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The Lifetime Subscription Sale, advice from buyers requested.
ironmako
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^^^ The title pretty much says it all (I personally hate quippy clickbait btw).
I've been thinking about buying the lifetime sub pack a while, as I know that peridically, STO will drop a sale, and with the new annouincement, i'm seriously thinking about taking the plunge, but I wanted to call on those who have bought it, to give me their opinion, maybe why they bought it, was it worth it, the good points and bad etc. To assist with your opinion, This is a little overview about my playing lifespan/style in STO thus far...
I'm a casual player, but occasionally, when i've got a day to myself, I might do a bit of a marathon sesh. Otherwise, i'll put in maybe a few hours a week, then periodically I'll have a break for a few months. I do this for about 5 years now.
Over time, i've probably dropped about €200 or so into the game (also a bit into Nevewinter as well) so for the playability factor over a number of years, I think that this has been well invested, so will dropping a further 180 clams into STO be a wise investment, factoring such elements as monthly bonuses, immediate reward packs/items etc, titles, excusive area(s) access, playable species, and everything else?
TL;DR - iz da lyftyme pak thingi wurf itz ?
Also a side question on-topic; when you get access to the playable Liberated Borg species, can you alter an existing character species (ie, a level 60 Human Fed to a level 60 Lib Borg Fed, kept inventory, shipyard etc), or do I have to start from scratch (ie, level 1)?
I've been thinking about buying the lifetime sub pack a while, as I know that peridically, STO will drop a sale, and with the new annouincement, i'm seriously thinking about taking the plunge, but I wanted to call on those who have bought it, to give me their opinion, maybe why they bought it, was it worth it, the good points and bad etc. To assist with your opinion, This is a little overview about my playing lifespan/style in STO thus far...
I'm a casual player, but occasionally, when i've got a day to myself, I might do a bit of a marathon sesh. Otherwise, i'll put in maybe a few hours a week, then periodically I'll have a break for a few months. I do this for about 5 years now.
Over time, i've probably dropped about €200 or so into the game (also a bit into Nevewinter as well) so for the playability factor over a number of years, I think that this has been well invested, so will dropping a further 180 clams into STO be a wise investment, factoring such elements as monthly bonuses, immediate reward packs/items etc, titles, excusive area(s) access, playable species, and everything else?
TL;DR - iz da lyftyme pak thingi wurf itz ?
Also a side question on-topic; when you get access to the playable Liberated Borg species, can you alter an existing character species (ie, a level 60 Human Fed to a level 60 Lib Borg Fed, kept inventory, shipyard etc), or do I have to start from scratch (ie, level 1)?
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asking advise from others you will find just as many who will tell you its a waste as those that tell you its good value.
personally I found the package to be well worth the price and that was before they added the T6 ships but then at the time I was playing every chance I had, I also didn't need anyone to advise me, I knew what I wanted and bought it all on my own.
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The other lifer benefits are nice to have, but ultimately it doesn't make much of a difference and most of them can be obtained in some way or the other anyway.
Onlt a few exclusive benefits exist. Beside uniforms, a boff and a pet, I think the ships are the most useful of these with regard to actual gameplay. The ships, especially the Romulan vet ship, looks very nice but there are other nice looking ships in the game so they're not a must have or anything.
You can't alter species.
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5% XP gain has meant I never need to do an extra patrol that I don't want to.
The T6 escorts (Fed, KDF, Rom) look nice and have a Lt. Commander Science science seat. Great for a torp boat -- grav well 1 to clump them up, torp spread to make them go boom.
The Android boff is nice. 1 per character, your choice of male/female and tac, sci, eng. Has Creative to buff powers, and self-resurrection.
The extra respec tokens gained when leveling up are great if you might change your mind on the build for a character later.
I hate to destroy ships I can't reclaim, so extra dry dock slots are nice.
I also used the extra character slots, so that saved me a purchase.
I'll use the space fireworks now and then after a good / fun group queue has completed.
The 500 zen is nice, but that will take 3 years to pay back the cost. It's just icing on the cake.
Okay, maybe regretted it a bit when Atari was in mid-collapse and there was no new content for a year. But other than that, it's been lovely.
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I bought it a year or so after the game's release. It was totally worth it for me for that reason.
In the end you will have decide for yourself. It's 100 % convenient, since you get all the perks of a subscription, and never need to worry about it ever again. But if you stop playing and never come back, it's worthless. If you stop playing for 4 years but then return and the game is still there? You'll sit on a pile of Zen that will assuredly help you get back into the game.
It might seem like a lot of money for a game, and it is. But is it it a lot of money to you? If, say, your laundry machine would break down tomorrow and you'd need a replacement, would that pose a problem to you, especially once you spend the money of the subscription? Then it's maybe too much. if not, so be it.
But only you know how much money it is to you, and how long you expect to play. I would expect that STO has a few years left in it it, so that wouldn't be a big concern for me.
So they don't come around every other month, so there is that to consider.
I got mine about 2 and half years ago. Haven't regretted the purchase. However, I have regretted buying individual ships here and there, but never the LTS.
Plus like Sheldon mentioned, I believed in the product, and have had many enjoyable hours playing. I felt I should show my support.
If you only play an hour every week or two, I wouldn't buy it. Not worth it at that point, but if you're on 3-4 times a week or more, (and think you'll be playing for at least the next year) it might be a good choice for you.
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Decisions like this remind me of the lottery or the stock market- People say "You can't WIN if you don't play." and I say "Yes, but you can't LOSE if you don't play, either." Something to ponder- it's a risk, like any other in life.
On hand, you could have everything you want/need (whatever that may be)
OTOH you could end up with buyer's remorse... with no recourse.
Of course, with any P2W game or MMO you take the same risk if the game folds- no tangible possession to retain, you're simply "renting" it for a period of time, regardless of if you "purchase" an item or not.
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And how many of the perks you think you'll use.
When I got mine a couple of years ago I was already planning to buy a couple of extra character slots and figured I might need the extra respecs for at least one character. I also wanted the account bank and extra inventory + character bank space and the credit cap increase. A T5 token sounded nice too.
That was a good start to covering the cost of the subscription.
If you only play Fed, and/or only play 1 or 2 characters then you probably won't use enough of the LTS benefits unless you do keep playing for 3 years.
Do math on value returned versus buying an equivalent dollar amount of zen DURING A ZEN SALE and then spending it DURING OTHER SALES. Then calculate how long it would take to "return" anything.
If you do decide to buy, do it during the LTS sale as you will get the most value for your money. The veteran rewards are nice to have and eventually, the game pays you $5 a month in Zen whether you actively play or not. You'll make back the money you paid for the LTS and have a small, but steady stream of Zen accumulating on your account each month.
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I'm a relative noob at the game still but from what I've seen of how the game plays and how development happens for STO, this is my take on the sale because I seriously considered it this time around.
Getting a monthly stipend sounds amazing until you realize it takes a year to earn 6000 zen, which is not to say is bad, but methinks it's value has diminished due to how long the game has been out and by the time I need/want an item I just up and buy it. Full disclosure, I've only purchased one variant of the Vesta (while on ship sale,) 10 Master Keys (on sale) and the Eclipse Intel Cruiser. So, without them being on sale that's about 70 bucks (7000 zen) dropped on the game since I started playing a few years ago. I generally have a limit on how much I'll spend on a single game in a year unless I feel I'm getting my value out of it (and the Vesta was the best thing I ever did, just wish I had done the three pack.)
I've only really considered the lifetime sub based on the Zen stipend. To me, besides a liberated borg toon which isn't as interesting to me anymore after having spent so much time with my main, the other benefits don't really lure me in and I'd not really use them. The ships, while still usable, aren't interesting enough to me to warrant the purchase and the ones I've got are strong enough to do anything easily. Even if I played Romulan or Klingon (I've got two characters near max in those factions,) but I'd rather just buy them a T6 ship or a T5U even depending on what I like aesthetically/performance wise.
Seeing as most of the rewards aren't really interesting PERSONALLY (and I've skipped over a few like dil/spaces/etc) I don't see it as worth the 100 dollar investment. A few years ago, maybe, but I know I'm only going to play in spurts and may only spend another 60ish bucks on the game in the next few years so I'd rather control the smaller spending then dump money at it and wait.
I just wait for sales to happen to buy zen or keys/etc then buy what I want, seems to work better for me due to how sporadic I play.
Final thought, I don't feel I enjoy STO on an often enough basis to warrant the purchase but at 100 bucks if you plan on sticking around, it probably wouldn't hurt if you've gotten a lot of time out of the game or see that you're going to.
This...
Advice: DONOT take advice from anyone and make your own mind.
If you want to do see what others think look up the 100 of threads with similar subject. Just hit "search" and you will find out that opinions are basically the same since this was offered at day 1 till now. Good luck!
I got mine back during beta, when the game was expected to be sub based and the lifer deal would eventually lead to big savings if I kept playing, and liberated borg was the icing on the cake. I would not buy one now, because IMHO F2P decreased it's value significantly.
If I get another 3+ years with STO, then I think its well worth it. So hopefully the game will continue soldering on for that time. As for the console cross-over, thanks for the tip, but i'm always going to stay PC