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indyguycb77indyguycb77 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
I am currently running a 970GTX , Skylake CPU 6600K, 16GB DDR4 . Samsung SSD.

I should have no issues with performance. I play games much more graphically advanced than this. If I had not paid money for things I would not complain.

Older missions especially ground missions are nearly unplayable. Will they ever fix it or will I have to seek legal action to recoup some of my 400$ I spent on this game. You have been on notice about the issues? You failed to even attempt to fix them. That by legal definition is gross negligence. Your EULA and ToS can not protect against that no contract can.

I will be less angrly if the 1.1GB update fixes these missions and the known physics bugs.

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  • atomicmunkey#9096 atomicmunkey Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    If you really want to take action against them do it. Might actually make PWE finally kill this game and make a new engine. Which is the real problem. I have a simillar setup, I have performance issues too. The real problems are the game's engine it runs off of, and Cryptic's routing/ISP issues.
  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I say they do need a wake up call..Because the level of problems to game has especially server side are huge..While the game dynamics are good, NOT GREAT, the amount of bugs in it kill the experience..And for people shelling out $$$ for this need to get their worth for it..

    PS they dont need to kill the game they just need to actually upgrade the engine instead of giving us expansions and seasons with ridiculously huge 500-600MB+ patches..
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    If you really want to take action against them do it. Might actually make PWE finally kill this game and make a new engine. Which is the real problem. I have a simillar setup, I have performance issues too. The real problems are the game's engine it runs off of, and Cryptic's routing/ISP issues.

    Just wait....wait until it goes to console. >:)
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    I don't know what to tell you, I have an almost identical system to you and the game runs perfectly fine for me. It also runs great on my Laptop and my Brother in Law plays it on a system that's all around inferior to yours with no issue at all.

    Without knowing more about your system and connection, it's almost impossible to know why you're having problems.
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  • sarreoussarreous Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.
  • sgtfloydpepper#7911 sgtfloydpepper Member Posts: 1,111 Arc User
    sarreous wrote: »
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.

    Actually, all evidence points to it being 100% server side. This problem started for a lot of people with the June 16th patch and has gotten significantly worse and more frequent with each patch after that. Being that there are no routing issues found in any of the trace routes I've seen posted in other threads, the logical conclusion would be that this is either a coding issue with the various updates or faulty software/hardware somewhere in Cryptic's server system causing all these SNR's and random disconnections.
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  • futahimechanfutahimechan Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    A relatively minor issue, but one that has been around for 3 years or more...maybe it's the engine, I dunno. Figure I'd mention it in here instead of making a new post, but in being one who has strong attention to detail, I quite enjoy visiting my starship bridge, but with Federation Vessel bridges there is a rather annoying little bug. That bug being that my crew members seem to have some difficulty sitting on their seats properly, I use a medium layout, and I think it's basic themes like future etc, but always have one or two bridge officers basically hovering above their seats a bit, or in one case, sitting inside the raised deck area in front of the Captain's chair rather than on their assigned seat. It's a niggling little detail, but one I have observed on multiple occasions ever since I first started playing back in 2013.
  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    sarreous wrote: »
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.

    Dude check ut the forums properly man..There is nearly a full page of threads on the server issue and many have the same say that it is the cryptic server and not our ISP'S..I checked with a couple of networking friends with all the logs and they all say its a server side issue of the host ie: CRYPTIC..
    Me for example playing from the subcontinent can play SWTOR maxed out with a youtube video streaming and automatic update running in the back ground and have all devices in the house on WiFi connected on the same connection and never ever get any connectivity issues whilst playing..But with STO I have every possible server related issue (Lags, unexpected DC's (atleast 4-5 an hour on occassions) and SNR's over 45 seconds..) even after switching off the wifi and closing anything needing the internet in the background including automatic updates..

    No offense intended here but just saying..
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  • sgtfloydpepper#7911 sgtfloydpepper Member Posts: 1,111 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    sarreous wrote: »
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.

    Actually, all evidence points to it being 100% server side. This problem started for a lot of people with the June 16th patch and has gotten significantly worse and more frequent with each patch after that. Being that there are no routing issues found in any of the trace routes I've seen posted in other threads, the logical conclusion would be that this is either a coding issue with the various updates or faulty software/hardware somewhere in Cryptic's server system causing all these SNR's and random disconnections.

    By 100%...you mean 0%...right? Because if it was 100%, that would mean we ALL would be affected by this issue...and that is CLEARLY not the case. If it is a completely 100% serverside issue, it should affect EVERYONE...since we have at least two people who have said otherwise, you are at this point 100% wrong in your claim.

    As it was explained to me by a professional who works in the industry, the various data stored for our characters/etc aren't necessarily all stored in one place, depending on how their servers are setup. A percentage of people's data could be stored on one cluster while another percentage in another cluster. Thus, if a particular cluster isn't working properly, it will only affect those with data stored there, not everyone. That said, it would still be 100% a server side issue and still not affect everyone. This could be caused by bad coding or faulty equipment. It's been pretty consistent problem that worsened with a particular patch to the game.

    I already ruled out ISP problems, routing issues, and tested any hardware at home weeks ago when the problem started, so that leaves cryptic's servers as the likely culprit. In the last couple of maintenance periods, it's gotten better with each patch (for me), which, again, supports that it's a problem on their end. I still get a few SNR's every few hours, but at least I'm not disconnecting every 5-10 minutes like it was between June 16th - July 21st.

    I at least consulted people who understand what they're talking about, napalm. You just like spewing vitriol around the forums as if you're god's gift to the internet. If all you're capable of doing is making angry comments and flaming people (which your forum history is full of), maybe you should try World of Warcraft's forums. You'll find they're much more receptive to your low brow antics and childish nature.

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  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    salvation4 wrote: »
    sarreous wrote: »
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.

    Dude check ut the forums properly man..There is nearly a full page of threads on the server issue and many have the same say that it is the cryptic server and not our ISP'S..I checked with a couple of networking friends with all the logs and they all say its a server side issue of the host ie: CRYPTIC..
    Me for example playing from the subcontinent can play SWTOR maxed out with a youtube video streaming and automatic update running in the back ground and have all devices in the house on WiFi connected on the same connection and never ever get any connectivity issues whilst playing..But with STO I have every possible server related issue (Lags, unexpected DC's (atleast 4-5 an hour on occassions) and SNR's over 45 seconds..) even after switching off the wifi and closing anything needing the internet in the background including automatic updates..

    No offense intended here but just saying..

    All you have proven with this statement is that you have NO IDEA HOW THE INTERNET WORKS. And neither does a rather large portion of this forum. Or hell, dare I say it, people in general. People think like you do...and you are WRONG. IF it is a server side issue and not a connection issue, it would affect EVERYONE. There was a time where it was a server side issue and EVERYONE had lag. This was right after DR. So unless you see posts that says that EVERYONE is lagging, those posts you claiming it is a server side issue is nothing more then people who also don't know how the internet works. So...yeah no offense (actually that is a lie)...but your ignorance is showing...might wanna cover that up the next time.

    Ok Mr. Know it all..Explain to me why the heck does everything I use work so damn well including SWTOR (maxed out on a US server) and its only STO that has a problem?? I would like to know it from you the all knowing person who thinks network professionals in the industry for ages one of them working at an airline hub charged with taking care of global network, are a bunch of idiots..Seriously??? No offense intended (Sarcasim)..Plus I have done my CCNA & CCNP..
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  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    salvation4 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    salvation4 wrote: »
    sarreous wrote: »
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.

    Dude check ut the forums properly man..There is nearly a full page of threads on the server issue and many have the same say that it is the cryptic server and not our ISP'S..I checked with a couple of networking friends with all the logs and they all say its a server side issue of the host ie: CRYPTIC..
    Me for example playing from the subcontinent can play SWTOR maxed out with a youtube video streaming and automatic update running in the back ground and have all devices in the house on WiFi connected on the same connection and never ever get any connectivity issues whilst playing..But with STO I have every possible server related issue (Lags, unexpected DC's (atleast 4-5 an hour on occassions) and SNR's over 45 seconds..) even after switching off the wifi and closing anything needing the internet in the background including automatic updates..

    No offense intended here but just saying..

    All you have proven with this statement is that you have NO IDEA HOW THE INTERNET WORKS. And neither does a rather large portion of this forum. Or hell, dare I say it, people in general. People think like you do...and you are WRONG. IF it is a server side issue and not a connection issue, it would affect EVERYONE. There was a time where it was a server side issue and EVERYONE had lag. This was right after DR. So unless you see posts that says that EVERYONE is lagging, those posts you claiming it is a server side issue is nothing more then people who also don't know how the internet works. So...yeah no offense (actually that is a lie)...but your ignorance is showing...might wanna cover that up the next time.

    Ok Mr. Know it all..Explain to me why the heck does everything I use work so damn well including SWTOR (maxed out on a US server) and its only STO that has a problem?? I would like to know it from you the all knowing person who thinks network professionals in the industry for ages one of them working at an airline hub charged with taking care of global network, are a bunch of idiots..Seriously??? No offense intended (Sarcasim)..Plus I have done my CCNA & CCNP..

    I already explained why this string of logic is wrong. I am not going to explain it again. I'm sorry...but i can't fix stupid...and neither can cryptic.

    Watch who you call stupid you dumb TRIBBLE..Its actually funny that the moderators arent doing anything..Actuallly you didnt explain jack TRIBBLE except for mention two words about coding..You must be chicken to actually admit you know noothing and are just acting like you know TRIBBLE after googling it..Your post history makes it very clear also your more a troller who loves to talk rubish like Dil for uniform where you say its a dil sink..GROW UP KIDDO..

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  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    salvation4 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    salvation4 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    salvation4 wrote: »
    sarreous wrote: »
    You failed to even attempt to fix them.

    I'm sure they could easily disprove that accusation. Besides, it's more than likely your internet connection. Here's something for you to try http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Sometimes connections just suck. Cryptic can put out a patch that fixes the issue for one group of players only for it to cause issues for another group. Too many variables. Or it could be your own internet provider.

    Dude check ut the forums properly man..There is nearly a full page of threads on the server issue and many have the same say that it is the cryptic server and not our ISP'S..I checked with a couple of networking friends with all the logs and they all say its a server side issue of the host ie: CRYPTIC..
    Me for example playing from the subcontinent can play SWTOR maxed out with a youtube video streaming and automatic update running in the back ground and have all devices in the house on WiFi connected on the same connection and never ever get any connectivity issues whilst playing..But with STO I have every possible server related issue (Lags, unexpected DC's (atleast 4-5 an hour on occassions) and SNR's over 45 seconds..) even after switching off the wifi and closing anything needing the internet in the background including automatic updates..

    No offense intended here but just saying..

    All you have proven with this statement is that you have NO IDEA HOW THE INTERNET WORKS. And neither does a rather large portion of this forum. Or hell, dare I say it, people in general. People think like you do...and you are WRONG. IF it is a server side issue and not a connection issue, it would affect EVERYONE. There was a time where it was a server side issue and EVERYONE had lag. This was right after DR. So unless you see posts that says that EVERYONE is lagging, those posts you claiming it is a server side issue is nothing more then people who also don't know how the internet works. So...yeah no offense (actually that is a lie)...but your ignorance is showing...might wanna cover that up the next time.

    Ok Mr. Know it all..Explain to me why the heck does everything I use work so damn well including SWTOR (maxed out on a US server) and its only STO that has a problem?? I would like to know it from you the all knowing person who thinks network professionals in the industry for ages one of them working at an airline hub charged with taking care of global network, are a bunch of idiots..Seriously??? No offense intended (Sarcasim)..Plus I have done my CCNA & CCNP..

    I already explained why this string of logic is wrong. I am not going to explain it again. I'm sorry...but i can't fix stupid...and neither can cryptic.

    Watch who you call stupid you dumb ****..Its actually funny that the moderators arent doing anything..Actuallly you didnt explain jack **** except for mention two words about coding..You must be chicken to actually admit you know noothing and are just acting like you know **** after googling it..Your post history makes it very clear also your more a troller who loves to talk rubish like Dil for uniform where you say its a dil sink..GROW UP KIDDO..

    Wow...even your name calling is stupid. Really, that drivel was the best your mighty intellect could manage? Yeah...sorry, but cryptic can't fix that. Oh and i love how in your twisted logic, somebody disagrees with me equals troll. Yep, you really showed me off with this post...you don't look even more stupid now...way to go there skippy.

    No point talking to a TRIBBLE who has delusions of grandeur, plus I'm mature enough to not want to use colorful metaphors and waste my brain power continuing a comment thread with a TRIBBLE..Come and comment in the threads in the network forums then we will see..Till then go have your baby food and see you in the network threads if you have the balls to say what you say here, to everyone who has commented about the server issues in those threads..
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  • xayssxayss Member Posts: 391 Arc User
    i read i follow many advices and all come same conclusion is server problem, many game i play online lineage ,swars,wow etc no problem with that. sto all complete list of problems, freeze graphic,lag, sound problems etc.
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