Seriously. I mean this is Star Trek, the franchise that literally gave birth to the redshirt trope. And with AoY released you put Security officers (NPCs and players alike) in gold uniforms in 23c?
Check out the old episodes, like Everything Old is New where you try to outsmart a security patrol on Drozana - all dressed in gold.
I think, art department, if the thought process really was "people get confused, so we change classic Trek iconography to accomodate for the trinity model" you missed the mark here. Especially since it already has been the other way around.
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Art assessment is spot on. But to be proper redshirts we need more 'crewman Flores' characters to be proper redshirts.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
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Unless a patch changed it since launch, the first AoY episode does feature a redshirt with the expected results.
The Andorian tac boff calls herself a redshirt, but I took that to mean she was one until she was promoted.
...not until the TNG era anyway.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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The security patrol in Everything Old Is New was changed from proper redshirts prior to AoY to goldshirts now.
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OK, I'll go hunt for my torch and pitchfork. They should change them back!
http://i.imgur.com/EhzJmX9.png
Or none of this is consistent and they should just make the low end TOS guys red shirts and not worry about it being confusing.
TNG reversed operations and command colours. Hence Picard and Riker in red. And Geordi and Worf wear gold in TNG.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Maybe it's a side effect of them actually having implemented god as command and red as security since AOY? The old patrol might have been originally deliberately given a different NPC class then would make sense for a security patrol get the red uniforms?
It definitely is, but needs to be fixed. Cryptic has replaced "tactical" with "command" which makes more sense in the canon context, but they still sort "Security" under "Tactical" and now place it in "Command" because it slipped attention to put Security into operations. But STO doesn't differentiate between Operations and Engineering - the trinity is simply not good enough to reflect Star Trek departments.
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Yeah. Cryptic can have Security in "Tactical" colors in the 25th century where the uniform code is their own making, but in the canon time periods Security wears Operations colors. Meaning red in TOS and gold in TNG+.
Worf wore red as a command line till Tasha Yar died. Then went to Operations gold as security chief. When he transferred to DS9 he went to command track again and his colors changed to red again.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
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