'Overwhelmingly Positive' buzz for BEYOND; Abrams talks TREK 4

mhall85

Thanks to some of the other premieres around the world, word is beginning to spread about Star Trek Beyond... and the words I'm seeing on r/StarTrek are 'overwhelmingly positive.' No links to that part, just in case they contain spoilers... you can find the articles/posts easy enough. The bottom line is: this is great to hear, and I think this franchise will have a monster week next week.

As for the future, J.J. Abrams and Bad Robot aren't going anywhere, folks. The fourth Kelvin Timeline movie has NOT been officially greenlit... but Abrams and the team are already talking about it. He also said that Pavel Chekov won't be re-cast, and they will figure out a way to handle the character's absence once the fourth film is a go.

My hope is that people will give this movie an honest shot... and, yes, I'm mainly talking to the people who don't like Abrams. Some still won't, I know... although, I personally think that's a lie, and they'll just be closet Abrams fans. But, this excites me to hear such positivity around the film side of the franchise, and STILL before we learn anything about the new series.

And, to the four or so people on here that threatened to leave the franchise because of more "JJTrek"... bye, Felicia.

iconians

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markhawkman

I'mma watch it. It seems like an entertaining movie.

sarreous

I'll likely end up seeing it in theaters. For the Chekov character, I was just thinking that they should recast him. This isn't a matter of "replacing" him. It's a matter of keeping the character and the dynamics they provide in the story.

As an alternative, if they were planning to do a fifth movie, write him out of the fourth, then once everyone's more ready for a new guy introduce him in the fifth.

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evilmark444

sarreous wrote: »

I'll likely end up seeing it in theaters. For the Chekov character, I was just thinking that they should recast him. This isn't a matter of "replacing" him. It's a matter of keeping the character and the dynamics they provide in the story.

As an alternative, if they were planning to do a fifth movie, write him out of the fourth, then once everyone's more ready for a new guy introduce him in the fifth.

I'd prefer it if they wrote him out of the story permanently. Maybe have Walter Koenig make a cameo as Prime Chekhov or just future JJ Chekhov if they want to have all the characters, but I really don't like it when characters are recast, no matter what the reason (age being the one exception).

smokebailey

Another films I won't be watching.

markhawkman

evilmark444 wrote: »

sarreous wrote: »

I'll likely end up seeing it in theaters. For the Chekov character, I was just thinking that they should recast him. This isn't a matter of "replacing" him. It's a matter of keeping the character and the dynamics they provide in the story.

As an alternative, if they were planning to do a fifth movie, write him out of the fourth, then once everyone's more ready for a new guy introduce him in the fifth.

I'd prefer it if they wrote him out of the story permanently. Maybe have Walter Koenig make a cameo as Prime Chekhov or just future JJ Chekhov if they want to have all the characters, but I really don't like it when characters are recast, no matter what the reason (age being the one exception).

Agreed. It's an alt-U anyways, the cast is already different.

iconians

I think they should keep Chekov absent in the 4th movie, but by the 5th movie they really should recast him. The show does go on, and having him absent in one movie should be respectful enough -- and gives ample time for audiences (and the cast and crew of the show) to heal from the loss of Anton Yelchin.

It should also be important that whoever they recast doesn't try to imitate Anton Yelchin's performance, much in the same way Adam Lambert insists he'll never try to imitate Freddie Mercury in Queen.​​

thekodanarmada

I think many don't understand the significance of the Chekov character to the series. He was indisputably Russian in a time where the US had existential conflict with Russians, both in series and films. His character is all about lasting peace.

He isn't an optional part of the series.

amosov78

They could always bring in Saavik early, and if they make her half-Romulan it could add an interesting dynamic with Spock (planet destroyed/mother killed by Romulans) and Kirk (father killed by Romulans).

Also, new clip: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AEmGpXOLFBk

markhawkman

Yeah Saavik was an interesting character.

marcusdkane

Or Ilia... (prefereably not Valeris)

I'm actually looking forward to seeing this movie

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themetalstickman

Well it is an alternate universe after all. Not having Chekov around is perfectly ok IMO.

galatt

I will go see the movie. They aren't great movies, but I enjoy them and that all ask for for my ticket money.
Give Chekov a great heroic self-sacrificial moment in the next one, then bring in M'Ress to replace him. Remember, he wasn't in the animated series

daveyny

galatt wrote: »

I will go see the movie. They aren't great movies, but I enjoy them and that all ask for for my ticket money.
Give Chekov a great heroic self-sacrificial moment in the next one, then bring in M'Ress to replace him. Remember, he wasn't in the animated series

I agree, let Alt-Chekov go out with a bang, then intro a new character.

I'd love to see Arex be portrayed in a live action film, especially since he's supposed to have been one of Chekov's instructors at the Academy.

They already kinda-sorta had a similar version of him in Trek-2009...


(comparison)...


Please note I said SIMILAR, not exact.

artan42

This sort of pleases me. But 09 also had good reviews. It's only the whining minority that unreasonably hates that film. That tells me I'll probably enjoy it and that it'll p1ss of some people that would do to any change.​​

hawku001x

Got my advanced tix for this moving pictures presentation. It's going to a hot doosey in the old pop box tonight! /Regis Philbin intensity

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hawku001x

I would want to call it after this movie and let this alt universe be self contained within a trilogy. Then maybe do a prime universe movie based on the prime universe tv series that's coming out (confirmed! Well, maybe not).

smokebailey

hawku001x wrote: »

I would want to call it after this movie and let this alt universe be self contained within a trilogy. Then maybe do a prime universe movie based on the prime universe tv series that's coming out (confirmed! Well, maybe not).

That's what I want....I want the old universe back....not more reboots.

daveyny

I like having both... means more stuff to put in the game.

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amosov78

This trailer shows a few new shots: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lDWIc4MGirE

lordrezeon

I have to agree with some of the other comments above, there are many characters who were members of the Enterprise's crew that haven't been seen yet.

Arex, M'Ress, Xon (an unused Vulcan character that was written for ST Phase II), Ilia, Decker, and Saavik are all candidates that I think would make interesting replacements for Chekhov's character.

One of the best things about Star Trek is that the series is bigger than any one cast of characters, it is a tapestry of many overlapping stories with a vast diverse array of characters. If you pull Chekhov out of the story it doesn't destroy the overall product, but rather frees up space for other less well known characters to step in and have a chance to shine.

smokebailey

valoreah wrote: »

smokebailey wrote: »

That's what I want....I want the old universe back....not more reboots.

JJTRek isn't really a reboot.

IF it will be all we get on screen from now on, that means it's a reboot.

nickcastleton

i dont want Abrams to touch the franchise again.
I have more faith in pegg due to him actually liking star trek so i will give it a watch but jjs talk of having kirks dad coming back mean regardless of weather i like the third or not if hes involved in the 4th i wont see it.

jonsills

Enough prejudgment based on rumors and personal opinions of executive producers.

Here's a review.​​

gradii

A shame JJ will be directing more ST movies. with someone else directing I might actually be able to get into the Kelvin timeline stuff.

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