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Making GPL a Worthwhile Currency

GPL is one of the few currencies in the game that is actually canon, yet it is the most restricted currency. There are very few, if any, profitable uses for it unless you want a holo-ship emitter, trophies, or some sunglasses. I have some suggestions that might make this currency unique, relevant, and profitable for the players.

1) Acquisition of GPL
Right now GPL is hard to come by in large amounts. Others before me have suggested increasing the stakes at Dabo to increase the amount of GPL that can possibly be earned. This would serve the purpose of being an EC sink and allow players to gain bigger priced items in an expanded store.

2) New Items in the GPL Store
a) Admiralty Cards - Let players be able to buy 1x Admiralty Cards for a set amount of GPL. Perhaps let players select the type/Tier for an increased priced. For example, Shuttles 500 GPL, T1 600 GPL, and of course higher as you went on.
b) Console/Trait/Equips - This recent LB opened the door for selling traits/consoles to other factions ships. A frequent complaint among players is missing old ships and equips for sets. Make special equips/traits/consoles a bundle and sell them in the GPL store like the Vengeance pack is in the Lobi Store. For example, the Secondary Deflector from the Dyson Destroyer, Nandi Console/Trait, Kobali Warp Core/Console/Trait all could be sold in the store for 100,000 GPL or so.
c) T5/T6 Ships - Another potential path could be for them to place the older event ships in the store for GPL. Something similar was done for the Obelisk ship. These would be character unlock ships, but maybe an option could be made for account unlock if you spend more GPL.

Potential Advantages:
1) It makes GPL Relevant
2) Players get access to things they want or may have missed. It gives new players an opportunity to earn the older ships.
3) Cryptic gets good PR because it allows them to give the players something that is requested, but it is not a giveaway.
4) There is no gamblebox mechanic involved. You get ground skills using the Ferengi doff, you get GPL. You do doffing, you get GPL. You spend EC at Dabo you get GPL. People may be encouraged to buy keys to sell for EC to work towards the goal, but everything is definite.

It could work. Just trying to find ways to make GPL relevant to the game.
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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    GPL is extremely easy to get in large quantities. Quickly.
    /channel_join grind
  • orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    I'd be all for 1x Admirality cards in the GPL store, several of my characters are sitting on cargo holds of GPL with nothing interesting enough to spend it on.

    I'm somewhat skeptical of throwing Traits and Starships in the GPL store, considering it's fairly easy to get GPL enmasse, especially if you have the Doff Somog from Broken Circle (?).
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    I'd be just fine with one-time-use Admiralty cards bought with GPL. It'd allow Cryptic to put unique NPC ships in our ship cards that we might not actually fly or acquire in any other way.​​
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    As per another recent thread I thought was interesting, put the nerve tonics from the mission "Night of the Comet" into the GPL store. As well as other rare alcoholic beverages from the show, like 2309 vintage bloodwine! Or since the game has it, Bajoran distilled Kanar. (That would at least give us an easier way to get it for the mission "Second Wave".)
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    GPL is extremely easy to get in large quantities. Quickly.

    That exploit was ended quite a while ago.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    GPL can be gotten really easily to be honest. There's a doff that gives you GPL for every kill on the ground, there's dabo, there's doff missions.
    The only problem is that it serves no purpose at all.

    I would personally make anything fun and cosmetic like uniforms, pets etc. be available with latinum. Basically anything that won't make you a better player but is just a bit of fun.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    I would personally make anything fun and cosmetic like uniforms, pets etc. be available with latinum. Basically anything that won't make you a better player but is just a bit of fun.

    Yeah GPL was always intended to be the novelty currency. Add outfits, uniforms, pets, nerve tonics, tribbles.. but nothing which significantly impacts gameplay.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    That Somog Doff from 'Time in a Bottle' has provided over 40k GPL to one of my characters who did lots of Defera and Kobali Prime for doing what we do best, slaughtering new life and new civilizations.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    I figure we should see if they can make dilithium a worthwhile currency again first.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    I figure we should see if they can make dilithium a worthwhile currency again first.

    You're obviously joking considering how precious dilithium is for basically everything in this game. Upgrades, Fleet gear, Rep Gear, did I mention upgrades.... Zen, Upgrades... Rushing research..

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    I still think it's funny that GPL has relatively little actual value in game, while Lobi Crystals are some of the hardest, most valuable assets in game. In canon, the Ferengi coveted GPL, but Lobi Crystals were a junk rock they tried scamming people with.

    On topic: I doubt we'll see things like traits in the GPL store, as the only source to buy them from, so far, has pretty much been Lockboxes. 1x Admiralty Ships are a nice idea, though.

    Oh, and @gradii, I suspect @warpangel is referring to the fact that Dil now only buys you a fraction of the Zen it used to on the Dil Exchange, in which case, they are not joking at all.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    bergins wrote: »

    Oh, and @gradii, I suspect @warpangel is referring to the fact that Dil now only buys you a fraction of the Zen it used to on the Dil Exchange, in which case, they are not joking at all.

    That in no way means its worthless.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Nobody said it is worthless. Needing to make something worthwhile doesn't mean it is worthless.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
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  • holyknight22holyknight22 Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    Just to reiterate a point, I was not suggesting putting new Traits, Equips, or Ships in the GPL store, but those that have been retired. A frequent request on the forum is to make older ships available for those that might have missed them and cannot obtain them elsewhere. This would be the:

    T5/T6 Breen Ships
    T5/T6 Risa Ships
    T5/T6 Anniversary Ships

    Or at least make their consoles, unique weapons, and traits available in the store, just as the Vengeance pack is doing now. Of course this would require an intensive amount of GPL 500k-1mil to make sure people are not just being handed out the goodies.
  • fatherrockfatherrock Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Repost from another thread, because I missed this one.

    Offer at the Ferengi Tailor, 1 time use unlocks for Character modifications.
    For GPL of course.
    It allows a player to ignore tailor restrictions BUT 'usually not allowed' items
    come at a GPL cost PER ITEM !

    want different ears on you human SURE ?.....for a price.

    want fur skin texture ?..no problem....if you have enough GPL

    want a Jemidar head...not sure why but sure....bring a large bag of GPL...can do.


    Price is given when choosen, in GPL, one time use, if you change your toon back,
    it is gone.

    there ya go
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    GPL is freaking useless! Wish you could actually use it for usefull items as well!
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    We already have enough in-game currency flavor "chaos" as it stands.

    Keep GPL to novelty items only and don't change the acquisition rate.
    It's not you- it's me. I just need my space.

    Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
  • mithrosnomoremithrosnomore Member Posts: 390 Arc User

    Potential Advantages:
    ...
    4) There is no gamblebox mechanic involved. You get ground skills using the Ferengi doff, you get GPL. You do doffing, you get GPL. You spend EC at Dabo you get GPL. People may be encouraged to buy keys to sell for EC to work towards the goal, but everything is definite...

    How much of an "advantage" do you think Cryptic would consider this?

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't every tier 6 ship in the game either a limited time offer or something that requires real money? Zen is money, keys are money (even if not yours), and lobi crystals are money (again, keys).

    Do you not think that is by design?

    Those event giveaway ships are limited time offers because they are supposed to be, not because Cryptic couldn't think of a way to make them attainable in perpetuity.

    Now, 1X Admiralty ships? Sure.
    Maybe even some pets and other little things.

    But tier 6 ships? Bringing the limited time ships back for anyone to grab at any time?

    No. Not going to happen. At least not until tier 8 ships appear in the game (and even then I wouldn't hold my breath, especially regarding the limited time ships).


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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    gradii wrote: »
    GPL is extremely easy to get in large quantities. Quickly.

    That exploit was ended quite a while ago.
    You must be thinking of something else. I'm talking about legit play, here.

    It is a worthless currency at the moment because of how how easy it is to get in relatively large amounts. For it to be used for anything serious would require a complete wipe of GPL and a revamp of the whole GPL system.
    /channel_join grind
  • fatherrockfatherrock Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    Note, as much as some folks will dream...GPL will NEVER buy a premium ship.
    This is F2P, premium ship are what they sell to pay the bills.
    Even if you grind Dil to buy zen for it...someone purchased the zen.

    so, your spinning wheels on PREMIUM ships
  • pcscipiopcscipio Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    I think those items from point 2, would better sit in the dilithium store at rather expensive prices. That's would help the dilithium exchange.
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    fatherrock wrote: »
    Note, as much as some folks will dream...GPL will NEVER buy a premium ship.
    This is F2P, premium ship are what they sell to pay the bills.
    Even if you grind Dil to buy zen for it...someone purchased the zen.

    so, your spinning wheels on PREMIUM ships

    QFT
    It's not you- it's me. I just need my space.

    Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    GPL is extremely easy to get in large quantities. Quickly.

    That exploit was ended quite a while ago.
    You must be thinking of something else. I'm talking about legit play, here.

    It is a worthless currency at the moment because of how how easy it is to get in relatively large amounts. For it to be used for anything serious would require a complete wipe of GPL and a revamp of the whole GPL system.

    You do know a "relatively" large amount of GPL is a few HUNDRED thousand, not a few tens of thousands.

    That's how much some of the prizes cost after all.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    should be used for cosmetics... all those char only cosmetics items from the lobi store should be shifted to gpl
  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    gradii wrote: »
    gradii wrote: »
    GPL is extremely easy to get in large quantities. Quickly.

    That exploit was ended quite a while ago.
    You must be thinking of something else. I'm talking about legit play, here.

    It is a worthless currency at the moment because of how how easy it is to get in relatively large amounts. For it to be used for anything serious would require a complete wipe of GPL and a revamp of the whole GPL system.

    You do know a "relatively" large amount of GPL is a few HUNDRED thousand, not a few tens of thousands.

    That's how much some of the prizes cost after all.
    I'm talking millions, son.
    /channel_join grind
  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    should be used for cosmetics... all those char only cosmetics items from the lobi store should be shifted to gpl

    They moved a few items from the lobi store into the dil store. I say put bound to character lobi outfits into the GPL store, at the very least put pets there.
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