What other Dilithium sinks can be added to the game

spacebaronline

What would be some more dilithium sinks that you think cryptic has in the works. After upgrading my new AOY toon I sunk millions of ec and about 600k dilithium. But this is temporary as these new toons will be upgraded over the next short while. The exchange has already responded and at 393/1 contraband Nerf probably will add to that, but I can see it going up again.

So what major sinks do you see coming? Or perhaps you think there will be more dilithium nerfs?

Maybe T6 level starbases? With customizable living quarters for your character? Sleep for 8 game hours and gain a 20% boost to powers. Calll it the "well rested" bonus. maybe colonize a planet that you base moves to?

I am betting more sinks are coming? But what will they be?

gradii

How about pricing the new consumables in the dill store something worth it?

farmallm

I would like a station just for our AOY. So they can go to. For secret stuff.

trejgon

how about instead of introducing even more redundant and short tem dilithium sinks, actually update whole dilithium system to meet modern standards and solve the issue at its core?

angrybobh

I believe that if they had something small, consumable, and worth it, that sold for a very small amount (like 200-300 dil) it could sink a bunch of dil continuously. The whole problem with Cryptics micro-transaction system is that they deleted the micro. Micro-transactions work because most people don't think about the small purchases they make many times over. I'm not sure what the items should be, perhaps a simple 1 queue/mission combat/damage boost, but it does have to be desirable and perceived as a good deal.

I would also like to see an expansion of the fleet system that included some MK XIV items possibly even some epic quality stuff. Even with the need to develop a whole new holding for a fleet and provisioning for these items, and then paying a high price for them, I would prefer this to the upgrade system. This would sink more of my dil and I'm fairly sure there are others like me out there.

thekodanarmada

How about you wait until you see what the impact is from changes just added, eh?

warpangel

-New or expanded fleet holdings
-Player housing
-Expensive cosmetic items
-"Finish now" buttons on various timed things

The usual.

jaguarskx

- Ship damage requires refined Dil to repair at the shipyard. The more severe the damage, the more dil it costs to initiate the repair. This only affects those who play Advanced or Elite queue missions. It is possible that the Dil cost to repair the ship can exceed the amount of Dil rewarded by the queue missions.

- Those various "components" used to repair ships now costs Dil to purchase. However, purchasing them will cost less than going to the shipyard for repairs.

- Reduce Dil given for completing / replaying story missions.

- Reduce Dil rewarded by the Admiralty system.

- Spotlight Foundry missions rewards a maximum of 1680 Dil once every 20 hours.

- Regular Foundry missions have a max reward of 420 Dil once every 20 hours.

- Forced Labor Camp mission takes 6 hours to complete instead of 4 hours.

- Forced Labor Requisition mission takes 10 hours to complete instead of 8 hours.

- Consign Prisoners to Colonial Labor Battalion mission takes 5 hours to complete instead of 2 hours.

- Pi Canis Sortie Alpha and Bravo missions have 20 hour cooldown instead of 30 minutes.

- Only to be used in dire situations.... reduce refinement cap down to either 7k or 6k per day.

ssbn655

spacebaronline wrote: »

What would be some more dilithium sinks that you think cryptic has in the works. After upgrading my new AOY toon I sunk millions of ec and about 600k dilithium. But this is temporary as these new toons will be upgraded over the next short while. The exchange has already responded and at 393/1 contraband Nerf probably will add to that, but I can see it going up again.

So what major sinks do you see coming? Or perhaps you think there will be more dilithium nerfs?

Maybe T6 level starbases? With customizable living quarters for your character? Sleep for 8 game hours and gain a 20% boost to powers. Calll it the "well rested" bonus. maybe colonize a planet that you base moves to?

I am betting more sinks are coming? But what will they be?

Problem isn't Dilthium sinks but the refining cap. Up that cap and excess dilth will go away fast. I get more in a day then I can refine in a week.

warpangel

ssbn655 wrote: »

spacebaronline wrote: »

What would be some more dilithium sinks that you think cryptic has in the works. After upgrading my new AOY toon I sunk millions of ec and about 600k dilithium. But this is temporary as these new toons will be upgraded over the next short while. The exchange has already responded and at 393/1 contraband Nerf probably will add to that, but I can see it going up again.

So what major sinks do you see coming? Or perhaps you think there will be more dilithium nerfs?

Maybe T6 level starbases? With customizable living quarters for your character? Sleep for 8 game hours and gain a 20% boost to powers. Calll it the "well rested" bonus. maybe colonize a planet that you base moves to?

I am betting more sinks are coming? But what will they be?

Problem isn't Dilthium sinks but the refining cap. Up that cap and excess dilth will go away fast. I get more in a day then I can refine in a week.

That's not what excess dilithium means.

ikonn

Something else to consider... Make donating dil to fleet projects more worthwhile. The current exchange rate is 1 dil = 1 fleet credit. Why not increase the payout to something like 3 or 5 FCs per dil donated?

sylveriarelden

ssbn655 wrote: »

spacebaronline wrote: »

What would be some more dilithium sinks that you think cryptic has in the works. After upgrading my new AOY toon I sunk millions of ec and about 600k dilithium. But this is temporary as these new toons will be upgraded over the next short while. The exchange has already responded and at 393/1 contraband Nerf probably will add to that, but I can see it going up again.

So what major sinks do you see coming? Or perhaps you think there will be more dilithium nerfs?

Maybe T6 level starbases? With customizable living quarters for your character? Sleep for 8 game hours and gain a 20% boost to powers. Calll it the "well rested" bonus. maybe colonize a planet that you base moves to?

I am betting more sinks are coming? But what will they be?

Problem isn't Dilthium sinks but the refining cap. Up that cap and excess dilth will go away fast. I get more in a day then I can refine in a week.

This whole argument (Refine Cap versus Ease of Acquisition) really gives me a headache.

Much like the Chicken vs Egg debate... both are problematic, which logic would conclude the problem is the Dilithium system itself, not the method of usage. So remove the Dilithium system, make it all EC for in-game items and Zen for the C-Store ("extras" people want) with real cash, and voila!, the problem is solved.

Of course, they're not going to do that- so we're going to see these threads until they shut down the servers.

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salazarraze

I would pay 1 million dilithium EACH for the following

* Ability to target players on any map (60 minute ability limit)
* Buy a ground device that (when activated) forces all friendly player characters to face and salute my character (Credit: Crosis)
* New character unlock (instead of account wide to maximize sink effect) outfits from the dilithium store (Obsidian Order Uniform etc.)

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born2bwild1

coldnapalm wrote: »

One use borg cubes...for 1 mil dil. That should crash the market sufficently.

Borg Cubes might be coming in the next lock box!!

ichaerus1

How's about transferring all the lobi store costumes and "themed gear" to the appropriate reputations, gate them to T5, make them Bind to Character for the price of dilithium? Elachi to Romulan, Herald to Iconian, Voth Soldier Outfit to Dyson, Undine to 8472, Vaudwaar to Delta, for example?

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shadowfirefly00

ichaerus1 wrote: »

How's about transferring all the lobi store costumes and "themed gear" to the appropriate reputations, gate them to T5, make them Bind to Character for the price of dilithium? Elachi to Romulan, Herald to Iconian, Voth Soldier Outfit to Dyson, Undine to 8472, Vaudwaar to Delta, for example?

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing I've been saying for a while (it also ties into the fact that the existence of the Lobi Consortium itself is, as noted in various other threads, hard to justify in terms of lore). And it's not like there's no precedent for this sort of thing - just look at the Task Force Omega rep store!

As for cosmetic items: again, now that ship visual slots exist, just think of the possibilities there. Cases in point as 'shield-visual-slot-only' items: 'v2' Imperial regalia (white w/red accents) for Federation ships; spook hull patterns (from the dedicated intel ships); and even the Vengeance's distinct 'material'...

thevampinator

They have recently added several items from lobi store to dil store. But yeah they could make it where you can get costumes with dill. But not if you have a teir five in anything. But maybe it would cost like 100000 dill for each costume. But cheaper getting the costume with lobi. It could work.

duncanidaho11

Cardassian tailor on DS9, offering existing but presently inaccessible tailor options (ex. Scientist Jacket, Ocampa, Hazari, never released MACO, Omega, Honor Guard variants) for dilithium.

alexvio1

What can be a sink? Sell discontinued items for insane prices in dilithium and EC. For example: summer, winter and other event ships, items from CC, mirror and breach events, the nagus ship (ok, in that case they can add latinum to the price). Too much can be added to the game a sink. Also they can add a lottery. I don't see any reasons why this can't be added to the game, they just don't want to do it because too much simpler increase cooldown for the contraband turn in mission.

ssbn655

crashdragon wrote: »

Have to refuel every 5 light years.​​

Yeah really? So you want to really hamper new players who have no dilith and restrict them to thier starting area right? Great way to drive new players away.

anitonen

shadowfirefly00 wrote: »

ichaerus1 wrote: »

How's about transferring all the lobi store costumes and "themed gear" to the appropriate reputations, gate them to T5, make them Bind to Character for the price of dilithium? Elachi to Romulan, Herald to Iconian, Voth Soldier Outfit to Dyson, Undine to 8472, Vaudwaar to Delta, for example?

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing I've been saying for a while (it also ties into the fact that the existence of the Lobi Consortium itself is, as noted in various other threads, hard to justify in terms of lore). And it's not like there's no precedent for this sort of thing - just look at the Task Force Omega rep store!

Or how about making such lobi items available for your characters once another character in the same account gets a Lobi store item? Say for example you purchase a costume *cough*ship*cough* from lobi store on a character using lobi and after your character unpacks/owns it then another character on the same account can also own the same item after paying 1 gazillion dil. (Obviously I have no idea how that might affect the revenue that comes into the game from lock boxes, so just a thought.)

ltminns

None. We got one of the biggest ones running right now - Upgrade Weekend.

warpangel

ichaerus1 wrote: »

How's about transferring all the lobi store costumes and "themed gear" to the appropriate reputations, gate them to T5, make them Bind to Character for the price of dilithium? Elachi to Romulan, Herald to Iconian, Voth Soldier Outfit to Dyson, Undine to 8472, Vaudwaar to Delta, for example?

I would rather see they create something new for us to buy, instead of "transfering" all the stuff we already have.

Even if just recycling existing graphics, the game is still full of NPC-only costume parts that could be put up for sale.

kurumimorishita

Make weapon mods changeable.. for a hefty amount of dilithium.

shadowfirefly00

warpangel wrote: »

ichaerus1 wrote: »

How's about transferring all the lobi store costumes and "themed gear" to the appropriate reputations, gate them to T5, make them Bind to Character for the price of dilithium? Elachi to Romulan, Herald to Iconian, Voth Soldier Outfit to Dyson, Undine to 8472, Vaudwaar to Delta, for example?

I would rather see they create something new for us to buy, instead of "transfering" all the stuff we already have.

This is actually one of those cases where 'both' is an acceptable answer.

kurumimorishita wrote: »

Make weapon mods changeable.. for a hefty amount of dilithium.

Actually, this segues into discussions elsewhere about applying the ship/console and kit/module logic to weapons and their mod - imagine, by way of example, a CrtH mod usable in any beam or cannon weapon... one could invest dilithium (and the relevant upgrade kits) to bump it up to CrtH2 and eventually CrtH3. And yes, this process would also logically apply to kit modules. For a look at how this could apply to ground weaons (and tricorders), feel free to peruse this.

jexsamx

I like the idea of respecs being made for dil. Making them available for dil instead of zen opens them up for more players. It's something a lot of players will want at some point. It would likely see a lot of use from players who like to do a lot of spec experimentation, and not locking it behind real money makes that easier. Costumes, even per-character, are still one-time buys. New players could come in and buy them, yeah, but still only one per toon if they even want that many. Personally I'm avoiding them entirely - not much of a good dil sink if that turns out to be a common response, eh?

I don't know how well respecs sell in the zen store, but it seems to me to be the only thing that is guaranteed to be in demand and continuously drain dil.

peterconnorfirst

I think cryptic made a good call adding more special items to the dil store. Old event rewards would be cool and especially more cosmetic unlocks.

The series are full of costumes I’d love to get for my toons.

Time gates as in fleet holdings or any sort of stuff that ads to power creep however I consider bad at this point as the DPS span is already at 410k.

Dil sinks should not only be addressed at min/maxers as they used to but better at the Space-Barbie community as whole. It’s a much wider target group and I bet there is a "must have" 2 mil dil costume around for each and everybody.

Full fleet holding interiors cost easily 1,2mil+ Dil per category. In the future I think it is time to decorate private interiors of ships as well so every RPer can go for it and not only the 0-3 dedicated peeps in each fleet…

darthorici

i do not know what they were thinking. they want people to keep dill or not. i could see it if it based the price on you dill amount. i am have 50k of dill. but i use some for my fleet i am in or when a ship that has fighter. but to stock up on dill to buy a outfit ids dumb idea.