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Lobi store consumable devices going into dilithium store
monkeybone13
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It's up on Tribble server now. http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1218953/tribble-maintenance-and-release-notes-july-15-2016
From the looks of things on Tribble, all, or at least most, consumable ground and ship devices in the lobi store are being moved to the dilithium store.
Ship batteries and ground devices are going to be 2,000 dil each, while the team version will be 4,000 dil each. Special ground devices, such as the Psionic Dampener, Tachyon Grenade, and Nanoenergy Cells will be 4,000 dil each. So a full stack of 20 'Battery - Auxilliary and Shields' will cost 40k dil while the team version will cost twice that.
10 packs of consumable ground combat pets will be 40,000 dilithium, which comes out to 4k dil each. However, the single version of ground combat pets will be 10,000 dil each (an increase of 6k each compared to the 10 packs).
I'm sorry, but these prices are insane.
But........I suspect this was Cryptic's solution.
Solution to what? Well.......
Players: "The dil/zen exchange is too high"
Cryptic: "Let's give them useless items to waste their dil on over and over that literally costs them thousands of dil each"
Genius!
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Several consumables previously only available on the Lobi Crystal Store have been added to the Dilithium Store.Several consumables previously only available on the Lobi Crystal Store have been added to the Dilithium Store.
From the looks of things on Tribble, all, or at least most, consumable ground and ship devices in the lobi store are being moved to the dilithium store.
Ship batteries and ground devices are going to be 2,000 dil each, while the team version will be 4,000 dil each. Special ground devices, such as the Psionic Dampener, Tachyon Grenade, and Nanoenergy Cells will be 4,000 dil each. So a full stack of 20 'Battery - Auxilliary and Shields' will cost 40k dil while the team version will cost twice that.
10 packs of consumable ground combat pets will be 40,000 dilithium, which comes out to 4k dil each. However, the single version of ground combat pets will be 10,000 dil each (an increase of 6k each compared to the 10 packs).
I'm sorry, but these prices are insane.
But........I suspect this was Cryptic's solution.
Solution to what? Well.......
Players: "The dil/zen exchange is too high"
Cryptic: "Let's give them useless items to waste their dil on over and over that literally costs them thousands of dil each"
Genius!
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From the Tribble patch notes:
So yeah. They're fixing the economy.
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I'm just surprised because usually that "panic" carries over to the forums, and nobody here is talking about it much.
I was hoping for a good solution for the economy, but instead they decide to nerf getting dil in 1 part of the game, and give us consumables in the dilithium store that are way to expensive to justify the dil nerf.
I also wonder if they have more dilithium nerfs in the game planned. Hell, might as well just cut the daily dil refinement in half, to 4k per character per day, while they're at it.
Thankfully, this is from Tribble, the test server. So it might get adjusted before going live.
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Maybe.
(Ah well, even at 2k/each they'd still be cheaper than dropping Lobi on them lol.)
So it lowers the supply of dil for farmers much more, increasing the value of the dil casuals have.
That's why it's good to leave feedback before it goes live.
To be honest, I would like the dil/zen exchange to come down. But........
Dil exchange early this morning was around 450, give or take a few dil (Or maybe it was yesterday? I forgot if I took the sc this morning or yesterday):
The dil exchange at the time of posting:
Went down about 50 points in 24 hours or less and seems to be continuing to drop fast. With how popular the Kelvin lock box is, I wasn't expecting the exchange to go down for a while, and when it did it would go down at a steady pace.
The exchange suddenly dropping in a short amount of time seems rather odd. If a new fleet holding or other dil sink were announced (something that people actually wanted to spend their dil on), then the drop would be expected because it would mean people are saving their dil.
But so far I haven't seen anything new announced that would require large amounts of dil. And I highly doubt people are saving up their dil for those consumable devices soon to be in the dil store.
Something is going on.
Noooooooo!!!!!!
Hmm...... 77 zen at 491, 14 zen at 382, 5k at 380. (It went back up to about 390 while posting this) I wonder if someone is buying zen then relisting it at a loss to force the prices to go down. Rather odd indeed.
With this kind of pricing for consumables, I'd rather spend my dil on non-consumable stuff I don't have to keep buying, like reputation and fleet gear.
Maybe......maybe they'll put lobi store outfits in the dil store next? I'd spend my dil on that. Like, 100k dil per outfit (it could stay as a per character purchase and I'd still buy it).
Edit: Dil exchange back under 380 again. Darn thing is a yo-yo right now. LOL
Here is another useless item to put into the Dilithium Store for insane prices. More different colored EV Suits.
Forget about Racial Traits and making them all the freaking same. Don't you think somebody from some Race would exhibit some ability that most others from their Race doesn't have. Makes them special, someone who would have gone into this because they excelled, had that higher calling so to speak. Instead we have Cryptic just acceding to a bland profile, believing that only certain races know anything about effectively performing in Space Combat. Why did these Officers aspire to the Stars - so they can all be ground pounders?
l don't know.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
This. I think increasing the CD of contraband is a good thing. Sinks aren't really the only solution because not everyone farms dilithium and are dilithium rich. IMO the problem with dilithium oversupply comes from all the players that grind so many alts just to farm dilithium.
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Only really dumb people are going to spend dil on that. 40k for some consumables? Yeah right. You know what doesn't cost 40k and is more effective than just about all of those? A photon grenade.
She's non-reclaimable and is supposed to be a character, why take away what makes her unique? This is stupid.
..I'm still keeping her, though.
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Two stupids don't make a right: 2k Dil for 1 consumable (regular) battery is insane.
I agree with that. I'm sure there are players with 20+ characters parked in front of security officers to turn in contraband every 4 hours. With just 10 characters, that would be 20,000 refined dilithium every 4 hours, or 80,000 per day if hitting the refinement cap on all of them. Just buy 50 character slots and the refined dil adds up quickly. And while waiting to turn in more contraband, I'm sure they farm large amounts of ec to buy more contraband.
Another thing is, we wouldn't need so many alts we never play if it weren't for the daily refinement limit. Having many characters to get the dil you need becomes a necessity, especially when you're looking at around 32k dil each for a reputation ship set, fleet gear, and everything else. 8k per day for a single character just doesn't cut it. It doesn't take too long to create a new character and get it to level 11 to unlock the doff system.
Item upgrade weekend. I forgot about that. Derp. People are hoarding their dil for now, with is causing zen sellers to drop their price. /facepalm moment on my part
3 lefts make a right actually.
Umm........
Let's see. What would a fair price be that is reasonable?
100 dilithium for ship/ground consumables, 200 dil for the team versions and special ground devices including consumable combat pets. A pack of 10 combat pets would be discounted at 1,500 dil (150 dil each). This means it would cost 2,000 dil for a stack of 20 ship batteries. If you spend a lot of time in the Badlands, or Dyson Sphere ground battlezone, you could easily go through multiple stacks of consumables. At 40k dil for a stack, it isn't worth it, but at 2k a stack it could be.
Hmmm........Something I forgot to mention was the sell zen tab. There were large gaps in the prices instead of it being incremental (for example: 365, 366, 372, 374, etc. -not exact but you get the idea), and the highest buy order at that time was around 20 dil per zen less than the lowest sell order.
Soon after I mentioned it here the price was dropping fast and in large chunks, things changed. Quickly all sell orders below 400 dil per zen were gone, just plain bought up. Earlier there, when I posted, there was around 20,600 zen at 400 dil each. When it quickly shot back up to 400, there was over 50k zen at 400 dil each for a little while. Buy orders went incrimental, starting at 399 or 398 and going down 1 dil at a time with a few hundred dil at each increment. For a couple hours now it's been stuck at 400, and 399, dil per zen and seems to have come to a complete trickle, only going down 1 dil at a time, with a little zen that sells quickly.
Based on my recent observations, I'd say the dil/zen exchange is being manipulated, to keep the price high and not allow it to go down at a fast rate. It just doesn't make sense that so soon after I mention it on the forums, suddenly the price shoots back up and stays there. Screenshot in above post: almost 9,854 zen at 356 dil each, then in a span of about an hour or so, the whole thing shot back up to 400 dil even.
No, it isn't. It's just unnecessary. I doubt anyone ever bought them for lobi, and I doubt anyone will buy them for dilithium. The game is simply too easy.
Personally, I never even use the free batteries that drop from enemies. Loading them into the device slot is more work than it's worth.
Ah I hate to see this happen That is my Favorite mission