put in the game that would get me to through real cash at STO again (and from a business standpoint I understand why they put the most iconic ship in a resource promo pack but think the true limited time/possibly never again will be offered aspect REALLY SUCKS and really penalizes TOS fans without the resources to get the actual ship they love and have wanted from the DAY STO launched while ALL the other iconic 'Hero Ships' (except the JJ-Prise, although that ship will be in the Infinity Lockbox eventually) are available to their series fans via the CStore.
But yeah, they finally did get me to drop more 'real cash' after purchasing my LTS just before the game publically first launched in 2010.
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True, though you should be comparing similar entertainment experiences. I tend to ask myself things like:
- Is having my own T6 TOS Connie/D7/T'Liss worth giving up account unlocks for a T6 3-Pack + one T4 ship + one T3 ship + one T2 ship + one T1 ship (maybe the original TOS Connie, as a consolation prize) + some snacks to munch on while using these things?
- Would I spend more time on one character in command of a T6 TOS Connie/D7/T'Liss than I would playing 1-2 full console games, or several PC games?
- Even if the answer to both is "no", would I take enough joy in flying a TOS Connie in endgame content to override this?
As you can tell by my @handle, I am a fan of TOS. I really enjoyed AoY's dip into the era, despite it being limited to the Fed faction and tutorial levels, and the attention paid to the little things really helped improve the experience. The revamped Connie skin is really nice, I'd love to have a D7 for my KDF characters, and the T'Liss pairs an Enhanced Battle Cloak with full Temporal Ship status. So, I do want these ships.In the end, though, I decided that they're too expensive for single character unlocks compared to what else I'd do with the money/resources. I did buy a few Packs (off the Exchange) to gamble on for the hell of it, helping someone else get their Connie without gambling, but no luck. That is unsurprising given the odds, so I'm back to blowing stuff up in my other ships instead.
If you spend $150 going to a concert or amusement park or other event, was it a waste of money? If you spend $150 on a good bottle of Scotch, was it a waste of money? If you spend $150 going out on the town to with some friends, was it a waste of money?
All leisure activity is technically a waste of money, it's up to everyone to decide for themselves what they want to waste it on at a given time, and believe it or not some people will spend that money differently than you will. Shocking huh?
Its not spending $150 bucks on something and getting it, its spending $150 bucks on the chance to get something and being lucky it only cost $150 bucks, which most people usually see as a sign of gambling addiction and suggest the person doing it get help.
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yes this was mistake and i correct now
Only if you're paying no attention to the threads you reply to. You posted this in a thread that explains how to get the ship with 100% certainty. No gambling.
Perhaps you meant to post in the "I like to open boxes and packs and more boxes and packs 'cuz I'm a gambling fool" thread?
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I'd say that was debatable...
They fly differently, by all means... but not necessarily better.
The Temporal Connie is one zippy little ship. It feels like it fits very nicely between a full cruiser and an escort.
There is no gambling involved when you buys keys with real money, sell keys for game credits, then buy the ship off the exchange. You know, the whole point of this thread. I'm guessing you're no Rhodes Scholar.