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2255 here we come! Finally we know when Discovery is set.

ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
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http://www.thewrap.com/star-trek-discovery-everything-we-learned-from-bryan-fullers-tca-panel/

So it's ten years before Kirk, the lead character is a woman and not the commanding officer, there's a TRIBBLE character and Fuller loves Spock's mother? Okay...
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    Sounds interesting, and like they're actually trying a few different things B)
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    Damn.

    I like TOS era, and I'm interested in where they're going with this... but, shave off another 20 years, and you could've had a show that services both the Prime and Kelvin Timelines.

    Oh, well, onward. I wonder how they'll handle the aesthetics of the show, and how they'll lead into the 60s cheese...
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,750 Community Moderator
    Meh... can't watch it because its only on All Access and NOT TV here in the states. :(
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Interesting...

    What events do we actually know about from this particular time period?
    Things that have been mentioned, but not actually shown in any of the series...
    I think it's time to brush-up on my Google-fu.
    And whip out the Trek Chronology Book.
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  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    Interesting...

    What events do we actually know about from this particular time period?
    Things that have been mentioned, but not actually shown in any of the series...
    I think it's time to brush-up on my Google-fu.
    And whip out the Trek Chronology Book.
    B)

    The Sheliak negotiations happened in 2255. That's about it. Everything else around that point directly involved the TOS crew.
    mhall85 wrote: »
    Damn.

    I like TOS era, and I'm interested in where they're going with this... but, shave off another 20 years, and you could've had a show that services both the Prime and Kelvin Timelines.

    Oh, well, onward. I wonder how they'll handle the aesthetics of the show, and how they'll lead into the 60s cheese...

    It may in a slightly different way. Fuller has suggested he may bring in Kelvin Timeline actors to playing their character's Prime Timeline counterparts. It's not quite the same, but does give them a way to take advantage of it without actually touching the movie stuff.

    Will be interesting to see the aesthetics though, especially any Klingons.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    I added this to the previous on-going thread.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    "Star Trek started with a wonderful expression of diversity in its cast ... our lead of the show is going to be subject of that same level, of who's the best actor and also what can we say about diversity on the show. We haven't cast her yet, so we don't know what level of diversity she will be, but that's forefront in our minds."

    So, they haven't cast her. But she's going to be diverse. Hard-hitting stuff.​​
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  • captainchaos66captainchaos66 Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    One thing I found intriguing was the " show will be centered around an event only referenced in The Original series". So something that was talked about in the original series is what the show is going to be based around? It has to be something pretty big.. but its not the Romulan war? Any ideas on what said event could be?
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  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    captainchaos66 wrote: »
    One thing I found intriguing was the " show will be centered around an event only referenced in The Original series". So something that was talked about in the original series is what the show is going to be based around? It has to be something pretty big.. but its not the Romulan war? Any ideas on what said event could be?

    There's nothing obviously there.

    Noting that Kirk would be at the Academy at this time, it could possibly be the legendary Battle of Axanar, a victory that apparently kept the Federation from falling apart. Would certainly seem a plausible option.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,750 Community Moderator
    It wouldn't be the Romulan War anyways because that was in the 22nd Century, right after Enterprise was canceled.
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  • unclegoldieunclegoldie Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    If I remember correctly, this would have been around the same time Captain Pike visited Talos-IV in "The Cage." Also, I believe it was stated in "The Menagerie" that Spock had served under Pike for about 10 years before Kirk took command of the Enterprise.
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  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    unclegoldie wrote: »
    If I remember correctly, this would have been around the same time Captain Pike visited Talos-IV in "The Cage." Also, I believe it was stated in "The Menagerie" that Spock had served under Pike for about 10 years before Kirk took command of the Enterprise.

    The Cage is 2254, so this is one year after.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Meh... can't watch it because its only on All Access and NOT TV here in the states. :(

    Same here, its PPV. So no watching it.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Hmmm, it could related to the Cage somehow.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Hmmm, it could related to the Cage somehow.

    It should be. So if we to see any Connies, it should look like the one from the Cage.

    It would be good to see more stuff from the Cage time period.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Yeah, I really can't think of anything else from TOS that would refer to that time period, but I'm not sure how they would make series out of it.
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  • lordrezeonlordrezeon Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    *looks up events from that time period*

    Hm... There are several minor things involving the TOS crew such as Kirk graduating from the academy and making a lady friend on a primitive world on an early away mission, McCoy making some medical procedure, and the events of "The Cage" pilot episode.

    Outside of the TOS crew there are only a few things that got mentioned around that time period, such as the Sheliak treaty and a DS9 episode that referenced an entire star system being destroyed in a disaster... but those were TNG and DS9 references.

    Hard to think what referenced event they would be going with... unless it is something weird like focusing on a minor side character like Carol Marcus or something.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    It's part of the time period during the Federation/Klingon Cold war, which climaxed in the TOS episode "Errand of Mercy" when the Organians put the kibosh on either side fighting.
    (a very big event for both sides)

    So the style of the ship and the music from the last teaser, could possibly indicate that this particular show is going to focus on that part of the Fed/Klink historical relations.

    There's a ton of possibilities that they could go with if that is indeed the major driving force of the series.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    I want to see TOS style ships, laser cannons and cage uniforms and away team gear. If they botch that up I'm grumpy pig-3.gif

    It's possible to modernize the TOS aesthetics with holographic displays and such without having to completely change the artstyle. If they could understand that I'd be a happy Targ. If they feel the need to retcon the TRIBBLE out of everything to somehow fit what they want to tell they shouldn't have decided on making another prequel. Aside from ENT playing in a post-FC influenced reality they could somehow get away with radically changed visuals by placing it a century before TOS. Now it's ten years - I hope they realize that means they have to stick to some of the rules.​​
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I am so glad that there is no way they will lock themselves into outdated visuals from the 1960s.

    You ever saw the TOS - Remastered? They did well to bring TOS up to date with newer graphics. I been meaning to buy the DVD series to see it. After seeing pics of what they did. They added lights, engine exhaust glow, better looking weapons fx, etc.

    Fixed the phasers:
    Old:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/enterprise-phasers-obsession.jpg

    New:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/enterprise-phasers-obsession-r.jpg

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    New:
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    Check out the details of the battle damaged Constellation:
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    You can do it TOS style with good graphics that is current.
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  • unclegoldieunclegoldie Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I am so glad that there is no way they will lock themselves into outdated visuals from the 1960s.

    You ever saw the TOS - Remastered? They did well to bring TOS up to date with newer graphics. I been meaning to buy the DVD series to see it. After seeing pics of what they did. They added lights, engine exhaust glow, better looking weapons fx, etc.

    Fixed the phasers:
    Old:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/enterprise-phasers-obsession.jpg

    New:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/enterprise-phasers-obsession-r.jpg

    Going to a station. Check out the Impulse now glowing.
    Old:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/starbase6.jpg

    New:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/starbase-theultimatecomputer-remastered-screen.jpg

    D7 redone
    Old:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/d7-elaanoftroyius1.jpg

    New:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/d7-elaanoftroyius1-r.jpg

    Check out the details of the battle damaged Constellation:
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships/constellation1-r.jpg

    You can do it TOS style with good graphics that is current.

    I have the re-mastered version, and I felt they did a great job "updating" much of the effects while still keeping the feel of the original style. Besides, as clunky as the original effects are compared to nowadays, they were at least a tad better than the competition of the time: Lost In Space and Gerry Anderson.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    They own Trek, thus they make the rules, and can change them whenever they wish, as it should be.

    That's not the question. Of course they can do that, but retconning everything doesn't sit well with a sense of coherency. Whatever they do is of course canon but that doesn't mean their decisions are good or coherent.​​
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    unclegoldie wrote: »

    I have the re-mastered version, and I felt they did a great job "updating" much of the effects while still keeping the feel of the original style. Besides, as clunky as the original effects are compared to nowadays, they were at least a tad better than the competition of the time: Lost In Space and Gerry Anderson.

    This is why I want the series.
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